MisterrSingh

As Sikhs of the Guru - wherever you happen to be on the spectrum - we should never have blindspots where all reason and impartiality desert us, I.E. heart overruling the head. That's how you end up in serious trouble. Treat everyone with a similar touch, or in my case, guilty until proven innocent, lol.

The above is all systematic of the Regressive Left. That kind of myopic, selective activism is why you're getting a LOT of people who traditionally identified as socialist / liberal find themselves in an ideological quandary, because they don't agree with the moral cowardice being on display in regards to certain voices speaking out in support of certain issues yet remaining suspiciously tight-lipped about other equally valid and immediate problems. That tells us all we need to know about the character of these people. Although, it is amusing to see Right-leaning predominantly white males huffing and puffing about whites being oppressed. Lol, I think we're quite a few centuries away from that ever happening. They're more likely to be bred out of existence than ever be "oppressed" as they seem to think they are. They do have valid points, but most of them are closet racists. Both sides pretend as if their excrement radiates an aroma of scented flowers, but it doesn't. They allowed their governments - consisting of majority whites - to get them into this mess, so they should bang down the doors of these same white elites and demand they sort it out. No, it's easier to target the lowly immigrant than it is to get close to the government official who swans around thanks to taxpayers. They're all lost and confused as far as I'm concerned.

Many, many goreh are waking up to the tricks and lies peddled by those who share Gundal's ideological beliefs. A while ago I'd have been concerned about the impact on us, but now I'm quite content in the knowledge the swing the other way has begun in earnest. Still, vigilancy is the keyword.

That's probably the last thought on her mind whilst her mum and dad are beating the crap out of her. Depending on her mindset, when someone as young as that experiences something along the lines of what's happening to her, it's a huge knock against their sharda and general beliefs. I hope, when she's out of immediate danger and things have calmed down, she doesn't blame Sikhi for the actions of her family. I'm not saying parents shouldn't discipline their children or punish them when they make mistakes of a serious nature, but a concerted and prolonged period of abuse is not how it should be done.

The archetypal Asian beta cuck. Flip me, some of the stuff circulating in that head of his must be terrifying to behold.

From my experience, some of these are as lost, or moreso, than the types they consider to be beneath them. It's just that on the surface they seem like the idealised representation of what a Sikh should be. Again, it's this propensity to view Sikhi as some kind of social club; it's not! All the heavy lifting has to be done on an individual basis. Yes, draw inspiration from others, but once you start using it as a crutch, you'll get nowhere. It's just substituting one kind of social setting for another; albeit one that, at first glance, appears less destructive, but scratch the surface and you'll realise that just because these religious individuals aren't consumed by the need to consume alcohol and other intoxicants, that doesn't mean they aren't riddled with arguably more destructive vices that the naked eye can detect.

The reactions from yesterday have nothing, or very little, to do with Gursikhi, or being raised in a religious environment, etc. It's to do with discipline; something that applies to all human beings regardless of race, religion and their level of adherence. You're avoiding the central issue (your lack of self control and flimsy mental resilience) and twisting the issue to make it seem like a religious issue between practising and non-practicising Sikhs. That's completely disingenuous and false. You've proven yourself unworthy of the kindness and support offered by the people (not me) who were with you during those 30 days. You wasted their time and now that you've fallen into bad habits again, it's suddenly THEIR fault when they express their disappointment? Again, don't make this into a religious issue because it isn't. If you don't believe me, approach a white, atheist, disciplined non-drinker with their head screwed on correctly and you'll get pretty much the same reaction. Where does that leave your theory about practising Sikhs pushing others away? I'm done with this thread.

I think they're deliberately leading him down a dark path so that he frigs up his life. He needs to toughen up before it's too late. He's proven he can't change his ways with the softly-softly, supportive, conciliatory approach that many of his brothers and sisters on this site offered him, so the next and only approach for someone like that is to get harsh and get real.

