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She has a type. ? And don't anyone deny there weren't moments in Fresh Prince where we thought, "Will Smith is acting a little sus here. Is he?..." When he did that campy effeminate voice and limp wrist, even as a kid I knew it was fruity, lmao.

Tupac was gifted as an artist but he was no gangster. Watch his early interviews before he is swallowed by the latter persona, and he's very delicate verging on fruity. These are ultimately creative, introspective types; they aren't gun-toting action heroes despite the bull5hit image they peddle to gullible hangers-on. Do some of these guys toughen up and ultimately get a little involved in some of the darker side of things? Sure, but they cannot go toe to toe with the real hard men who've been in the gang business since the cradle. The film and music industries are peddling a nonsensical image of a particular artist in order to sell a product. A true "gangsta" is not going to get tied down to contracts and be dictated to by fat, rich record executives, lol.

Yes, 100%. As a foreigner with Punjabi roots, we're raised on depictions of white and black gangs that are mythologised in films and music almost as untouchable beings. We seem to think that "our" equivalents are clowns running around in chappals in dusty pinds, but the reality is a lot more sobering. It IS very difficult to explain, because the frames of reference to how they think, operate, and conduct their business is beyond anything that we're familiar with. Even Punjabi gangs in places like Canada walk in the footsteps of what they've seen depicted in the media of their countries, but their native Punjabi equivalents are something else. You don't want to enter that world.

Indians cannot function without figureheads. They cannot think for themselves. They require group consensus on a micro level, and a strong man / woman to inspire them on the macro. Probably goes to explain why they kept getting bent over by invaders, waiting for that hero to emerge to show them the way. Sikhs in particular have a problem with realising that human leaders are flawed. They expect too much in some cases; in other instances they place their hopes into entirely the wrong type of person. Sikhs are simultaneously some of the most ignorant and cunning people around, lol. Total contradiction.

Yeah. I know it'll be pretty much business as usual. Things eventually settle down again for a few decades. I was talking to an older guy I worked with, and he said the 70s and early 80s were very similar to what we're seeing now in terms of divisive politics and cultural issues. While there does seem to be a strange air of finality about some issues currently occurring in the world, I think things will be somewhat ok for most people. As for the utopia... Israel! ?

@Punjabiwolves I suspect there's a handful of Glowies on this forum. They have a bunch of incendiary talking points which are consistently cycled through in order to keep emotions and anger at consistently high levels. It's a very common tactic by intelligence services who lurk on internet forums; basically never allowing a lull in the conversations they want to focus on.

In my teens I would get triggered thinking of Pakistani and Afghan Sikhs, wondering, "Why don't they just move to another country?" Now I'm older I can appreciate how difficult it is to just get up and leave especially if it's not an immediate or direct life and death situation. Not many apne are capable of looking at a degrading society they call home, and extrapolating their existence 20 years into a dark and dangerous future. By all means, WE should be looking to leave the UK considering what's coming especially if you've kids and elders who can still move around a little bit. Americans in the major cities should've started leaving around 2 years ago.

Absolutely disgraceful. There's no apostrophe in "Jatt's in Canada". No need to use it in a possessive sense. ? Musically, it's eerily reminiscent of 1997-era Coolio, so they're about 20 years behind current music tastes and styles, which for Indians isn't surprising. I really wish young Jatts watching this would laugh and tune it out as Canadian-Sikh cringe, and not something to aspire to. I hope so.

Hate to even think this, but a terrorist attack at Nankana Sahib is an inevitability at this point.

It's been plastered on Screwfix's website for a few days, lol. I didn't know it was happening until a couple of days ago.

