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Debating the Dasam Granth by Robin Rinehart
dallysingh101 replied to dallysingh101's topic in GURBANI | SAKHIAN | HISTORY
I don't think CP is as binary as that, it's not all goodies and baddies. That's it's beauty, it covers grey areas.- 28 replies
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Debating the Dasam Granth by Robin Rinehart
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It's usually simpler than that. They are plain dumb and just parroting what they've heard from other uninformed sources. And those sources are usually unwittingly doing exactly what Rhinehart is saying: Framing things from a western, orientalist framework rooted in biblical studies. Even heavyweights like Kahn Singh Nabha wasn't immune, so imagine what chances the average mota dimaag apna would have. I never saw anyone do what you described with that 'crazy uncle'. I came across the ideas of 'erotic stories' and 'Hindu stories' etc. from written works. Hell, I might have easily been one of those uncles, without Guru ji's nadar.- 28 replies
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Bruce Lee it: "Absorb what is useful and reject was is useless." I think getting caught up in pointless controversies is a rabbit hole. Cultivate your own buddhi so you don't fall for anyone else's misconceptions.- 28 replies
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That's similar to my experience, all the demonisation of DG and especially CP I encountered from texts growing up, ultimately just led me to them and made me look at the in more detail when I was old enough to make my own opinion. Sometimes these 'controversies' have that reverse effect. lol I don't know, but whilst he might be miles off the mark there, he might be on point here.- 28 replies
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Some of this has been done: https://www.discoversikhism.com/sikh_library/english/psychoanalysis_of_dr_w_h_mcleod.html- 28 replies
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Some people are interested in literature and what it can tell us in terms of concepts and ithihaas and the cultures the works emanate from. She seems to be genuine based on what I read therein?- 28 replies
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Debating the Dasam Granth by Robin Rinehart
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I hear you 100%! I loathe Mcleod's work, I think even most of the Singh Sabha era literature has been infected with that orientalist mindset internally. I read this work with a hawkish attitude because of my previous experiences with 'Sikhism' texts (of which I've read many and grew up on), and was pleasantly surprised at its balance. I think it has a lot of merits. It's a textual analysis that attempts to actual contextualise and grasp the underlying message behind various works within. For the record, whilst I applaud and value Shackle's contributions for their linguistic usefulness, I think he himself hasn't been able to shake off that orientalist mindset. To him the Singh Sabha era was a renaissance period - to me it was a hardcore colonial subordinate compromise.- 28 replies
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This site doesn't allow you to upload books like that, that's why you have to get it from the other one. It has the complete work now.- 28 replies
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I have to say, as someone who has tried to translate stuff in the past, I did think her translations of the Chandi narratives were impressive.- 28 replies
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From what she wrote I think she is aware that this is not just a 'text' for us. She also seems to understand its relevance and utility for people.- 28 replies
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I'm super suspicious of western works myself, but I read this, and I think it was spot on. It comes to very similar conclusions about Dasam Granth that some of us who grew up with DG being demonised and looked into ourselves came to. I found it highly perceptive, more than some standard pendu level analysis. Try now, I put a new link in the first post. If you have any issues downloading, let me know.- 28 replies
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Sikhs 'distancing themselves' from Muslims after 9/11
dallysingh101 replied to Kau89r8's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
I might be wrong, but remembering back then, I think it was mainly US Sikhs doing that? Where I'm at, most sharp Sikhs were anticipating something big from that quarter, I think some of our guys infiltrated them and knew something big was coming. -
Debating the Dasam Granth by Robin Rinehart
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The Sikh Revolution by Jagjit Singh
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Sikhs 'distancing themselves' from Muslims after 9/11
dallysingh101 replied to Kau89r8's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
Depends where you live. I didn't see that. But that being said, having grown up around racial violence, I wouldn't be particularly keen to see (for example) some hijaban women or a kid being abused or attacked in front in of me. -
I think this film covers how Panjabi peasants got shafted.
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Haven't watched it yet.
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Or you come across as a 'pajama'. I was taught to speak polished Malwa Panjabi from a child, but as soon as I turned teenager and went out in the working/wider world and had to work with other rural apnay I soon realised it marked me out - actually they didn't hesitate to tell me straight up, asking me why I was talking like that. I adapted. I know it's wrong, but I'm messed up too: a Sikh talking Hindi does my head in. Probably for the same reasons that olders subtly made me talk 'less polished' when I was younger (as alluded to above).