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January 16, 2016

They already do this, lions mma is one example.

Why kash gill ? Just because he's Indian ? Sikhs should try and learn from the best teachers available. This is why Maharajah Ranjit Singh hired European generals and had various ethnic races in his army . he didn't exclusively use Sikhs.

Did i say sikhs shojkd learn from kash gill cause he is indian

Kash gill comes from a sikh background so good gym to start with when gurdwaras partner with combat gyms

an is a three time world kick boxing champ an was top ten pound for pound fighters thays why it would be good for.gurdwaras to partner with his gym

An damn right sikhs should learn from the best regardless of there religous national background

January 16, 2016

Wats ur obsession with muslims and tapping up r girls? Also who told u so many r in MMA? Alot of sikhs r in it too. U opened so many of these bloody topics, its gettin annoying.

Not obsession but it has bin an issue since the 80's of sikh girls being sexually attacked by muslims

In the forum if you read the comments many muslims are taking up combat training at a young age an there are three times as many muslims in uk

More sikhs need to put there kids in combat training

January 15, 2016

If so many muslims are boxing an mma at young age

Then is that not bad news for sikh youth especially girls who will be targeted by muslim boys

January 15, 2016

In a democracy it is up to the people the pressure from the bottom to change politics

People have to mobolize in punjab pick three issues come together an march an demand politicians from each party to meet there demands.rather then accept empty promises

January 14, 2016

K tell us the whole story then?

January 13, 2016

If muslims are putting there children into boxing mma an muay thai in heavy numbers what does that mean for sikh children who target sikh girls

Sikh gurdwaras need to partner with kash gill an other boxing muay thai an mma gyms an find ways to encourage sikhs to put there children into these gyms

January 13, 2016

Did I not say earlier that there were exceptions? The Tamil tigers may be Hindu, but they are a nationalist movement, not a religious one. They are animated by a fierce ethnic pride.

The Gurkhas were never renowned as particularly great soldiers until the advent of the British Raj and its Martial Race Theory. This theory was never simply about which people were the best fighters, but mainly concerned with the question of which groups could be expected to be most loyal to the British Crown and the least likely to rebel (the Sikhs, unfortunately, were considered among this number). In other words, the Gurkha legend was created by the British, the Englishman made the Gurkha, massaged their egos to the point that the Gurkhas felt indebted to them for it - they began to feel an intense loyalty towards the Brits. A loyalty which persists even to this very day. Gurkhas are still recruited into the British army. This was why they were so highly regarded, this and the fact that they were non-Indians who would have no qualms about turning their rifles against the people of Hindustan. The soldiers who fired upon the crowd at Jallianwala Bagh? Gurkhas.

I don't understand the need for the question about Punjabi Muslims. I addressed this in my first post.

Muslim punjabis ancestors were coward hindus who were coverted to islam by sword

Punjabi hindus ancestors didnt convert

Punjabi sikh ancestors laid a smack down on the turk mughals an pashtun afghans

January 13, 2016

When it comes to representing India on an international stage, the answer to this is very easy.

The best athletes don't done the nations flag. Instead, relatives of powerful people and people of high hindu castes represent the country in international sporting events.

I visited my pind a couple of years ago and was absolutely stunned at the skill level of some of the young kids in the game of soccer (as some of you folks call it -- football). You're telling me a country of 1 billion people can't put together 20 elite soccer players? If India actually put the 20 best soccer players in the country with proper coaching, we'd be top 5 in the FIFA rankings with the likes of Germany, Spain, Brazil.

Many other countries have more corruption an poverty an yet do well in football

An why does this corruption only effect football an not cricket were india is very competative

Its a cultural problem

If football was popular as cricket then yeah india would do awesome but again its cultural issues were popularity if cricket makes ppl forget other sports

January 13, 2016

Not rss they tend to come from mixed sikh an hindu families

Sainis are famous for marrying hindu sainis with sikh sainis in arranged marriages for two hundred years

Look at how many sikh girls date muslims

Props lot of sikh girls can learn from her

January 11, 2016

So the random people trying to hit that guy were only allowed to throw punches.. Would have been a completely different story if knees, leg kicks , groin strikes were allowed. Also picking random unskilked bums off the street is one thing, try this against skilled person and see what happens.