Take up a hobby, a past-time, an individual sport to occupy his mind. Wean him off his dependency on the excessive company of others in an environment that's detrimental to his life goals and objectives. It really isn't that difficult, bhenji, and someone of his apparent level of education shouldn't really have to ask these questions. Loneliness is a state of mind. Nothing more. BTW, frequenting pubs for someone who is actively seeking to give up alcohol is as ludicrous as a pyromaniac (someone who has a compulsion to start fires) loitering around a factory that manufactures matches. It's a recipe for disaster. At this moment in time, OP is relatively young and his health is intact. A few more years and that won't be the case, and he'll go from being a young buck living the life to a sad has-been scrambling around for a drink and a quick fix. Ironically, the cousins and friends he practically lives for will all have settled down by then and be playing happy families as if their 5hit never stank, yet OP will be saddled with various addictions and afflictions, wondering where it all went wrong, giving his mother cause for unnecessary grief. It's a tale that's as old as the hills in Punjabi circles, yet nobody learns. Oh well, the first liver scare or drug-induced heart attack may shake him out of his apathy.

Your life revolves too heavily around socialising. Getting out and about and meeting people is essential, but even some goreh who shun the vices of alcohol aren't couped up inside; they just ensure their circle of friends - or in your case, your extended family - are the kind of people that are conducive to the kind of clean-living lifestyle they wish to lead. If they don't respect that, then you cut them out of your life. Yes, you read that right. When others only think of what's best for themselves and their lives, why are you so afraid of causing offense? The way I see it is that you want to break free from destructive habits, but you don't have the courage to speak up against those who lead you by the hand to the very environment you shouldn't be frequenting when you're trying to make such a huge lifestyle change, at least not at this early stage of trying to turn things around. Also, the bibiya on this site congratulating you for failure are not the voices you need to listen to. There is nothing honourable in failure. Encouragement is vital, but it's clear as day your will to resist those temptations, that are destroying your life, is as fragile as a frayed thread. A cousin gives you a call and you run off to his side like an attention-starved puppy. You have to draw a line in the sand and decide how you want to exist. There is no honour in trying and failing each time. Blogs, etc, are a waste of time if the advice being given is discarded at a moment's notice during a time of weakness. Those of you coddling him and throwing around abstract religious concepts need to have a word with yourself. Now is not the time for such things when he can't even resist a drink. Time to grow up.

That's messed up the cops were involved. The media needs to hammer bent coppers as much as they do the brown people that do this kind of filth.

The youth are ensnared from a young age, indoctrinated and divided, befuddled into jathedari, and then sent on their way before they're even out of their teens. A quick glance at some of the discussions on this site show us the state of the youth today. Matters of personal and food hygiene are considered unimportant and non-spiritual verging on the blasphemous; that's just one example from the past couple of days.

I wish I had the time to locate a post I made on the myths of Sufi Islam from a few months back, but I don't. In summary, here's what it covered. I saved a quote in a notepad file but neglected to note the source: This wishful thinking on the part of non-Islamic Sufi sympathisers is weak-willed sycophancy. Why defend something that, if the tables were turned, would never be reciprocated? I understand about seeing God in everything and everyone, but some take it to unpalatable extremes at the expense of common sense and the truth that's staring them right in the eyes.

I've had a few experiences throughout my life that have put me off our lot for good (I'm not prepared to spend my entire life giving people the benefit of the doubt and hoping people prove me wrong; I'm not old, but I'm also not young enough to waste my life in the pursuit of such fruitless endeavours). I prefer the company of goreh to Asians without a shadow of a doubt. You're going to get duplicity, politics, manoeuvering, etc., in all types of workplaces - and goreh aren't immune to playing those games to get ahead much like the rest of the world - but on a one-to-one basis, goreh with their heads screwed on right judge you on the strength of your character and your deeds. Our lot have a laundry list of pre-requirements and requirements they need fulfilled before they give you the time of day, and then, even if you do measure up, there's our propensity to stick the knife in when the back is turned. These are traits that are shared by the alcohol-consuming, cigarette-smoking, party-going Punjabi as well as the gatra-wearing, apparently pious Amritdhari. It's ingrained on a psychological level to such an extent that it has to be cellular. That's why I really don't believe we have a bright future; that's not pessimism (although it may seem that way). Overcoming that "programming" requires a hell of a strong and concerted process of de-programming, yet when do any of us see our lot even acknowledging there's a problem to begin with? YET, I'm not going around shining the goreh's shoes and saying only what he wants to hear. If he's being a twit, I'll make sure he knows about it. I'm not less of a human being due to my Asian heritage, and Mr. White Man is not my automatic better just because he's white. If you're riddled with insecurity and inferiority, you WILL radiate it to others, and it WILL be used against you. If you're confident in your own skin and know enough about yourself as a person and as a collective (i.e. your heritage, your religion) those aspects also shine through.

