Sukhvirk1976
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My motive here is to learn and grow. And if that means calling out bs then I will.. I'm a Singh and if I believe that my thinking is correct then a) I will do everything to try and be proved wrong by asking questions B) however many 'senior' or none senior people disagree with me I am compelled by the strength that Guru sahibs have given me to stand alone. C) so tell me who is the sheep? Again I ask you to go back to basics, back to what we were speaking about and provide some support for your arguments. You never know if you did, I may then agree with you
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Bro let's just stick to facts and engage our brains. I do ahankar, and my khoj as directed by Guru sahib is part of the process to eliminate it.. You can put words in my mouth all you like.. The fact that you see your opinions as aligned with guru sahibs only demonstrates your own ego.. You repeatedly claim to speak for them and like all people who have a lot to say but nothing of substance to back it up when challenged you hide behind a false piety..
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I have no problem with that but it says nothing about dating.. If we believe bani to be 'Sat' which I do. Then truth has to be without contradiction.. Ie. We cannot expand upon it or draw conclusions from it that do not fit. If a unmarried sikh was to follow the above statement they would never get married and then become brahmachari.. So the context of it must or can only be applied in circumstances such as one who is already married or their is a deeper meaning. Truth is incontrovertible and bani is sat so if we as readers of bani come up with assumptions that are flawed doesn't mean bani is flawed it means our understanding is flawed
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Bro you seem to be missing the point.. Let me be clear.. You seem to have a very narrow view of what 'dating' means. Dating doesn't necessarily mean a exploitative relationship.. Two individuals can meet each other with a view to see whether they are not compatible or not.. That may happen on a single date or over a number of times. A date doesn't mean they engage in sexual relations but even if it did, whilst not ideal it doesn't mean that they have done anything wrong.. The reason I asked you the question which you avoided to answer was to illuminate the contradiction of your point.. Moreover you have no idea whether or not all living guru sahibs had or had not met their prospective spouses before marriage since we unfortunately don't have the documented evidence.. Before we go ahead and condemn or form such strong opinions we should at least try and understand what we can conclusively say
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"feminism /ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/ noun the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. synonyms: the women's movement, the feminist movement, women's liberation, female emancipation, women's rights; " Who's misleading who brother? You seem quite happy to go hard at me but go all snowflake when you are called out..
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Since feminism is a political movement that is about equality, I see the label as being a positive one.. Guru sahib teaches us that we should break down all discriminatory practices.. So if you have a problem with gender equality, you don't have a problem with me, you have a problem with gurmat.. I think you should khoj on that rather than making assumptions about my knowledge of sikhi.. Since your own understanding seems lacking of the very basic principles
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It is not controversial. You made a judgement saying that 'dating' is not permissible in Sikhism.. All I asked was can you please qualify the statement.. First of all you should define 'dating'. Secondly, I asked a simple question about whether you ever met or spoke to you wife before marriage.. It was to draw out a flaw in your assertion that any woman other than your wife should be treated as a sister. The question was to elucidate the fact that clearly if you had met even for a brief moment you must have viewed your prospective wife as a potential future partner.. Notwithstanding the fact it is possible that you may or may not have been introduced for a arrange marriage with someone other than your current wife.. Which by logic means that even holier than thou you looked upon a woman who was not your wife as something other than your sister.. Personally I see nothing wrong with this but you clearly do so instead of getting all in a tizz think about it
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Very interesting. Why are you bothered how the westerner defines it. If someone went with their family or it is still essentially a a pre-marriage meeting when the other person is clearly not either your sister or wife but someone. So your binary logic just doesn't work? Also you didn't answer the question whether or not you met your wife before marriage.. In which ever circumstances?
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Yes nearly 15 years ??
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I would say rather than thinking about what questions to ask is think about the things that are important to you that she should know about and ask her what she feels about them? Just my opinion bro but I think it gets straight to the point rather than obscure questions. Plus it is a very humble and equal way of approaching the issues ??
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You seem to have a very interesting view of dating.. The subtext of what you are saying is that it is somehow inherently bad.. Dating can be as simple as meeting someone to find out if you want to be in relationship get married even.. I'm guessing you're married? If so did you meet your spouse before marriage before making your decision or getting married?