The video is to show how to apply head movement an foot movement when facing punches

Question is why are shaster vidya students an teachers to scared to do the same

Allow random people with boxing gloves to attack them with punches an see how well there head movement an foot work works in a real situation

Problem is most martial arts schools wont test there theories there to scared to

An there are simple safe way to test them

Most martial arts schools teach choreography martial arts like this

We dont get to see if these things work in a unpredictable situation

With boxing muay thai an mma thy can test an ppl can see how there skills work in an unpredictable event when they have no idea what the other person is going to throw at them like this

Ive emailed ppl at shaster vidya to put up videos of this art being tested like how this guy demonstrates head movement but there to scared to

They choose to teach choreography martial arts like this

Ive seen a dozen street fights an there are thousands up loaded as well on youtube liveleak hiphopstar an list goes on

But you see very little traditional martial arts ever used but there are some things from each martial art that can be picked up applied but right now top combat system with out weapions is muay thai an mma which brings together boxing muay thai wrestling an ji jitsu an lil parts from other martial arts that can actually work

Videos of boxing in street fights working

Can you provide any evidence that martial arts like shaster vidya an other martial arts you suggest work better then mma boxing an muay thai when put to the test??

An most muay thai boxing an mma gyms also train in street self defence for situations were it is anything goes

When it comes to street fights with no weapions you want to make your hands arms an legs weapons so you can break there legs with strikes to the legs or body or any part of the head or neck an avoid getting hit by your opponents

Choreography martial arts like shaster vidya you know what the other person is going to throw at you in a safe situation

they dont teach or show how to handle an unpredictable situation when you dont know what your opponent is going to throw at you while under stress

In mma boxing muay thai you get to train in unpredictable situations under pressure

Were u dont know how your opponent will attack you

January 10, 2016

Of all the faults of Punjabi culture, is it really anymore sexist than any other culture?

Well islamic culture is the worst but as sikhs it is every sikhs duty to stand up for equality

Sikh is about fighting for people who are mistreated

January 10, 2016

You can still learn combat arts regardless of if you have a beard and kesh. Boxing is great for striking but does not allow usage of the majority of effective strikes because it is a sport orientated art not a combat art.

I'm talking about elbow strikes, eye gouging, groin strikes, back of the head strikes, kidney punches, small joint manipulation I.e: finger breaks, strangulation, joint breaks. Etc etc.

Techniques using the above are the base and core concepts of true combat arts.

There's no point training for sport, if you ever get attacked in the street you attacker will not be following any rules... More than likely there will more than one attacker, most sport arts simply do not cater for how to defend against multiple attackers.

I've said it many times find an art form and teacher that will teach you street effective combat forms with drills for real life situations.

One prime example is the Sikh dentist attacked in mould Wales, by a white supremacist nazi supporter in a supermarket he was attacked with a large blade and a hammer, this is reality, this is up what you can find yourself up against in the streets. Boxing alone or even mma will not help you , you need to learn effective use of weaponary and defence against attackers carrying weapons .

Street fighting israeli street fighting krav maga an russian street dighting martial arts are the best when it comes to weapions an boxing an muay thai tends to be the best for fist fights

That shaster vidya stuff is a joke an is a

Choreography martial art with just untested theories

lot of those shaster vidya guys are pretty unfit compared to boxers

Shaster vidya is a waste of time cause its unproven theories that havnt bin tested to see if they work in a real life situation

That is why shaster vidya is lije most martial arts which are choreograohy martial arts

In a sparring session or real fight with trained boxer or muay thai fighter a person with shaster vidya bacjground is going to get hurt

Why shaster vidya is a joke is shown in this video an why it is just a choreography martial art is shown perfectly here

Now muay thai boxing you get to see if it works or not in real life situations cause you can actually test it

i would love see a video were shaster vidya students put there footwork an misalignment strategies.to a test by allowing random people to try hitting them like in this video

an sadly chances are shaster vidya students will just set them selves to get knocked out

January 10, 2016

Dhaliwal married a white man, I don't know if that is indicative?

