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  1. Guru Fateh, Kurtas, its not only the another one ...but it willl goes on and on .... PLEASE FORGIVE MY ENGLISHB IS NOT AS MUCH GOOD AS U ALL. Secondly i am not lieing .... since i am taken amrit .... i never says lie ... wat proof u want or all of u want ..... did u really want the truth come to my place i show u the truth.. i posted 3 forums, revenge for 1984, why womens dont hve rights to give amrit, and one more new face behind 1984 riots ..... In first one "revenge for 1984" i spoken very rudely ..... people some one over here replied good post, sended personal messages and some one giving me the lectures regarding wat is sikhism ...and so on In second post why womens done hve rights to give amrit ..... i written the complete truth, if u cant understand or dont want to understand or thinking that u and many of ur friends are always right then thanks for reply again that i am liar. third post "one more new face ..." Most of the people over here just come for timepass, how to spoil others forums is speciallity in people like u and many, how to make themselve smart and others liar.... Dear friends wat we are and wat we r doing is very far from thinking tooo .... i just come over here to select the singhs.... there are many not u or ur friends ...who joined us ..... wat u think .... we come over here to post full of utter lies ..... dear can u tell me the true jivan which u and ur friends has followed. we dont want to show ourselves... but people like u need this ... We all are amritdhari singh's and singhani's, we do nitnem daily in early morning between 2:00 to 4:00 A.M, Doing dasm path, we all knows gatka's, we knows dhadi kirtan too, Some of us are engg., doctors or businessmen, we help poor peoples, we dont have any problem with castes, we are having problem with the things going on wid us.... u can jus sit here in sikhsangat.com and just go on replying by showing urself as more smart ... ok tell me wat can u do for ur caste if the need arises to do or die. We come here to create a big circle of sikh youth.... u r telling that i am always lie's .... dear people over here just do and enjoying the post ..... our task is not to spread lie ...but truth which u dont want to accept... Parchar done by us is very rude and kattad i also accept this .... so its request against for singhs to dont read it if u see the name as amrik_revenge..... since according to u all i am liar...... good and thanks for compliments.. Dear but u dont know hidden views ... many of the singhs/singhani's from this sites, gets inspired and send me the personal messages .... from here our circles spreads more and more ...... Our parchar is very rude, even u or some one has to hold arms .... so keep feet in right direction, not in our direction .... since "BAKIAN NALOO JEON DE DHANG VAKHARE NE, BOLEE KOI KAURA KAR DENDE DAKRE NE, VAIRI DA SIR VADKEY NEZE UTE TANGDE NE, SINGHAN DE PUTT YODHEY, SINGHAN GHAR JAMDEY NE". Waheguru Ji Ka khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki fateh.
  2. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh, Khalsa jee's there is no source and links availble which prove this. Yes, but its true i will not tell anything lie in this forum, i also get shocked when i heard this truth from singh's who was there in the field of sant jee (Sant jarnail singh ji khalsa). You have to believe this, its doesnt contain any proof since bachaan doesnt came forward, still now also, there are many insulting things are happening by R.S.S against sikhs, which is being supported financially by amitabh, i dont hve any proof, but one day we will proof this with picture infront of all. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh,
  3. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh. An important information has came into hand that there one more person is involved, who has given a diversion to 1984 sikh riots, Amitabh Bachaan. Amitabh bachaan a one of the popular actor of the bollywood, sponsored oil and tyres for burning sikhs in 1984 sikh riots. You all are aware that sajjan kumar, jagdish tytler having a big hands in this but very few people know's the hidden man behind this, yes, its amitabh bachaan. A 1984 riots is a complete pre-planned riots, includes amitabh bachaan also, who sponserd oil and tyres for burning sikhs at delhi. Rajiv gandhi has given 48 hours to delhi and U.P hindus for killing as much sikhs as they can. Jagdish tytler and sajjan kumar, planned the 1984 riots, Amitabh bachaan has spondered the money..... See the preplanned activity of independent india. Guru Fateh "EHOO MERI AAGYA SUNOOO HEY PYAREE, BENA TEGH KESANG DEHOO NAA DEDAREE"
  4. GURU FATEH, DEAR ALL SEE AND READ BELOW WHATS HAPPENING WITH OUR PRECIOUS HISTORY, HINDUS ARE SPOILING IT VERY CRUCIALLY. WATS UR ALL OPINION AFTER READING THIS ... SEND YOUR REPLY ================================================================ Distortion of Sikh History continues in Indian Books June 2006 Panthic Weekly News Bureau "The first step in liquidating a people is to erase its memory. Destroy its books, its culture, its history, Then have somebody write new books, manufacture a new culture, invent a new history. Before long the nation will begin to forget what it is and what it was. The world around it will forget even faster……The struggle of man against power is the struggle of memory against forgetting." -Milan Kundera Amritsar Sahib, Punjab (KP) - Sikh organizations worldwide stand united and resolute in protest against the blatant and systematic distortion of Sikh history in elementary and high school history textbooks by the RSS and other Hindu extremist groups. Sikhs along with other minority communities including Christians, Muslims and Jains have