Lmao, it sounded so life-affirming and motivational.

The kind of spiritual people who follow a Rehat, of which one of the key constituents is arising at dawn for a full-body wash before settling down to meditate. Those kind of spiritual people ? It's a good initiative in my opinion. The places I was referring to have been awarded nothing less than the top rating in the few years I've been aware of such a system being in place. I occasionally have reason to go into the kitchen of one of the Gurdwareh, and it genuinely is pristine, despite it being a small, local Gurdwara.

There are too many competing forces - individually and collectively - in opposition to each other for any concerted action to have a positive affect. I've seen very little to suggest there will ever be a reverse of trends to arrest the decline, not on the level that's needed at least. Pockets of decency here and there are good and much needed, but I believe they are too little to have the kind of wide-ranging impact that's required. But, as the old saying goes, nobody has seen God's abode, so if He desires it, the situation may turn around in an instant. I'm not saying we should cede all responsibility for change and hope it magics itself into being BTW. I do think we've yet to reach rock bottom; when that happens the only way is upwards, lol

Sounds like a great idea for a thriller, lol.

The Punjabi trait for selling out our own for personal interests AND a complete lack of forethought and patience to play the long game, means we are incapable of even beginning to approach the British way of doing things. Plus, the time for such actions are about 200-300 years too late. We might've managed to make inroads when the world was in a pre-industrial state; now, we'd just be scrambling around in the dust trying to play the big boys at their own game, humiliating ourselves in the process. That's not even taking into account the psychological damage that's been done to us on a collective basis by fraudulent - and in some cases, short-sighted, ego-ridden - religious figures who've diluted the Sikh faith, as well as fracturing our already flimsy sense of unity. The cherry on top is Punjabi mass economic migration whereby future generations of Punjabis are flocking to the West (in terms of civilisation; I'm aware of the migration to Oceania). I'd love to travel 500 years into the future and see what becomes of us as a people. It'd be utterly fascinating to see how the dominoes that are falling at this moment will impact things many decades into the future.

Issues of piousness and spirituality aside (i.e. behaving in a manner that could be described as 'godly', i.e. beyond reproach even in the face of provocation), would we do any different if our homeland was encircled by aggressive states wishing our destruction? Of course, I don't fully believe the Western hype about those "evil Muslims" wanting to annihilate Israel at the first opportunity, but there's definitely a heck of a lot of resentment based on their very existence. The Israeli's don't help matters at all, and it is quite disturbing to see how they've got the United States on a leash in so many varied and interesting ways, lol, but aside from dismantling their entire country and giving it back to those who claim it belongs to them, what should they do but defend themselves?

My word, that's shocking. I thought maybe he'd have been fished out as soon as he fell in, but that's horrible. Is there a chance of his skin returning to normal the older he gets, or is that impossible? Kids shouldn't be messing around in langar kitchens. Some parents seem to relinquish all responsibility for their children when they're at the Gurdwara, as if nothing can go wrong.

Me neither, until I received a notification that Mr. Quantavius had replied to my post from a few weeks ago. It's as if it was only yesterday, lol. We're still no closer to obtaining an answer to the one question he just doesn't feel like answering.

The original thread of discussion had ran its course, so naturally the talk drifted to other areas. It's all inter-related, anyway... I think.

How's about answering that question I asked you a few weeks ago instead of trying to fish for information on my life away from this forum, lol? You keep baiting but I'm not going to bite; I'm not 12 years old, lol.