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Which is why we need to stop relying on other's to do our bidding, we need to put ourselves in positions where we can make change but here's the problem, every time someone get's to a position like that our community very quickly make sure they are dragged back down, Mp's like Tan Dhesi are prime examples of this, whatever he does won't be enough for the community (but in his case he's one of the few that does ask question's like the one above in parliament). What happened in the 80's took place in a very different time, it was a lot easier to hide the shady stuff governments did back then, in today's age it's a lot more difficult, one tweet from a singer proved that weeks back when the ugly reality that is the Indian government came to light (and all the tweet said was that we should talk bout what's happening), it's easy to become jaded and loose hope that nothing will change but at some point something will give.

My meaning is as an alternative to government intervention, i agree, people are people, they're self centred at the end of the day and want the latest iPhone and don't care if the kid you made it get's pain £5 a month, but you have to have faith in something.

The thing you have to remember is that mainstream news agencies (like the BBC) have a narrative they want to feed the public, i remember the week before the first national lockdown last March in the UK, i was going to work on the train everyday and nearly had a breakdown because i kept watching the news, my wife made me turn it off so i could get my head together, this is what they do a lot, they feed you a version of events that they want you to believe, that's their editorial judgement at work, they've done the same with the farmers protest. If there had been violence at the protests and, let's say, the instigators were Muslim, then the media over here would be all over it because it fit's in with their narrative to show one particular race as bad, in the case of Sikhs it's a little more difficult because the majority of the time we're on the tv we are portrayed as good people who help others, in India however, their media narrative is that all the protestors are Khalistani Sikh terrorist's and that's what they're trying to sell to the world and failing miserably at it and now they've arrested a climate change campaigner over there as a scapegoat for Greta Thunberg over a one page google doc that allegedly tells the farmers how to protest. India have become a manufacturing powerhouse, they produce half the worlds drugs and vaccines, the majority of the worlds paracetamol production is based there, the government over there know this and are well aware that if countries mess with them they'll cut off supplies but it shouldn't stop other countries calling them out, failing that, the general public have more power than any government, they need to start vetoing things made over there,

Welcome to post-Brexit Britain, enjoy your stay, people need to think before they speak now (which, to be fair, they should anyway). The flip side of this is the Government doesn't get it all their own way, they had a bill over turned that allowed them to freely trade with anyone that has violated human rights in the house of lords, for example, if China is found to have violated the human rights of Uyghurs then Britain has to seek permission from the supreme court before trading with them, the same could in theory go for India (we all know what they're human rights record's are like).

You said "Amazing how fast things happen when people want it to.", my point was it took Ofcom nearly 2 years to make a decision, it was hardly fast, i don't know you could vote for your own posts, i might just go through and do that to all my posts now.......

Exactly, they released a statement and video but even that show a clear lack of understanding as to how broadcasting rules work, they placed the blame on the guests they had but don't seem to understand that the responsibility lies with them as broadcasters, there's a reason most live tv show's aren't really live, they have a delay of about 10-20 seconds so things can be cut that may breach broadcast guidelines. It's just what the Sikh community needs at the moment, India are using every trick in the book to paint us all as terrorist's and you get idiots like this running their mouths off.

Hardly, it took Ofcom 2 years, and before coming out with some huge conspiracy theory about how Ofcom target Sikh channels I'd look into the history of Ktv a little, especially Jeeta Singh, every time someone say's something against them they come out wit the same "oh, they're against Sikhi" diatribe, I've seen Nigerian satellite channels that are run better than Ktv.

Very few countries will openly criticize another country, especially one they trade with, it's only recently that the UK passed comment on China's treatment of Uyghurs, at most they could say that they agree with the right to peaceful protest, i don't think they have any sway beyond that, this is the same government who have let a British citizen languish without any concrete evidence in a prison in India for over 3 years, his case has been bought up time and time again and they've done nothing. I think this is about being backed into a corner because they messed up Brexit and have to beg for trade deals because they don't have the international power they once had in the "Glorious day's of Empire" but i do agree with you about "Indian" people still harking back to the glory day's because they have been brainwashed over generations to believe that the "White" man was our saviour.

What he's saying is, loosely translated is, they aren't going to anything because they've just signed a 23 billion deal with India and they don't really care what happens to people over there they don't want to criticise or upset the Indian government in any way because it may affect their trade deal, okay, that's not what he said but that's what will happen.

If your idea of a "very troubling and challenging marriage" is your wife complaining that a kitchen built in a garage is too cold count then the bar you've set for a difficult marriage is pretty low. As already suggested, go in there while your wife is cooking and see what it's like, if it's cold get some heating put in and some insulation. Traditionally in Punjabi houses the "garage" kitchen would be where the meat was made, i have a few relatives who still do that, they think it keeps the main kitchen pure for some reason, i gave up explaining the irony of it all.

I saw the Naseeruddin Shah interview this morning, he's probably one of the most level headed actors over there, i remember him last year when he ripped into Kangana Ranaut on live TV for glamorising the death of Sushant Singh for her own means.

I'm sure Greta is trembling in her boots.

Yes and no, the like's of Farage, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson and plenty of others pushed the boundaries of social media pretty far before getting booted off (apart from Farage), India is where America was a few years ago, the rise of the right wing is apparent, people are willing to believe in the fake narrative spewed by the government, the only difference here is it's being endorsed by celebrities over there because if they go against it they're pretty much finished. The less attention people like Kangna is given the better, hew narrative is formed so she keeps the attention on her so she get's noticed, she will no doubt end up in politics in one form or another, it's not like you need any qualifications to become a politician over there, they have a tea boy in charge who lied about his past....