become victims of a massive government organized campaign to spread false and distorted information about these minority communities in an attempt to homogenize them into the construct of one religion, one language, one land of Hindus: Hindu, Hindi, Hindustan. Despite the protests and peaceful pleas from the Sikh community and various other minority groups, the government continues to allow and in fact supports the publishing of this false information about these religious groups. Just recently the National Council for Educational Research and Training (NCERT) published a history on 'Medieval India' to be used in the high school curriculum. In this, Professor Satish Chandra of Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU), New Delhi wrote that Guru Tegh Bahadar Ji was a 'looter and a rapist' and that Guru Sahib became a martyr not in the name of the freedom to practice religion but because Chandra claims Guru Sahib 'was a criminal.' When the Sikh minority expressed their grievances with this gross historical fallacy, Chandra defended his work by saying that he used a 'credible Persian source' albeit that this source was written over a century after Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji's Shaheedi. When questioned about the erroneous points that he presented in the text he said that he wanted to provide a 'constructive interpretation of tradition.' Congress Party leader Sonia Gandhi expressed support for Chandra's work despite protests from the Sikh minority. The book is full of numerous other historical fallacies about the Sikh Guru Sahibans with false information saying that Guru Nanak Sahib 'renounced the world', that Guru Gobind Singh Ji was a 'worshipper of Hindu Goddess Chandi' and that Sikhi is 'a part of the Hindu movement.' Another history textbook titled 'History of Punjab Part II' which is full of historical fallacies and objectionable material about the Sikh Guru Sahibans is now in wide distribution and being implemented in Punjab school curricula. The book makes multiple flagrant distortions of Sikh history calling Baba Budha Ji 'a thief,' and portraying Guru Hargobind Sahib as a person of immoral character. Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji is termed as an 'oppressor' while Guru Gobind Singh Ji is presented as a weak hearted person and a worshipper of the Hindu Goddess Durga. Numerous other perversions of history are presented in this book which is being used in the syllabi throughout Punjab and in several other states. The Sarbat Khalsa Mission issued a referendum calling for a committee to be established to ensure that such historical distortions are not permitted in the future. They also stated that only accurate and approved books with proper scholastic research should be implented into the curricula. They also called for action against Lahore Book Shop, Lajput Rai Market, Ludhiana, the book publishers and made a call to all Sikhs worldwide to boycott their company and to take strict actions against the owners of the publishing firm. A glimpse of material contained in the books: English Translations: Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji And Bhai Bidhi Chand A Sikh of the Guru was bringing a Turkish horse to Amritsar as a gift for the guru. The officials of the king in Lahore intercepted the Sikh and took the horse into their possession. The officials then presented the horse to the king. Upon seeing the beauty of the horse, the king ordered that the horse be sent to his stables and a fair price be given to the owner of the horse. When the guru came to hear of this incident, he became extremely angered, as he was not able to do anything else. Due to some unknown circumstances, this horse became crippled. The king then proceeded to gift this horse to the kazi of Lahore. The kazi sought treatment of the horse, after which the horse became well once again. Guru decided that he would attempt to purchase this horse from the kazi for 10 thousand rupees. He took possession of the horse from the kazi in Lahore to Amritsar without paying the price. In the meantime, a Sikh of the guru captured a falcon of the king. Also, a woman by the name of Kaulan who was staying in the haveli of the kazi fled with the same Sikh who had captured the falcon of the King. The woman Kaulan was in love with the guru therefore the Sikh helped her flee from the kazi. Another Quarrel Between The Guru And The King While living in the jungles, Guru Hargobind Ji brought many people into the Sikh fold. Of the individuals who had become Sikhs there was one who was a famous thief known as Buddha. This thief later on became known as Baba Buddha. The title of Baba was bestowed upon Buddha by the Sikhs of that time. This person by the name of Buddha stole two of the kings most prized horses from the king's stables and presented them to the guru. This incident led the king to become even more angered as he was already quite angered by the deeds of the guru. The king sent a large force of soldiers from Lahore under the command of Kamar Begh and Lal Begh to Amritsar. The army while advancing rapidly crossed the Satluj River. The Gurus Return To Punjab Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji returned to Anandpur from Patna. Upon returning, he purchased some land for 500 rupees from Devi Madho the king of Kehloor. On this land, he founded the city of Makhowal, which even to this day exists near the bank of the river Satluj near Kartarpur. The city of Kartarpur was one resting place of Guru Hargobind Ji, which the Sikhs consider as a holy place. After living as an Udhasi in Bengal and then returning to Punjab, it seems as if the Guru (Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji) began a criminal life of killing and looting. He had