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I think you are correct. I am looking at other maps than I did before of the Delhi Sultanate and I think you are right. Thanks for helping me. Guru Ji saw that Malik Bhago was exploiting the labor of Bhai Lalo. I wanted to know which country this occured in so I could study its economy and see how such exploitation may fit into modern-day economics.

I'm sure most of you know the story of Bhai Lalo and living by honest means. I am trying to figure out which historical country it all occurred in, because I want to study the economy there (since Guru Nanak ji identified that Malik Bhago exploited Bhai Lalo's labour). This event occurred in Guruji's first udhasi, so it occurred between 1500-1506 in Saidpur (modern-day Eminabad, Pakistan). It couldn't have been part of the Mughal Empire since that didn't exist until ~20 years later. Can any of you figure out which historical country this took place in, because I'm lost?

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That's why I support Gary Johnson from the Libertarian Party.

Good advice. This file is clean though, just ask those that have taken it. Great! Thanks!

Thanks for the heads up. It seems I have fixed that now. Let me know about any future problems. By the way, the link in the title for whatever reason isn't cooperating, but the one in the text works fine.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Hi, I'm Bhagat Singh. Using Google Forms, I have created a poll to obtain data on the political affiliations and favorite political candidates of Sikhs living in the United States. This data is for my own personal research due to my curiosity, and I would love to share it with you as well. Studying politics is a big pastime of mine, and so I am quite curious on the direction my fellow American Sikhs would like to see the country going. I have brought up American politics twice on this forum already, but this time I ask you to please (if you don't mind) take my short, three-question poll. Once you take the poll, there is a link that leads you to a summary of the data thus far, so you can see the responses right away. This poll will be closing on 7/20/16, and I will then post the results into this post. Thank you in advance for voting in my poll! Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18h2VZZ0dyt81igkQL9obspe-toslQhDhFzh0eJny2gY

But how can a droplet of water merged into the ocean be viewed as any different than any other portion of water in it? How can one portion of water be Nanak and another portion be Ravidas. It's all Waheguru, without lines or distinctions, purely one, right?

Ok thanks! It makes sense now.

But why do we not worship Bhagat Kabir, Bhagat Ramanand, or Sheikh Farid Ji. They were both merged with God and they taught gurmat principles. What makes our gurus distinguished enough to be worshipped?

Why do we worship the gurus? I know some don't worship the gurus, but many puraatan singhs do and have told me its the way the gurus set. Why?? I thought the guru was the means of liberation, not the end.