Anita Rai is interesting in that she seems to have slowly but steadily moved away from her roots to become someone who is another 'angry Sikh bird' these days. The last (very recent) article I read from her didn't really portray her parents too well - the same old implied stereotype of being oppressive and stuff. What's strange is that I saw her with her parents in another program years ago and they seemed to be really cool with each other. I think goray, subtly and purposefully groom or brainwash apneean, once they get them isolated in their social circles (usually via a job) to heighten their sense of oppression and a negative perception of their own people myself?

Which article was this in

Ive seen her speak with respect to her parents she has bashed punjabi culture an sexism in punjabi cture but has bin proud of her sikh roots for equal rights an fighting for gender rights hundreds of years before the europeans

January 9, 2016

That's the crux of the issue right there. As well as being the reason why we have a dearth of boxers/MMA fighters to our community's name, it's also why we have no poets, no writers, no journalists, no artists, no actors and no sportsmen. Sikh parents are consumed with money, and the way to guarantee that their kids have money is by forcing them to play it safe and study engineering rather than allowing them to take a risk by following their dreams of boxing fame. They're not risk takers - but taking risks is how a people grow.

An sikhs on average have the same education rate as the english yet the english still box kick box play rugby an football

January 9, 2016

Not really.

Hindu Punjabis, Muslim Punjabis and Sikh Punjabis are physically very similar, but the Hindus (Punjabi and otherwise) were always considered to be conspicuously ill-suited to war. Not because they were necessarily physically weaker, but because they were cravens. The Sikh religion and the history of our faith were what made the Sikhs of old some of the best fighters in the Indian subcontinent. In the heat of battle, the Sikh soldier could invoke the militancy of his faith and tales of shaheeds and warriors beyond counting to find his bravery. It's simply the case that certain religions compliment the art of soldiery better than others - Islam being another example. What does the Hindu itihaas have that can compare to our own, that can inspire zeal? The paragons of Sikh history are men like Baba Deep Singh, Maharaja Ranjit Singh and Banda Singh Bahadur - noble warriors all. The heroes of the Hindu world are idols of weakness, like Gandhi. How much valour could the Hindu saga of defeat after submission after defeat inspire in the average Hindu soldier?

This isn't to say Hindus are incapable of being great warriors. But it is inconceivable to me that their religion could ever be the source of their strength, as is the case with the average Sikh sipahi.

How did the ancestors of punjabi muslims get converted to islam?

What about gorkhas from insdia an nepal or marathas or tamil tigers

January 9, 2016

You could always directly contact the web master of the shastar Vidiya sheds sites, Nihang Teja Singh and ask him to confirm the authenticity and content of the letter. It could well be a doctored, edited version .

If the RSS portion is legit, then it looks like Nidar Singh has clearly lost the plot, using a Hindu right wing fascist racist organisation to help you such as the RSS which has openly stated that it seeks to turn India into a solely Hindu state is insane...

I still however maintain, that Gatka is a complete utter waste of time, and cannot be classified as a combat art. It is a dance act for performing circus clowns.. There are plenty of better arts to learn..

An shaster vidya is a joke as well an a complete waste of time

January 9, 2016

Sikhs are suppose to be warrior people

To be good warrior soldiers you have to be good athletes an fighters

January 9, 2016

Cause in the sports blogs south asians are laughed for a pathetic sports an olympics records were poor corrupt countries with less then five million ppl can win more medals then infia pakistan bangledesh combined with is almost two billion people

Nature in sports is genetics

Nurture in sports is diet an training

December 22, 2015

Addressing social issues depression an loneliness an giving people a sense of belonging an purpose is some of the ways

Thats how mormons an christian church's an cults get people

December 21, 2015

For me i think it is mans search for meaning by viktor frankl

Many lessons in that book that you find in the guru granth sahib an sikh philosophy

December 21, 2015

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GARY THANDIS COLUMN: You deserve better

What are we doing wrong in that we arent reaching South Asian families?