once again resumed his criminal activities, which he had suspended whilst living as an Udhasi in Bengal. The land between the Satluj River and Jhansi had been completely plundered by Guru Tegh Bahadur. The Gurus Rebellious Activities The guru had also joined with Adam Haffaz and when this Muslim began looting and killing fellow Muslims the Guru also followed his lead and began killing his fellow Hindus. Places of worship had become the prime target of the Guru and Haffaz. From the villages they had recruited many armed followers who were paid handsome salaries for their assistance in the lootings and killings. Those that were rebelling against the Mughal Empire were also inducted into the criminal gang of the guru. The Order Of The Guru The Sikhs who Guru Gobind Singh had, given the name Khalsa, were ordered to arm themselves, keep their weapons with them at all times, keep knotted and long hairs*, wear blue clothing, never wear red clothes, and never used tobacco. All the restrictions, which had been placed on eating and drinking, were abolished. *The guru was the follower of the goddess Durga who was the goddess of power. The devi had permitted the guru to open his hair and unsheathe his sword. The guru had vowed to keep his hair uncut in the remembrance of the goddess Durga, he then also gave this command to his Sikhs. Teachings For His Son Gobind Guru Tegh Bahadur said to his son Gobind "now I am going to become a martyr, son make sure my body is not left to be eaten by crows and dogs." Afterwards he instructed his son to take revenge for his soon to come death and appointed him as his successor. He picked his son up in his arms, kissed him on the forehead, and proceeded to leave for Delhi. These were times when the King had jailed hundreds of Brahmins and had hoped that if Guru Tegh Bahadur would become Muslim, then the rest of the Hindus in jails and otherwise would follow his lead. The King Asks For A Miracle To Be Performed The king had a religious debate with Guru Tegh Bahadur numerous times and said that if you are the real Guru then show some miracle otherwise adopt the Islamic faith. When the Guru said no to both options given by the king he was sent to prison. The guru has asked numerous times to become a Muslim but he declined their request every time. For this disobedience, they began to torture the guru. Not being able to take this torture any longer, the Guru declared that he will show a miracle and will provide proof that his path is true. A Unique Scheme He was presented before the King, on this occasion all the Kings employees were present to witness the miracle. Addressing the gathering the Guru Ji said that a man's religion is to remember God but since the King has ordered him to show some miracle he shall obey these orders. Then Guru Ji proceeded to write some words on a piece of paper thaveeth which he then tied around his neck. He then exclaimed that no sword could cut his neck due to what he had written on that paper. Now the executioner was called so that this miracle may be tested. When the executioner swung his sword and hit the Gurus neck, the guru's head separated from his body and landed on the ground. Seeing this onlookers were surprised. Then the papers was taken from the guru neck and read, the paper had the following written on it, "ਸਿਰ ਦੀਆ ਸਰ ਨ ਦੀਆ" ** meaning that he had given his head but not revealed his secret. The guru did not longer physically exist but his holy deed stayed forever. All were surprised to see this incident take place; the king himself became saddened and in anger ordered all to leave. Even though, this is the tale that the lovers of miracles have narrated; it is most likely that the guru was declared a rebel and executed. (** Eds. Note: The above is a serious distortion of Gurbani, the actual verse is : ਸੀਸ ਦੀਆ ਪਰ ਸਿਰਰ੠ਨ ਦੀਆ ॥) These blasphemous extracts provide further evidence that the RSS in collaboration with the Government of India is on a wide scale misinformation campaign to distort, misrepresent, discredit and swallow all minority communities into the Hindutva mold in order to make their motto of 'Hindu, Hindi, Hindustan Bakee Ka Nahee Rahey Nishan' a reality. It is crucial for the Sikh Nation to understand the seriousness of this issue, and the need to take appropriate actions so further denigration and alteration of Sikh history is thwarted immediately. Panthic Weekly appreciates the efforts taken by organizations such as Sarbat Khalsa Mission, Shahbaaz Khalsa, GURSIKH, Khalsa Alliance, and others so our Nation can be kept aware of the surreptitious attacks on our faith and history by Hinduvta forces and agencies. Reference Information : -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Letters from Organizations in regards the above books : Original Letter by Sarbat Khalsa Mission : Click to View Page 1 English Translation : Our children will lose faith after reading such books with distorted facts about Sikh Guru Sahibans and the roots of Sikh values will be destroyed. This is the reason that this matter needs immediate action. Should we accept that history writers and teachers are enemies of Sikh values? Before writing such false information, writers should think and collect only true matter so that it matches the historical facts written by Bhai Veer Singh and Bhai Sahib Singh and only those books should be taught in schools and colleges. History of Punjab Part II, History of the Punjab by Mohamad Lateef, and other such books, interpreted by Gurmukh Singh 'Gurmukh' and published by Tajinderbir Singh, should be taken back from schools and colleges and should be banned instantaneously. 1. A committee should be established to read again all the history books published, so that publishing of such degrading books can be recognized and then banned. 