According to the rehatnama of Bhai Daya Singh (http://sarbattkhalsa.weebly.com/bhai-daya-singh-ji-rehatnama.html): ਸੋ ਅਕਾਲੀ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ ਨੀਲ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਹਿਰਾਇ Thus is the Akaalis form, he wears blue clothes. ਜਪੇ ਜਾਪ ਗੁਰਬਰ ਅਕਾਲ ਸਰਬਲੋਹ ਪਹਿਰਾਇ | Contemplating the Gurbar Akaal, keeping of iron weapons. ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਕਰਦ ਛੱਲਾਦਿ He keeps all iron chakars (discs) and karads (daggers) ਬੀਧੇ ਕਾਨ ਨਾ ਨਾਕ ਕੋ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮ੍ਰਿਜਾਦ | Do not pierce the ears or nose, this is the Satgurus wish ਪੰਜ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਰ ਦੇਹ ਪੈ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨ ਗਾਤਰੇ ਰਾਖ Wearing 5 weapons on the body, keeping a sword in the gatra. ਕਰਦ ਭੇਟ ਬਿਨ ਪਾਨ ਨਹ‌ਿ ਅਕਾਲ ਭਾਵ ਸਤ ਭਾਖ | Without the dagger touching the food, he does not eat, he contemplates Akaal (the immortal) or Sat (the truth). ਸੁਰ੍ਮਾਦਿਕ ਸ਼ਿੰਗਾਰ ਨਹ‌ਿ ਨਹ‌ਿ ਪਰ ਤਰੁਨੀ ਸੰਗ All forms of makeup and the relationship with anothers wife, he forsakes. ਯਥਾਰਥ ਇਸਤਰੀ ਤ੍ਯਾਗ ਨਹ‌ਿੰ ਗੁਰ੍ਕੋ ਧਿਆਨ ਅਭੰਗ | He does not forsake woman altogether (his own wife), always remaining focused on the Guru. ਪਾਤਰ ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਕੇ ਭੁਗਤੇ ਅਸਨ ਸੁਆਦ In dishes of all iron he should eat with pleasure. ਲੱਕੜੀ ਕੋ ਭੋਜਨ ਭਖੇ ਨੀਲ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਮਿਰਜਾਦ | He cooks his food with fire wood, wearing blue clothes is the tradition. ਕਛ ਸ੍ਵੇਤ ਔ ਨੀਲ ਪਟ ਜਪ ਅਰ ਜਾਪੁ ਉਚਾਰ **White kachhera**, blue clothes, he recites Jap Ji Sahib and Jaap Sahib. ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤ ਕਰੇ ਚੰਡੀ ਕੰਠ ਸੁਧਾਰ | Recite Sri Akaal Ustat, memorise Chandi Di Vaar. ਰੋਮ ਬਸੰ ਤਨ ਮੈਂ ਕ੍ਰਿਯਾ ਪਿੰਡ ਕਰਮ ਕੋ ਤ੍ਯਾਗ | The hair resides on the body, forsake cutting it. ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਮੈਂ ਪ੍ਰੀਤ ਕਰ ਪੰਚ ਜਨਨ ਤੇ ਭਾਗ | Have love for the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, run from the 5 vices (Lust, Anger, Greed, Attachment, and Ego). ਮੜ੍ਹੀ ਦੇਵ ਗੋਰਲ ਤਜੈ ਔਰ ਨ ਪੰਥ ਪੁਜਵਾਇ Memorials, Hindu temples, graves he forsakes. Do not worship another path. ਕਰੇ ਕੇਸ ਕੋ ਕਲਪ ਨਾ ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਦੈ ਤ੍ਯਾਗ He does not colour his hair, forsake lust and anger. ਜੁਧ ਕਰੇ ਤ ਸੋਨਹਾਰ ਦੀਨ ਪ੍ਰਤਗਿਯਾ ਲਾਗ | Waging war by placing faith in his religion, he shall be successful. ਕਛ ਅਢਾਈ ਗਜ ਮਾਨ ਸਾਫਾ ਭੀ ਤੁਲ ਤਾਸ The Kachhera should be 2 and 1/2 Gaj. Keep a waist belt (safa/kamar kassa). ਤੀਨ ਕਾਲ ਮੇਂ ਨਾਮ ਜਪ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕੱਟ ਫਾਸ | All times meditate on the naam, the noose of transmigration will be cut. ਊਚਾ ਬੁੰਗਾ ਜੋ ਸਜੈ ਨਾਮ ਨਿਹੰਗ ਸੁਜਾਨ He who wears the tall turban (Ucha Boonga), know him as a Nihang ਕਰਮ ਅਕਾਲੀ ਸਮ ਕਰੇ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਸਿਖ ਧਰ ਕਾਨ | He does the actions on an Akaali, Listen O Sikhs with your ears. ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਤਨ ਮੈਂ ਧਾਰੇ ਬਿਨਾ ਮਯਾਨ ਤੇ ਤੇਗ ਹਾਥ ਮੈਂ ਰਾਖੈ He keeps the weapons on his body. Without a sheath, he keeps the sword in hand. ਭੇਸ ਸ਼ਤਰੂ ਕਾਰਨ ਕਰੇ ਮਰਨ ਜਨਮ ਕਾ ਭੈ ਨ ਹੋਇ | He dresses in this way for his enemies, he has no fear of transmigration. ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨ ਸੀਸ ਪੈ ਰਾਖ ਕੈ ਬੁੰਗਾ ਊਚਾ ਧਾਰ He keeps a kirpan on his head, wearing a tall turban (daggers tied within the turban). ਧਰੀ ਸੁ ਕਲਗੀ ਪੰਥ ਸਿਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹੋਇ ਦਯਾਰ | Placing the crown on the Panths head, is the Satgurus charity. ਲੋਹ ਪਾਤਰ ਮੈਂ ਛਕੈ ਨੀਲ ਪੀਤ ਧਾਰੇ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ He eats out of all iron dishes, wearing clothes of blue and yellow. ਭੂਸ਼ਨ ਲੋਹ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਕੋੱਟ ਗੰਗਾ ਸਮ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰ ਸਮਝੇ Equal to a million Ganges rivers, does he consider Amritsar (Amrit Sarovar, the pool of nector). ਫੌਜ ਮੁਸੱਦੀ ਵਜ਼ੀਰ ਦੀਵਾਨ ਸਭ ਖਾਲਸਾ ਰਖਣੇ ਧਰਮ ਬਢੈਗਾ | The Armies, Advisors, Courtiers should all be Khalsa, the religion will increase. ਭੇਟ ਕਰਦ ਬਿਨ ਨਹਿ ਭਖੈ ਤਯਾਗੀ ਨਾ ਗ੍ਰਹਨਾਇ Without touching the dagger to his food he will not eat. Do not abandon the home. ਬਿਨ ਬਿਵਾਹੀ ਨ ਸੇਜ ਰਮ ਤਿਸ ਸਦ ਧਰਮ ਸਹਾਇ | Without marriage, he does not take a women to bed. To her he shall always be faithful. ਫੂਕ ਨ ਬੂਈਏ ਦੀਨ ਕੌ ਗੁਰ ਸੋ ਕਪੱਟ ਨ ਕੀਨ With his breathe he does not put out a light. Never be deceitful to the Guru. ਅਗਨਿ ਨਾ ਬੁਝਈ ਜੂਠ ਜਲ ਤੋ ਸੁਖ ਜਗ ਮੈ ਲੀਨ | Do not put out a fire with previously used water (jootha water), thus get comfort in this. ਵੈਸਾਖੀ ਦੀਪਮਾਲਾ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰ ਕਰੇ ਹੋਲਾ ਅਨੰਦਪੁਰ ਕਰੇ On Vaisakhi he lights the light at Amritsar, celebrate Hola (Mohalla) at Anandpur. ਅਬਚਲ ਨਗਰ ਜਾਇ ਕੁਲ ਸੰਬੂਹ ਤਰੇ | His lineage will be saved by visiting Abchal Nagar (Sri Hazoor Sahib). ਰਹਿਤ ਰਹਤ ਸਮ ਸਿਖ ਜੋ ਸੋ ਮੇਰੋ ਰੂਪਾਇ He who lives according the the code of conduct is my very form. ਵਾ ਮੈ ਮੋ ਮੈਂ ਭੇਦ ਨਹਿ ਮਮ ਸਰੂਪ ਹੁਇ ਜਾਇ | Between him and myself, there is no difference. He has become my form. - Now, I'm not sure the actual reason behind this, why it must be white. (This may help: https://www.3ho.org/3ho-lifestyle/daily-routine/wearing-white) But Guru Sahib does give the hukam of wearing blue clothing, a tall blue turban, and a white kachera, and no other colour than that. This discipline is only neccesary for amritdhari sikhs, as it is the khalsa roop.