This needs to be discussed a lot more than it currently is. The large majority of people in the pinds from this generation and earlier (and maybe as "recently" as the 70s) may have identified as Sikhs yet they still carried on with Hindu ceremonies and cultural practices. It was very commonplace yet you wouldn't know or think this if you listen to Sikh parchaar and discourse in Gurdwaras. They give the impression Sikhi has been one long uninterrupted line of adherence beginning from 1469 to today. I would argue it was only with the lehars of the late 70s and 80s where the Sikh identity was magnified for obvious reasons, did this "dipping toes in both waters" begin to recede or at least go underground, although I'd argue in the past ten years our people over there have started to openly revert to Hindu cultural practices once again under the guise of non-descript Punjabi-ism. It's a very interesting conversation. How long can a religion such as ours (with an obviously floundering birthrate and adherence levels, terrible political leadership, and ignorant and unrelatable religious hierarchy) with a heavily interdependent shared mythology with the original "brand", resist a gradual reabsorption into the main branch? It'll take some doing to resist.

Good Lord. ?

We need to produce normal, grounded, relatable leaders and role models with integrity and knowledge of how things truly work. Celebrities and, even the other extreme, hardcore brahmgyanis locked away in their religious compounds with little understanding of what life is like for the average person, are just no help to anyone.

What's the ideological "leaning" of AAP if you had to describe it according to Left vs Right in Anglo nations? Congress is currently - I suppose - what Labour in the UK / Democrats in the U.S. are globalist, Islamo-appeasing, neo-liberals, while BJP are Conservatives / "India First" Republicans? Or do those labels not apply to the sabji that is Punjabi politics, lmao?

What a gandhu.

When the United States sent Ukraine military aid and support, they didn't send them bandages, Dettol, and a shoulder to cry on. You realise American and British special forces are most likely tearing up Russian forces over there? The wind didn't just change, and a useless little country like Ukraine started to stem the Russian tide. Why'd do you think there's a selective media dampening of coverage? When the Yanks and British hand Ukraine victory, then the Western propaganda will start up again about the resilient Ukrainian fightback against the Russian Goliath. Sikh's craving saviours is why we're going to disappear.

If these same armed guys were flying Khalistani flags and shouting Sikh slogans, there'd be commandos swooping in from helicopters to take them out, lol. Instead, because they're fighting over drugs and other nonsense, the State wants to watch the tamasha so they kill each other off. Less potential reformed Sikhs to develop a conscience.

On the bright side, perhaps these armed Jatt soorme will be the only thing that stands in the way of Muslims when they begin to show their hand in Punjabi pinds. ??

Yes, I read on this subject extensively a couple of years ago. Really opened my eyes to a lot of things. It's a cold, cold world. Injustice and justice is irrelevant. Those who act get things done. But you need resources, a vision, and cohesion where it matters. We are severely deficient in all three, and the latter two attributes can't be taught or bought. Our general 5hitty, small-mindedness and lack of imagination is a cancer for us. False hope is also a fatal flaw. It's actually worse than doing nothing.

I think the government gives "contracts" to gangs and their leaders to do their dirty work for them, i.e. eliminate political opponents, so they can attribute these murders and incidents as personal / business issues without the State having to get their own hands dirty. I think they called it "buffers" in the Godfather, lol. It's what the likes of the CIA did during the the latter half of the previous century in terms of taking out prominent black leaders via the target's rival whom the CIA would hire for huge sums of money, and then the press would blame the murders on personal vendettas to prevent the finger being pointed to official State involvement, etc.

Almost no point in withdrawing those 4 men from the Jathedar when others have considerably more personnel assigned to them. Does seem very petty. Question is why is Bhagwant butting heads with the jathedar? Could this all (including the Moosewala death) be an elaborate "false-flag" by Congress to weasel their way back into Punjabi-Sikh affections, and eventually the state itself?

Our "masters" aren't even pretending to keep their maanta of evil beings and forces undercover anymore. It's being celebrated in the open.

So I was reading the report on Moosewala's murder, and it mentions that AAP temporarily removed state security of key Punjabi personalities (reassigning personnel for the Bluestar commemorations) including Moosewala and the Akal Takhat Jathedar (among others). Was this "call to arms" by the jathedar an emotional and petulant lashing out because he had his security detail reassigned for a few weeks? Genuine question, I have no axe to grind in this situation.