2. Only, accurate and approved books should then be allowed in schools and colleges. 3. Above mentioned books are being sold at "Layalpur Depot" outside the Akal Garh Market, for the purpose of disturbing the environment and to defame Sikhs. 4. Above-mentioned book has been published by Lahore Book Shop, Lajpat Rai Market, Ludhiana. Strict actions should be taken towards the owner of this shop so that the situation can be brought to normal again. Please cooperate, with grief, Sarbat Khalsa Mission (Reg:) President: Jarnail Singh Vice President: Gurdeep Singh General Secretary: Harmeet Singh Press Secretary: Prabhjeet Singh Secretary: Jagjeet Singh Treasurer: Kamaldeep Singh------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gurmukhi Original of Collective Letter : Click to View English Translation of Collective Letter by: Kalghidhar Youth Seva Society, Sarbat Khalsa Mission, Guru Granth Sahib Satkar Committee, Sarab Rog Ka Aukadh Naam, Guru Angad Dev Seva Society (Reg), Nitnem Seva Society, Gurmat Chetna Front, Bhai Ghanaiya Ji Seva Society Khalsa Ji Wake Up...............Khalsa Ji Wake Up………….Wake Up Now!!!! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sadh Sangat Ji in the stores a book by the name of History of Punjab Part II has been published. In this book, a great deal of objectionable material has been written regarding Sikh Guru Sahibs. Also in this book disrespectful words have been used for Baba Budha Ji, which have pierced the hearts of every Sikh. In this book, Mard Agamra Kalghidhar Pathshah Guru Gobind Singh Ji is described as a weak hearted person. In this book, the 6th Guru Sahib, who uttered the words "ਦੋਲਤ ਗà©à¨œà¨°à¨¾à¨¨, ਔਰਤ ਇਮਾਨ, ਪà©à©±à¨¤à¨° ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨ" is portrayed as a person of bad character. In this book, Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib who uttered the words "ਭੈਅ ਕਾਹੂ ਕੋ ਦੇਤ ਨਹਿ, ਨਹਿ ਭੈਅ ਮਾਨਤ ਆਨ" is termed as an oppressor. In this book, Bhram Giani Baba Budha Ji is said to be a thief. Most shameful is the fact that this book, which pierced the heart of all Sikhs, was printed by in Punjabi by Lahore Book Shop, Ludhiana: Prof. Tejinderbir Singh and in English and Hindi by Kalyani Publisher Lyallpur Book Center Choura Bazaar Ludhiana. The main point to take notice of is that this book has been included in the history syllabus and it presents a much distorted version of Sikh history, which will lead to the weakening of Sikh credibility throughout the world. Sadh Sangat Ji, this has now become intolerable. What worse can we hear than this?? They have directly attacked us by presenting our Guru Sahibs in such a false and degrading manner. Wake Up Now!!! Our self-respect is being threatened!!!!! Wake Up Now!!! They are killing you in your own home!!!! Wake Up Now!!! The Guru who you bow your head to, the guru from whom you ask for your wants, over who you wave the whisk, over whom you hang a canopy, that Gurus glory and grandness is being tarnished!!!!!!!!!! If you do not wake up now then do not be proud of the saroop that you see in the mirror, which was gifted to you by Guru Gobind Singh Ji….instead you should feel ashamed. Our Guru Sahib has taught us to protect the religion of others but we are not even protecting our own religion. If we do not give these people a strong/powerful response today then any Tom, <admin-profanity filter activated>, and Harry will get up and speak wrong of our Guru Sahibs. If we have love towards our Guru…if we truly accept Guru Granth Sahib Ji as our father, then those brothers who are fighting this battle, lets stand with them and prove that we are the sons of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. This is not a request but this is a message as we all have the same father Come, let us work collectively……. =====================================================================
  5. Guru Fateh, Singhs from damdami taksal has arrived at Tagor nagar vikhroli, Bombay. After Akhand path saheb bhog in the memeory of saheed singhs who lost there life in 1984 and chadd di kala of sant jarnail singh ji khalsa bhindrawale (damdami taksal), singhs decided for amrit sanchar on this sunday 11th June 2006. Its a request against those singhs who have not taken amrit yet, please call at no. 09892206355 (Amrik singh) to have amrit. Amrit sanchar is at Bombay. " Amrit pevooh sadaa chir jevo" "Ehoo meri aagya sunoo hey pyaree, bina tegh keshang dehoo na didareey" "Pevoo pahul khand dhar hovey janam suhhela" Amrit sanchar is at Guruduwara Tagore nagar, vikhroli ( e), bombay. Bombay residential sangat please contact at above number if intersted. Das is doing this sewa of information as per intruction from sangat and punj pyaree arrived at Vikhrol, Bombay. "Aakhri saah mukan to pehla, ek sadhaar hey meri, poorey kesri baaney vich surat dekhaan teri. Babey nanak ji eh bigad rahi kahani saambh levo, Kidhar ja rahi hey eh sardari saambh levo. Sarbansdani thodey toh sarbaans vaar gaya, oh saanu samja samja haar gaaya. Gobind de putra'n ney mud ke ni aauna, eh nishani saamb levo. Kidhar nu ja rahi hey eh sardari sambh levo. " " Tikhi talwaar ne sanu janam dita, Gudti milli a khande di dhar toh, sikhi sadak te sir dastar sohni, sadda vakhra e roop sansaar vichoon" Jena singha ne aajey tak vichar nahi kita, ooh vichaar kar levo, amrit zarror sahakoo, " Velaa bityaa haath nahi aaona" Bombay dey singh/singhniyoo vichar banaoo, eh na soocheyoo k baad vich shaak lavangey, kyonki maut ne kehdey vele halaa bol dena kuch pataa nahi, Guru kar vich dhaklaa len da ehoo charaa hey. jehdey singh bombay nahi aa sakdey ...ooh jethey v rehndey hoon... amrit zarror shakoo ji. Guru Fateh