It's textbook Trumpism, he would post using the same kind of language, if you have a twitter account the best thing to do is report it, at some point the algorithm will pick up on the amount of reports and start flagging the tweets. She is an out of work actress who want's to get into politics, nothing more, the only problem is the crown that follow her are usually "patriotic" Indians who would throw themselves of bridges to their death if they were told it's the patriotic thing to do, as difficult as it is it's usually best to ignore people like her.

I've stopped looking at Twitter, the amount of hate and anger from RSS and BPJ fools who have 10 followers each and have probably never stepped out of their villages let alone seen a real toilet is astounding, India's handling of the farmer's bill is nearly as bad as the UK's handling of the current pandemic, it's a joke.

It's also dragged the Bollywood elite out to defend their country, who in turn are getting roasted on Twitter, Greta Thunberg getting called a Khalistani terrorist by a BJP nut job was a particular highlight.

Twitter was a crazy place yesterday, the RSS/BJP mob went insane after she put out her tweet, if nothing else it's bought awareness to the issue to people who normally wouldn't look twice.

Depends where you're based really, if your in the or near the Midlands give Juggy Musicals in Coventry a ring, the number's 07968 635815, he might be able to help.

No apology necessary, we're all on a journey to learn new things and are all entitled to our own opinions. A couple of points, when our people (Sikhs) suffer, we tend to help ourselves, i don't really think we rely on other communities which is a good and bad thing because everyone needs someone at some point, there are a lot of grass roots charities and organisations that do help on a local level in Punjab it's just that they don't do it publicly, they just get on a do it, a few families from the school my youngest children go to have moved to India to help at the Mata Sahib Educational Trust, they provide free education for children. I don't think there is anything wrong with being known as a religion that provides Free Food for all, in this day and age when childhood poverty is at an all time high things like this matter, providing free food is a stepping stone into educating people about Sikhi, KA do a lot more than just provide free food, the proof is in things like the "Godi" media in India trying to label them a terrorist organisation the result of that being huge companies like Westmill foods (they own Elephant Atta amongst others) pulling all their advertising an sponsorship from channels like ZeeTV because they don't want to be associated with them for spreading fake right wing news. As far as Sikh organisations getting together, i think most of them are linked together and send people in the right direction when asked.

As someone who's been married for nearly 20 years I'll give you some simple advice, take all your plan's, your ideas about marriage and your presumptions and throw them out of the window, where you are now compared to where you will be in 10 years time are completely different places. I got married and lived with my family, i had to move out because the new job i had was too far to commute, my wife loved it (although she had no issue living with my family), it meant she could run things how she wanted, so, a fair few years later our everyday conversation is about regret and how we shouldn't have moved away, we've been through some really (and i mean really) tough time's over the years and had we have lived with my family it would had made those times a little easier to bear but hey, spilt milk analogy and all. In your case, sit down and talk about the present and why she feel's that way instead of making plans for the future (although they are just as important), from a financial point of view your thinking is on the right path, look, the most important thing is to be open and honest both with your GF and your parent's, take it from someone who's been through the mill, it will save you many sleepless nights in the future. Your uncle is a wise man, he's not joking, trust me.

I agree in the most part, i think they do need to choose where they direct their effort's more carefully but i don't agree with wanting them to just direct their efforts just towards the Sikh community, they are a Humanitarian organisation and by definition they go where help is needed, I've mentioned this in the other thread about them as well. You also have to bear in mind that it's not just Sikh's who donate money to them, it's now people from every background. The comments in the other thread have proved that this is a debate that will go on and on, simple solution is donate to those whose cause you agree with, if you want to help out farmer's families and a grass roots level I'm sure there are organisations that do that.

I'm waiting for the backlash against them to start now seeing as they decided to provide meals for the truck driver's that have been stuck outside the Port of Dover due to recent events........just sayin...

I'm pretty close to turning Vegan, the older i get the more by body disagrees with certain things, diary is pretty much at the top of the list, I've reduced my paneer intake (no easy thing in a Punjabi household) because i started getting severe headaches when eating it too often, i've gone over to plant/nut based milks, the only problem is Gulab Jamuns, damn that milk powder.

It's not sad collecting stuff like this, some historical stuff is fascinating, you could spend hours looking up stuff about a single photo, I think the "Sikh Cuisine" here has very little to do with Sikhism itself but just a description of the food, it wasn't classed as "Punjabi Food" until the mid to late 70's, my dad came here in the early 60's, i showed him this photo, he said these were aimed at the "white people" which kind of makes sense. Here's a little more information about this restaurant (and when i sat little, i mean it in the literal sense) https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/restaurants/gitanjli-7432124.html

What it says is "No employees earn over 60k for this charity", your takeaway from that is 10 employees earn £60,000 each, that really is clutching at straws, looking through their accounts from last year the annual salary bill comes to about £180,000, if that's split between 10 people then either they have a lot of underpaid staff or they just earn normal salaries, for comparison, it may be worth your while looking up what other charities pay their bosses e.g. The British Council. Surely there's more productive things that could be done rather than constantly go after Khalsa Aid, maybe look up some of the allegations leveled at The Baru Sahib Trust or something.