Alrighty. Thanks for all the help bhai sahib!

I have a MIDI keyboard with a harmonium sound and it sounds semi realistic. But maybe that won't work? Not sure. What do you think?

Could it be done with a piano or keyboard?

I also love the taus and dilruba, especially since they are creations of our gurus. The reason I would rather the sitar is because bowed instruments just aren't my thing and i prefer plucked string instruments or percussion instruments. I currently play primarily the mandolin, and i know that is used in kirtan sometimes, but I have hardly any knowledge of how to play kirtan. But really the instrument that i end up playing doesn't matter, I just want to learn kirtan!

I'm looking into learning how to play raag and obviously I'll need an instrument to do so. What instruments would you recommend for a beginner at kirtan? I'm leaning towards the sitar but im not sure. I'd like to hear your input. Bhagat

I'm not a troll and I'm so sorry if it appears that I'm attempting to mislead my fellow brothers and sisters. I am mislead and fall into doubt all the time so please do ardaas for me and please don't judge me for my foolishness. Thanks for are all your help too my brothers and sisters. Bhagat Singh

Bhagat Kabir Ji writes on Ang. 1365 of Adhi Guru Granth Sahib, "Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald." What does Kabirji mean here, and more specifically, why would this be included in Shri Adhi Guru Granth Sahib? The Khalsa is instructed to wear unshorn kesh, but Bhagat Kabir Ji seems to say that is not relevant in merging with God.....then what's the point of being keshadhari? Blessings, Bhagat Singh PS: Neither Bhagat Jayadeva nor Bhagat Namdev wore unshorn kesh, and many other bhagats (including Kabirji himself) are rumoured not to have. What is up with that?

Why is it bad to lust after a person? Masturbation is a pleasurable experience, what is so bad about it that must be conquered spiritually?? If it hurts no one else, why is it bad?

Haha ya i misread that whoops ?.

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Yeah Ron Paul was such a smart man, and Rand Paul was nothing like him, although of all of the Republicans he was certainly the most sensible. And yes that shabad really does seem to talk of God's kingdom like a Libertarian paradise! Vaheguru! "No taxes or commodities". Wow! There is a candidate I suggest checking out whose name is Austin Petersen, he is of the Libertarian Party and he is quite similiar to Ron Paul in ideologies.

That's awesome man! I'm not of age to vote yet but I love politics and I am a Libertarian so that's great. Who was it that you voted\will vote for?

I have created a quick online poll to take data on American Sikhs about what political party they are a part of. I would love for you to take part and answer so please take the poll here: http://www.riddle.com/a/61255. Remember once you click your answer it is your final response. If this poll is a success I will make one for other countries' political parties and even for current elections' candidates. Thanks in advance! Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!!