  6. Bhagat kabir saheb ji has 2 childs one is son whose name is kamala, and other one is daughter whose name is kamali. Kamali' ji accepted bhagat kabir sahib's as her Guru and fall in love with LORD RAM. She is describing the scenerio of heaven in her beautiful words as follows. Saiyoo RAM lagan bhaiyoo bawariyaa, Saiyoo RAM lagan bhaiyoo bawariyaa, ithey pawan, na pani koi disey, bin badal bundaa barsh rahiyaa ithey brahma na vishnu koi disey , mahadev na laiyaa tadiyaa, ithey chand, na suraj koi disey, bin balaan balan masaladiyaa, kaheey kamali kabir ki putri, mey taa ral gayi haa sangh sahaildiyaa. Saiyoo RAM lagan bhaiyoo bawariyaa, Saiyoo RAM lagan bhaiyoo bawariyaa, O meri saheliyoo/sakhiyoo mey us akaal puraakh de pyar vich bawari ho gayi va ...menu koi suudh budh nahi rahi na khaan di , naa peen, naa koi kaam karan di, har waqt oos pyaree di yaad uhdey darshana de udeek kardi va.... meri sakhiyoo eeh pyaar haad to jiyaada hi vadhi jaa rihaa heey. ithey pawan, na pani koi disey, bin badal bundaa barsh rahiyaa Jaddo meey beykhunt vich puuji ta othey da mahool kuch is parkaar heey .... otheey naa hi hawa vag rahi heey, na hi koi paani nazaar aa riha vaa .. Binaa badaalaa too hi barsaat hoi jaa rahi heey. ithey brahma na vishnu koi disey , mahadev na laiyaa tadiyaa, Ithey tinoo dev v brahma vishnu mahesh v nahi nazar aa rahey va ...meey uunaa too v aagey aa gayi va ... ithey chand, na suraj koi disey, bin balaan balan masaladiyaa, Na ithey suraj da parkash te roshni hey ...na hi chand vargi thand te halki jehi channi va. bina kisey aag too masaaala jalaan diya vaa. kaheey kamali kabir ki putri, mey taa ral gayi haa sangh sahaildiyaa. bhagat kabir ji di putri eeho keh rahi va ki mey uthey pahuunch gayio va jithey menu jaan si, meriya saheliyaa uss pyaree diya pyariyaa menu mil gayiyaa va ... Above words bhagat kamaali ji is not there in Guru granth sahib ji, i have read a jiwani of bhagat kabir saheb ji. Maharaj says about bhagaat's " chalaa nirali bhagateh teri, bhikham marag chalaan. Guru Fateh
  7. Guru Fateh, Dear all i am not hear to discuss the points, u all hve taken the meaning in the wrong way ....ok ..... a guys says that i think like muslim ....wat u hve seen in me that i think like them. These question and answer are not my own ok ..these is the truth which was happen when a lady ask these question to sant giani gurubachan singh ji in front of whole sangat... then they have explain'd with above answers. i never think .... against females/womens .... the thing is i am just discussed the point which many of the guys from this site has raised ok ..... i cant change the way u think ..... but u all have think it in wrong way by saying and giving me the heavy examples of womens ....... good Narinder singh can u explain me ..... wat i mean to say in this topic .... can u tell me when did a women has become a punj pyaree ...... i said that guru ji has given this rights to male .... i didnt said that womens are one step below ...who says this ....did i said this in my forum's topic ....can u explain me ...where i said against womens .... if i am wrong or above saint is wrong ....then u all tell us what is the truth .... i will discuss ur points with others..... but give a valid answers. Dear its better to study the history in depth ....giving a examples of such high personalities without knowing the truth is useless...
  8. Guru Fateh, I have a request from many guys to explain the reason behind why females/womens didn't get the rights to become a punj pyaree/punj pyari for giving amrit to others, even though our guruji has given equal rights to both men/women. Question is great, but answer is not easy because there are many reason behind this. 1. On vaishakhi, Guruji has just requested for 5 heads against whole sadh sangat, guruji has not said that, they want only mens head, heads can be of anyone either men/women. During this period if womens/females stands for giving head ....then may be they have get the rights to become punj pyaree/pyari. 2. When punj pyaree is formed, guruji said to all sangat that, from Today onwards,only punj pyaree can give amrit. 3. Womens/females suffer from Menstruation cycle which is natural but this can be happen at any time i.e even if they are happy or having some kind sorrow/sadness, if this happens at the time when female/women is giving amrit to others then you all can imagine wat will happen, mens also suffer from this type of thing, but they have control on it. The above 3 are the major points behind this, its request against all please dont get disturbed with this points because its not my own words its the fact/truth. Guru ka singh and singhani have same and equal rights except " amrit shakaaona" has given to only singhs. Where guru ka singh says waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh, singhni also says samething. Pul chuk maaf karna "Pulaan andar sabh ko apul guru kartaar" Guru Fateh, Baba Bhupinder singh ji (Damdami taksal jatha bhindra, punjab) Amrik Singh,Jarnail singh (vikroli, Bombay)
  9. Guru Fateh Jeo, Yes veerji its really the time for action, inspite os concentarting on forums threads, we should all concentrate or discuss ideas and suggestion related to unjustice, and defaulters. we need a one guy from delhi, from whom atleast we can came to know where this sajjan kumar, jagdish tytller live, exact address, wat there families are doing, at wat time they r alone .... we hve calculate all this points first. then we can take a action exactly wat we all want. I am interested any suggestions from u ... plzz Pul chuk maafi sadh sangat ji Guru Fateh