BY GARY THANDI

SO in the 15 years I have worked in the social services system, one thing I hear about as it relates to the South Asian community is they dont want to come out and get counselling. Often such a comment comes from social service workers who themselves belong to the South Asian community and thus unintentionally reinforce this belief.

Of the South Asians that have come out for social services, many have been referred by other organizations such as the Ministry for Children and Families or BC Community Corrections (probation) who may impose sanctions on a client who fails to attend for a service such as counselling. Or perhaps South Asians struggling with addiction and mental health will end up in the hospital emergency room because things spiraled out of control for them. The unfortunate part of this process is that often a situation got pretty bad before it ever got to the attention of such authorities or services meaning opportunities were likely missed to help these South Asian men, women and children earlier.

Its an observation that South Asians dont come out for counselling that many accept outright. Its probably one of the reasons why South Asians do not get the linguistic and culturally responsive services that come anywhere near what their population needs and merits based on its size. For example, 1/3 of Surreys population is South Asian, but social services that meet their cultural and linguistic needs come nowhere near that number perhaps thats why so many end up coming to the attention of the Ministry for Children and Families, BC Corrections or the hospital because opportunities for earlier intervention and support were simply not there. Its ultimately convenient not to focus on this population simply because they are not as vocal about the need, nor is there much concerted effort to determine that need and try to meet it. After all, mainstream services are plenty busy and understandably arent trying too hard to find more work to add to their loads.

Something needs to change South Asian communities deserve better. For a start, we need to stop perpetuating what I consider is an inaccurate observation they dont come out and get counselling- and instead start saying What are we doing wrong in that we arent reaching South Asian families?

Evidence suggests South Asians often seek out their doctor when struggling with an emotional health issue. Ive also spoken to many teachers who say South Asian immigrant parents often talk to them about their struggles too. So they are in fact talking about their struggles why then arent we doing outreach and providing services wherever possible at those locations? Many South Asians go to places of worship or visit the library again more places to provide outreach (for example, hosting a table with various information on subjects such as mental health or addiction). Many will first speak to friends or family. So why are we not training community champions who can learn more about various social issues and can help their loved ones who may be struggling?

Im not saying some of these havent been done before however, in almost every instance the programs are temporary however such outreach needs to be consistent and long-term. Plus, we continue to have an outdated approach of Monday to Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. outpatient services that only a tiny fraction of any population (including the mainstream) that needs it is actually accessing.

So we continue to operate in ways that has little value to South Asian families who are struggling with a social-emotional health issue, and we then blame these very same families for when their problems become so bad it becomes a medical or criminal justice matter. Again, I suppose thats easier blame the families for what they are doing wrong rather than to take a serious inventory of what the social services are doing wrong and make efforts to change it.

Some may argue Why should we change for a specific population? Id argue that whats good for South Asians is good for everyone else! By that I mean the system really, as Ive alluded to earlier, isnt working great for anyone and that by making it more responsive to South Asians we ultimately make it more responsive to all populations. (I would also argue another point for those who say why change for a specific population- that South Asians pay their taxes just like everyone else, and therefore deserve a fair share of appropriate services like everyone else!)

Of course its easier to maintain the status quo, and continue to blame South Asians for their unwillingness to get help, than to take on a massive and bureaucratic social service system and push for change. Ultimately its up to us if we want to keep playing into that stereotype or if we want something better. I think we deserve better.

Gary Thandi, MSW RSW, Doctor of Education candidate, is a Special Columnist with The VOICE. He writes about emotional wellness and social justice issues as they relate to South Asian communities. He is also head of Moving Forward Family Services that provides counselling and support services to anyone who wants it without any waits. No one, regardless of their financial circumstances, will be turned away. Services are offered in English, Punjabi, Hindi, Urdu, Cantonese, Farsi, Japanese, Mandarin, Russian and Vietnamese. To access services, call or text 778-321-3054 or email him at counsellor@movingforwardfamilyservices.com.

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December 20, 2015 - 9:57 am

Good morning,

Many thanks for bringing light to this! #sicknotcrazy #sicknotweak #invisibleillness #stigmakills #weareallequal

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