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There is a very good explanation of relationship between Khalsa and Sikh is done by Paramjeet Singh Khalsa Anandpur sahib wale. I will find it and post it. it is in the series of sukhmani sahib khatha. After listening to this my view of Sikh and Khalsa and I can be totally wrong on this :blush2: : Sikh is not a bounded religion but a community religion, believes in humanity and freedom. "Jo mein kiya, So mein paya" | "Dosh kya dije awar jana"| If you do nitname, keep rehat, restrain yourself, keep kesh, accordingly you will reap great spiritual and material rewards. Sikhism gives freedom, openness, well-being and acceptance of all the humanity despite of cast, religion and intelligence as one being. Any person Hindu\Jew\Christian can read, learn and follow SGGS ji, do the seva will attain the param-pad. In Sikh-History many great GurSikhs are not in the fold of khalsa, but are respected lot and even have yaadgari gurudwaras in their name. Bhai Makan Shah Lubana, Bhai Moti Mehra, Bhai Todar Mal and many more. Any Sikh that follow Guru's learning, do simran can become BrahmGyani. But Not Khalsa To become khalsa one has to partake Amrit and follow a conduct that can be broken if you don't follow it: Therefore Khalsa is a bounded religion with specific code of conduct for lifestyle. Khalsa is a commitment not only from our side but from the Guru's side as well. "Jab lag khalsa rahe niyara, Tab lag tej diyo mein sara" Khalsa is an Army to protect the Divine light of Sikhism. Also the Management of Gurudwaras and other sikh religios matters are the responsibilty of khalsa to manage.

Golden Temple - If we can accept this name. So does the Sikh temple I believe. Also "Harmandar har sajaya , Har vasah jis naal"

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I like it ... too of course Along side with Gurudwara .... I will talk to my friends about this.

Sound like naamdharis... Some problems should be left alone to get sorted out. As Huge numbers of Naamdharis are now are a part of mainstream sikhi, because of good sikh prachar and their infighting. Yeah, Thats true...

I had met them they are really nice people, although I truly understand their practices are controversial. I have a question with the sangat here, No hot heads plz : - Is there anyway, this situation can be improved without showing them the door out or insulting them?? Do as a normal Sikh people, how we can offer them so much joy and peace from the maryada itself that they understand and start following it. Remember they are well versed in Gurbani, and has a daily Nitnem of several banis, along with sehaj path. (also their yoga and stuff :blush2: ) Or We just keep on saying to them BLASPHEMY - BLASPHEMY, bycott, infidels, white-insults, paapi - paapi etc.. etc. and in fear they will come to obey maryada. much like Brahmins & Islamist do.

#jesuischarlie First I am too tempting to jump on this discussion, even I had denied myself, but then again who I am to deny or stop. Second, This for savinderpalsingh ji I love you brother, you are such a darling, I hope you are doing good ... just a metaphor for you dear. With your knowledge and spirit you are possessing you are like a Fast, Expensive Car that everybody dreams but with spiked seats. You can give so much to this forum and people surrounding you but you end up bleeding people with your words and that too your own brothers.I hope you understand "Dhol dharam daya ka poot", "Mith Bol-da ji har sajjan swami mora", Don't be a warrior who is seeking war but a peaceful messenger who can protect when needed. Thanks and hope you understand Third, In my view Church is a wrong name for our Gurudwaras is very well proved in above threads, Not sure about temple, And the message that everyone is invited should be given by other means like picture signboards etc.

What this book is about, politics or religion?

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for sharing

No worries veer ji, all is fine, I am not new in this. Although very good thoughts and dedication towards sikh principles and I really appreciate specially the nagar kirtan example.but Veerji, with sad heart I have to say there is no forum in the world where a hindu/jew/christian boy come and get encouraged about sikhi.There is a fine line between Love for Sikhi and Love for my own explanation of Sikhi. We all busy explaining and proving what we think is right. Nobody cares Why. I am an historian and a phycologist and following panthic forums offline and online from around 13 years. Sikh religion is the best religion in the world but sikhs stand nowhere when it comes to rational discussion and phycological thought process. We tend to use explanation of spiritual conduct to put our point in solving the regional issues and if anybody opposes we get agitated. Bhul chuk maaf .. WJKk WJKF.. With Guru Maharaj mehar daas is an Amritdhari singh. But I am not Punjabi and dont want to be either.

No more posts please, End of debate, thanks guys.

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Agree with all of comments above for prachar and sudhar, however I believe I haven't put the question right. Let me put it right What we can do to get out of muslim identity misconception in west. Bhul chuk maaf

I am reading this book, these days. Any views.

Thanks for sharing..

Excellent point of view.. All this is already being done and what about the ppl who dont want to spiritual And how does the problem of sikh identity be resolved? I am not against preaching values but we fail when we fail to learn from others.

Thanks for judging me.. best of luck for ur future. And just an eye opener This is same attitude that we ppl show to all who think different and then hope someday we will be listened by others.

We can start atleast, built a small martial art center and also do we have a high quality game displaying a sikh characters, with so many engineers in community we can run a project for a high quality game atleast, to create awareness. I dont know about you veere savinder pal singh you may be a gr8 sevadaar but I am doing my creative bit for the sikhi for the problems our kids are facing. I am here to discuss ideas Rather then just shallow criticize and comments. To me these things can have immediate effect to lots of ppl.

Gurudwara is always written in Punjabi & English along with veer....But not everybody understand that it is a place of worship and should be held sacred. That is why most gurudwaras have written The Sikh Temple.

Church is a wrong name for our Gurudwaras is well proved after discussion in threads below, And the message that everyone is invited should be given by other means like picture signboards etc. I believe there is every reason for Sikhs to look like Muslims since 1. Gurudwaras are made generally in Mosque Dome design, where it can be build in any shape and size.Designing it in church architecture make it much more inviting to people around. 2. No clear definition and effort made to convey that all are invited inside them. 3. No effort to convey sikhs as Pro-Women, Pro-Environment, Pro-Democracy, Pro-Development people. Tips:- 1. Write in English instead of "The Sikh Temple" write "The Sikh Church", it is far more inviting. 2. Use Mobile gaming culture to spread identity awareness in kids & adults for ex- Popular games like Subway surfers and Temple run can have sikh characters. 3. Run Open-Houses in gurudwaras and sikh homes to invite neibhours. 4. Open Facilities like Free Gymnasiums, Yoga centers in huge gurudwaras for everybody.

I believe we should be mature enough to condemn it peacefully, and give proper response to it in right manner, but Sikh dont do violence until, somebody else is starting it and forcing us to defend ourselves.