  10. Guru Fateh, To all veers, raju ur right i think that there should be some place or a some group who should help sikh families in case if they r in trouble i mean to say , that if any other caste/sikh caste guy is teasing or giving trouble to any sikh women/girl then she should report that group, and that group should take the responsiblity and do the needful for that girl/women or any sikh family. Yes there should be a group who should take care of if any thing is going wrong with sikh family, these group is equiped with all arms and amunition required to do needful for sikh people. sikh family should go to that group without any afraid and believe they should get justice over there, its that group repsoiblility who should give the trust to them. why we r talking about this, why dont we start this group, we all r well qualifiied, well educated, and can shoot defaulters if need arises, then wat else is required, cant we start this group. Dear one of guys says that " bhai kanayaa ji is givig water to muslim soldiers also even they r raping the sikh womens the name os the guy is "x suman x" i just want to tell him / challenge anyone who can prove me that muslim wariors of that time is raping sikh womens..... these is not possible at all. i am studing the gurbani, sikh kathaas, saheed kathaas, and much more every day i hve never heard/ read anything rapist like happen to sikh womens, sikh women shaheeds with courage, and she get died before this situation happens. Many of us come here with only half knowledge, one of the guy at sikhpal tell my that paaji at the time guru gonind singh ji there was many sikh who have not taken a amrit, i just ask him please tell me the name of any singh of that who has not followed the words of guru gobind singh ji, at last he say saorry paji i am having only half knowledge of sikhism.......... The thing is many of us is opposing me about 1984 revenge, why they r opposing, they give me gurbani's parvachan ....by saying "veer ji sikhism doesnt teach revenge". I am not talking to kill all hindus, i am not talking about the people who has made this riots r still r alive and planning for next riots, ok can any one tell me if any riots happen again wat u all people will going to do ,,..... do anyone dares to give gurbani parvachan to hinduss ....plz done kill us sikhism doest teach revenge....... could there is anyone who can do these at the time when hinduus r killing sikhs ... I cant sit like u ... and give lectures, i just take machine and complete the task of killing..... for us practical life is more important than the giving lectures. I till date i hve founf one few people from these forum who says and mails everyday by saying veerji we r with u....... i feel good when from 100 people only 2/3 guys support me, these 2/3 guys r equivalent to 2/3 lakhs os people. Sadh sangat pu chuk maaf karnaa .... Guru Fateh Amrik Singh
  11. Guru Fateh, To all veers, raju ur right i think that there should be some place or a some group who should help sikh families in case if they r in trouble i mean to say , that if any other caste/sikh caste guy is teasing or giving trouble to any sikh women/girl then she should report that group, and that group should take the responsiblity and do the needful for that girl/women or any sikh family. Yes there should be a group who should take care of if any thing is going wrong with sikh family, these group is equiped with all arms and amunition required to do needful for sikh people. sikh family should go to that group without any afraid and believe they should get justice over there, its that group repsoiblility who should give the trust to them. why we r talking about this, why dont we start this group, we all r well qualifiied, well educated, and can shoot defaulters if need arises, then wat else is required, cant we start this group. Dear one of guys says that " bhai kanayaa ji is givig water to muslim soldiers also even they r raping the sikh womens the name os the guy is "x suman x" i just want to tell him / challenge anyone who can prove me that muslim wariors of that time is raping sikh womens..... these is not possible at all. i am studing the gurbani, sikh kathaas, saheed kathaas, and much more every day i hve never heard/ read anything rapist like happen to sikh womens, sikh women shaheeds with courage, and she get died before this situation happens. Many of us come here with only half knowledge, one of the guy at sikhpal tell my that paaji at the time guru gonind singh ji there was many sikh who have not taken a amrit, i just ask him please tell me the name of any singh of that who has not followed the words of guru gobind singh ji, at last he say saorry paji i am having only half knowledge of sikhism.......... The thing is many of us is opposing me about 1984 revenge, why they r opposing, they give me gurbani's parvachan ....by saying "veer ji sikhism doesnt teach revenge". I am not talking to kill all hindus, i am not talking about the people who has made this riots r still r alive and planning for next riots, ok can any one tell me if any riots happen again wat u all people will going to do ,,..... do anyone dares to give gurbani parvachan to hinduss ....plz done kill us sikhism doest teach revenge....... could there is anyone who can do these at the time when hinduus r killing sikhs ... I cant sit like u ... and give lectures, i just take machine and complete the task of killing..... for us practical life is more important than the giving lectures. I till date i hve founf one few people from these forum who says and mails everyday by saying veerji we r with u....... i feel good when from 100 people only 2/3 guys support me, these 2/3 guys r equivalent to 2/3 lakhs os people. Sadh sangat pu chuk maaf karnaa .... Guru Fateh Amrik Singh
  12. Guru fateh, To my veer's who understand my feelings, wat i mean to say in this forum. Dear my english is weak but i am not, my mind and heart is truly spiritual i.e " Veer ji meey dil da madaa nahi, par mey ki karaa meree koloo bardaash vi nahi hundaa ki uuh lok haley vi khuley aam kum rahey ney jenaa ney dangey karwaye, jey meree dil vich koi khot hovey taa menu kidey ( germs) pavey" I am not coming to this site but one of my friend siad that many people are supporting your opinion, i am heartly thanks to :- khalsa force khalsa is spiritual mann kaum layee gurbaan budda singh ssm 10199 manchester sikhi who understand my main aim of forum. Dear lets we all meet on mail, to discuss, rather than meeting on this open forum. i am really very very happy says to all of u that "Sikh veer jawanoo gabroo, sikhi to jawani // devo, Aaj panth bada karjayi hey, sir deke karz utar devo, Sikha aaj teri sikhi te haley to haley ho rahe ne bani de premi singha nu, fad fad ke kasaai kooh rahe ne, veero kuch soch vichar karoo na sutyaa samaa guzaar devoo, Jehdi zulum kaum te taah rahi hey, kar mudhi uh sarkar devo" Dear all i am removing my pic from this site, becoz many RSS people comes here, one of my friend is arrested by doing "kataad parchar" from any of this forum site. we dont want anyone should be in harm, we accomplish our task without any harm to anyone of us, in know we all can do this. May be guru has chosen all of us to do the seva for panth, this time is not to give lectures or hear lectures from anyone, we hve to take action, either anyone of u lead all of us for peoper planning. message for Non supporter to this forum, Heartly Thanks to all of us also :- prem Lion king For showing me true way of gurbani that sikhi is no revenge. Prem veer ji u think that i am professional killer, no i am not .... i am well educated working high technologies of IBM. I again highlight this point that i dont hate any community, i love to human beings, but i am not like pandit who can see the evil going around there and request to king to save there lives from evil. Khalsa is sant sipahi i.e Guru gobind singh ji says " Ran mey jayee na kabhoo paajey" Dhrid kar shatri, dhram suu gazee" I hve seen injustice happen with us, and i want revenge, congress guys has sent prime minister manmohan singh infront of sikhs for forgiveness of 1984 riots. Is the prime ministers sister or mother is raped or any guys is died in 1984 riots, if no then why he is saying that forgive all of them. I will live all this world if anyone or i kill and cut into pieces the body of sajjan kumar, jagdish tittler. One of u guys say that he will pay 25 laks if anyone kill this sajjan kumar and jagdish tittler ....wow wat a good spirit he is having i really respect his way of speaking. vaheguru always keep ur spirit like this, u r really very good. Our aim is to do the work hiddenly without anyone knowing, fulfull the task and enjoy the future if not died. we all will not join any group we all will be in a temporary group, do the task and forget everything. I think this reply is very big i will reply u all ... thanks again to : - khalsa force khalsa is spiritual mann kaum layee gurbaan budda singh ssm 10199 manchester sikhi Guru Fateh
  13. Guru fateh, To my veer's who understand my feelings, wat i mean to say in this forum. Dear my english is weak but i am not, my mind and heart is truly spiritual i.e " Veer ji meey dil da madaa nahi, par mey ki karaa meree koloo bardaash vi nahi hundaa ki uuh lok haley vi khuley aam kum rahey ney jenaa ney dangey karwaye, jey meree dil vich koi khot hovey taa menu kidey ( germs) pavey" I am not coming to this site but one of my friend siad that many people are supporting your opinion, i am heartly thanks to :- khalsa force khalsa is spiritual mann kaum layee gurbaan budda singh ssm 10199 uk singh 24 manchester sikhi who understand my main aim of forum. Dear lets we all meet on mail, to discuss, rather than meeting on this open forum. i am really very very happy says to all of u that "Sikh veer jawanoo gabroo, sikhi to jawani // devo, Aaj panth bada karjayi hey, sir deke karz utar devo, Sikha aaj teri sikhi te haley to haley ho rahe ne bani de premi singha nu, fad fad ke kasaai kooh rahe ne, veero kuch soch vichar karoo na sutyaa samaa guzaar devoo, Jehdi zulum kaum te taah rahi hey, kar mudhi uh sarkar devo" Dear all i am removing my pic from this site, becoz many RSS people comes here, one of my friend is arrested by doing "kataad parchar" from any of this forum site. we dont want anyone should be in harm, we accomplish our task without any harm to anyone of us, in know we all can do this. May be guru has chosen all of us to do the seva for panth, this time is not to give lectures or hear lectures from anyone, we hve to take action, either anyone of u lead all of us for peoper planning. message for Non supporter to this forum, Heartly Thanks to all of us also :- prem Lion king For showing me true way of gurbani that sikhi is no revenge. Prem veer ji u think that i am professional killer, no i am not .... i am well educated working high technologies of IBM. I again highlight this point that i dont hate any community, i love to human beings, but i am not like pandit who can see the evil going around there and request to king to save there lives from evil. Khalsa is sant sipahi i.e Guru gobind singh ji says " Ran mey jayee na kabhoo paajey" Dhrid kar shatri, dhram suu gazee" I hve seen injustice happen with us, and i want revenge, congress guys has sent prime minister manmohan singh infront of sikhs for forgiveness of 1984 riots. Is the prime ministers sister or mother is raped or any guys is died in 1984 riots, if no then why he is saying that forgive all of them. I will live all this world if anyone or i kill and cut into pieces the body of sajjan kumar, jagdish tittler. One of u guys say that he will pay 25 laks if anyone kill this sajjan kumar and jagdish tittler ....wow wat a good spirit he is having i really respect his way of speaking. vaheguru always keep ur spirit like this, u r really very good. Our aim is to do the work hiddenly without anyone knowing, fulfull the task and enjoy the future if not died. we all will not join any group we all will be in a temporary group, do the task and forget everything. I think this reply is very big i will reply u all ... thanks again to : - khalsa force khalsa is spiritual mann kaum layee gurbaan budda singh ssm 10199 manchester sikhi uk singh 24 Guru Fateh
  14. Guru Fateh Thanks for all of ur co-operation about teaching that wat gurabni says. I think i came at wrong place, dear all friends i better know what gurabni says i am amratdhari sikh, buzy mostly in doing simran, nitnem and pothi saheb path. I know wat maharaj says that "Faridaa burey da palaa kar gussa man na haandaye" wat kalgidhar patshah says "manas ki jaat sab ekoo pehchanboo". every one is intrested in giving lectures by saying "veerji u r wrong" and also teaching wat gurbani says. I came here to become one not to create any organization, i am not intrested in destroying any religion, i am not hateing any religion, my theory is if any one gives u slap u give him 2 slap, by reading this many of us starts giving me lectures, i hate only those people of religion who hate our sikhi and trying to destroying I cant discuss more since i get an hint from this site that no one here will support u amrik, lets go and move to find other singhs. Giving gurbani's morals to me is very easy for all, but thinking like me and my friends are very different, how can u think that a amrathdari singh's doing kirtan, nitnem is interested in revenge, becoz we hold our self infront of that people ruined and think how they r feeling when a tyre is burnt on there head. Guru gobind singh formed khalsa as sant sipahi means khalsa is a true sant and if any probelm arises he/she is ready to fight like soldier for panth. Dear friends i am not like anger person, my mind is diverted automatically, i hve taken amrit when i am in 10th standard, but feeling of revenge is arised know, many knows everything wats happeining around but everyone is intrested in giving lectures, no youngster support will get, how u all can think that a person came here is not aware of wat gurabi says, how can u think that he is only a anger man, weather he/she knows gurbani more than u, but the only think he cannot ignore the injustice. Gurbani and maharaj only says "jin prem kiyo tin he prabh payeyoo", i am trying to mold ourself wat gurabi says but we also think wat happen with us and wat will happen in future. sadh sangat pul chuk maaf karna ....ees topic nu etheeey he baand kita jaavey. meri galti ki me tuhadey aagey aapney sachey dil di gaal sanjhi kiti. Guru Fateh
  15. Guru Fateh, To all peoples over here, i am new joiny to this site, my name is Amrik Singh, EXperience: IBM AIX adminstrator, qualifi.:- electronics engg. Guru fateh to all veers, i came here to need all of ur help and support, my purpose is not gain money, just revenge regarding riots at delhi. I put some picture on 1984 riots before i explain wat help is needed from u, During 1984 riots many sikh people, babies, females is being ruined out, sikh mens are burnt by putting tyre on there head, sikh babies/childs are burnt on stove or gas .... sikh females are raped, and most who left is put it into big building, this building is refered as "Randi bazaar". I hve written the main things that happen, by listening or hearing this any sikh's blood get warm, this riots are pre-planned by sajjan kumar jagdish tytler and many hindu-punjabi community guys. But my point none of us has came up to taken the revenge from this bloody RSS or hindus, we are all are well educated, well defined, and well managed people but what about revenge. Dear we all have to come up hiddenly and do the needful for our sikh panth, we young peple only can do this no one else. Writing and listening about 1984 is just become a fashion all of us just show some sorrowness then forget everything, wat about revenge, small brothers are killed sisters are raped........ If we all come togeather we can do much more, even no one can know whats happening. My main aim is to destroy hinduism and islam from everywhere they reside but this cant be fulfilled without all of ur help. Please support me my dear veers. Govt. of india previously is try to destroying sikhism by forcefully but know they doing something different i.e they are supporting punjbai music to come up more widely, seeing this bloody singer our 75 % of sikh mens and females has cut there hair, forgetting the truth of sacrifice given by our Guru's, Saheed singhs, saheed bibi's, saheed childs. Govt. has got success in there plan, RSS is planning to convert all sikh's to Hindus so that they all be pronounced as hindu only. " kalgi vaaleyaa teree school andaar , kalgi valeeya teree school andar aalaah too aalah padayi hovey, Na kisey din shutti na kisey // panvey "June" te panvey "July" hovey, eesey karkey mey vi sa dakhal hoyaa ,eesey karkey mey vi sa dakhal hoyaa Par jamat vich jakey dekhyaa ta padaan valyaa dee taddaa te sis koi naa" " Boleeey sooo nihaal sat sri akaal" "Tu puchaada hey ki sikhi heey , sikhi di raah niral heey, Ek sikh di sikhi da rakhaa ooh aap kalgiyaa valaa heey" Julmaa dee pathar tuut jaandey jaad panja laagey sikhi da, ethaas isdaa lamaa heey, kalmaa too jo nahi likhi da, Tatiyaa taviyaa tee jo bethi ooh dekhdi hey ooh sikhi heey" Khalsa ji plz comment to this forum topic, i just want to know all of ur suggestion, i know this many people of RSS are here i.e between us to know wats going on in the mind of sikh youngsters, but i dont afraid of anyone. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh Amrik Singh
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