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lol i didn't think you were, i think baburs empire only spread up to parts of central india

Guru Nanak says that god himself sent the mughals as the messenger of death. Was that because people of india had forgotten god? i guess god sent them as some kind of punishment ਖੁਰਾਸਾਨ ਖਸਮਾਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਹਿੰਦੁਸਤਾਨੁ ਡਰਾਇਆ ॥ Khuraasaan Khasamaanaa Keeaa Hindhusathaan Ddaraaeiaa || Having attacked Khuraasaan, Baabar terrified Hindustan. ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੧) (੩੯) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੦ ਪੰ. ੧੨ Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev ਆਪੈ ਦੋਸੁ ਨ ਦੇਈ ਕਰਤਾ ਜਮੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੁਗਲੁ ਚੜਾਇਆ ॥ Aapai Dhos N Dhaeee Karathaa Jam Kar Mugal Charraaeiaa || The Creator Himself does not take the blame, but has sent the Mugal as the messenger of death. ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੧) (੩੯) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੦ ਪੰ. ੧੨ Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev ਏਤੀ ਮਾਰ ਪਈ ਕਰਲਾਣੇ ਤੈਂ ਕੀ ਦਰਦੁ ਨ ਆਇਆ ॥੧॥ Eaethee Maar Pee Karalaanae Thain Kee Dharadh N Aaeiaa ||1|| There was so much slaughter that the people screamed. Didn't You feel compassion, Lord? ||1|| ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੧) (੩੯) ੧:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੦ ਪੰ. ੧੨ Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev

Guru Nanak Dev ji calls Babur a dog ਰਤਨ ਵਿਗਾੜਿ ਵਿਗੋਏ ਕੁਤੀ ਮੁਇਆ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਕਾਈ ॥ Rathan Vigaarr Vigoeae Kuthanaee Mueiaa Saar N Kaaee || This priceless country has been laid waste and defiled by dogs, and no one pays any attention to the dead. ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੧) (੩੯) ੨:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੬੦ ਪੰ. ੧੪ Raag Asa Guru Nanak Dev

I don't know much about Punjab during his era. But i guess south asia was far more populated and busy than where he came from. India in general is dusty ,earthy and rustic and the humidity dont help lol, And as for the people the vast majority have always been rural people and he probably came across the naked yogis and sadhus, gypsies, people with tattoos and piercings, poverty. in those days there were a lot of tribal people as well. 1000s of different clans with different customs and traditions. he probably never seen anything like it.

hardly surprising tbh ... some people have been passed around like an old newspaper you probably can catch something by just sitting nxt to them.

he didnt seem to like south asia very much, i guess it was his temptation for the wealth india offered that made him stay. even his tomb is in afghanistan “Hindustan is a place of little charm. There is no beauty in its people, no graceful social intercourse, no poetic talent or understanding, no etiquette, nobility or manliness. The arts and crafts have no harmony or symmetry. There are no good horses, meat, grapes, melons or other fruit. There is no ice, cold water, good food or bread in the markets. There are no baths and no schools. There are no candles, torches or even candlesticks.” his view on indian farming “In Agra, Chandawar and Bayana they irrigate by means of the bucket. This is a laborious and filthy method. A forked stick is raised next to a well and across the fork a pulley is fastened. A large bucket is tied to a long rope, which is thrown over the pulley. One end of the rope is tied to an ox. It takes one person to lead the ox and another to empty the water from the bucket. Every time the ox is led out to pull up the bucket and then led back, the rope is dragged through the ox’s path, which is sullied by ox urine and dung, and then falls back into the well. For some types of agriculture that need irrigation, water is carried in jars by men and women.”

Mughals were central asian origin, babur was from uzbekistan i think, mughals initially spoke some central asian language but later they adopted persian language and culture.

i really haven't heard anyone use the word sahai, maybe its used more in some regions than others. i mostly hear people say madat for help or sahara for support. so sahai means the helper ...

You can in a way say that the yugs are a internal battle as well. Just how you can make your home into swarg or narak. Have meat, sharab, swear words in your house with no Sikhi or respect for the gurus then you have created narak in your house. I read somewhere how in each yug the "battle" narrowed down, like in satyug the battles used to be between the gods and demons, massive battles in the universe between them and then in threta ram came down to earth and the battle was between two empires/kings ram vs ravaan and then in dwapar the battle was within the family and mahabharat took place between the kauravs and pandavs and now in kalyug the battle in within us a inner conflict between the vices and our soul/dharam

ਕਲਜੁਗੁ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਆ ਪਗ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਖਿਸਕੀਆ ਪਗੁ ਚਉਥਾ ਟਿਕੈ ਟਿਕਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥੪॥੪॥੧੧॥ Kalajug Har Keeaa Pag Thrai Khisakeeaa Pag Chouthhaa Ttikai Ttikaae Jeeo ||4||4||11|| The Lord ushered in the Dark Age, the Iron Age of Kali Yuga; three legs of religion were lost, and only the fourth leg remained intact. ||4||4||11|| ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੪) ਛੰਤ( ੧੧) ੪:੬ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੪੪੬ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Asa Guru Ram Das

ਚਾਰਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਕਰਿ ਥਾਪਨਾ ਸਤਿਜੁਗ ਤ੍ਰੇਤਾ ਦੁਆਪਰੁ ਸਾਜੇ। Chaari Jugi Kari Daapanaa Satijugu Traytaa Duaapar Saajay | The four Ages (yugs) were established and the first three were given names Satyug, Treta, Dvapar. Fourth one was Kaliyug. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੧ ਚਉਥਾ ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਥਾਪਿਆ ਚਾਰਿ ਵਰਨਿ ਚਾਰੋਂ ਕੇ ਰਾਜੇ। Chauthaa Kalijugu Daapiaa Chaari Varani Chaaron Kay Raajay | And four castes came to be known as the kings of four ages. Brahmin, kshatriya, vaishya and sudhra became predominate in each age. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੨ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਣ, ਛਤ੍ਰੀ, ਵੈਸ, ਸੂਦ੍ਰ, ਜੁਗੁ ਜੁਗੁ ਏਕੋ ਵਰਨ ਬਿਰਾਜੇ। Brahamani Chhatree Vaisi Soodri Jugu Jugu Ayko Varan Biraajay | In Satiyug, Vishnu is said to have come to earth as Hansavaar and explained the problems pertaining to ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੩ ਸਤਿਜੁਗਿ ਹੰਸ ਅਉਤਾਰੁ ਧਰਿ ਸੋਹੰ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ਪਾਜੇ। Satijugi Hansu Autaaru Dhari Sohan Brahamu N Doojaa Paajay | metaphysics (The story is there in the eleventh canto of the Bhagvat Purana), and nothing but one soham-Brahm was discussed and pondered upon. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੪ ਏਕੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ ਮੋਹ ਮਾਇਆ ਤੇ ਬੇਮੁਹਤਾਜੇ। Ayko Brahamu Vakhaaneeai Moh Maaiaa Tay Baymuhataajay | Getting indifferent to maya, people would praise one Lord. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੫ ਕਰਨਿ ਤਪਸਿਆ ਬਨਿ ਵਿਖੈ ਵਖਤ ਗੁਜਾਰਨਿ ਪਿੰਨੀ ਸਾਗੇ। Karani Tapasiaa Bani Vikhai Vakhatu Gujaarani Pinnee Saagay | They would go to forests and pull on life by eating natural vegetations. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੬ ਲਖ ਵਰ੍ਹਿਆ ਦੀ ਆਰਜਾ ਕੋਠੇ ਕੋਟਿ ਨ ਮੰਦਿਰ ਸਾਜੇ। lakh I Varhiaan Dee Aarajaa Kothhay Koti N Mandari Saajay | Though they lived for lacs of years but they would construct the palaces, forts and grand mansions. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੭ ਇਕ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਇਕ ਅਸਥਿਰੁ ਗਾਜੇ ॥੫॥ Ik Binasai Ik Asadiru Gaajay ||5 || On the one hand the world was passing away and on the other the life current would go stably. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੫ ਪੰ. ੮ ਤ੍ਰੇਤੇ ਛਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਧਰਿ ਸੂਰਜ ਬੰਸੀ ਵਡਿ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ। Traytay Chhatree Roop Dhari Sooraj Bansee Vadi Avataaraa | In Treta in the Sun-dynasty descended in the form of the kshatriya(Ram) a great incarnation. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੧ ਨਉ ਹਿਸੇ ਗਈ ਆਰਜਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਅਹੰਕਾਰੁ ਪਸਾਰਾ। Nau Hisay Gaee Aarajaa Maaiaa Mohu Ahankaaru Pasaaraa | Now the nine portions of age lessened and illusion,attachment and ego inflated. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੨ ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਜਾਦਵ ਵੇਸ ਕਰਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਅਉਧ ਘਟੈ ਆਚਾਰਾ। Duaapuri Jaadav Vans Kari Jugi Jugi Audh Ghatai Aachaaraa | In Dvapar, Yadav-dynasty came to the forefront i.e. the incarnation of Krsna became known to the people; but because of the lack of good conduct, Age by Age, the life span(of man) went on decreasing. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੩ ਰਿਗ ਬੇਦ ਮਹਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਪੂਰਬ ਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਭ ਕਰਮ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ। Rig Bayd Mahi Braham Kriti Poorab Mukhi Subh Karam Bichaaraa | In the Rgveda the conduct of the brahmin and the ideas about the actions done facing the East were discussed. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੫ ਖਤ੍ਰੀ ਥਾਪੇ ਜੁਜਰੁ ਵੇਦਿ ਦੇਖਣ ਮੁਖਿ ਬਹੁ ਦਾਨ ਦਾਤਾਰਾ। Khatree Daapay Jujaru Vaydi Daykhan Mukhi Bahu Daan Daataraa | Kshatriyas became related to the Yajurveda and started pouring charities while facing the South. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੫ ਵੈਸੋਂ ਥਾਪਿਆ ਸਿਆਮ ਵੇਦੁ ਪਛਮ ਮੁਖਿ ਕਰਿ ਸੀਸੁ ਨਿਵਾਰਾ। Vaison Daapiaa Siaam Vaydu Pachhamu Mukhi Kari Seesu Nivaaraa | The vaishyas embraced the Samaveda and bowed to the West. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੬ ਰਿਗਿ ਨੀਲੰਬਰਿ ਜੁਜਰ ਪੀਤ ਸ੍ਵੇਤੰਬਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਸਿਆਮ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ। Rigi Neelabari Jujar Peet Saytanbari Kari Siaam Sudhaaraa | Blue dress for Rgveda, yellow for Yajurveda and for singing of the hymns of Samaveda wearing of the white dress became a tradition. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੭ ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਧਰਮ ਉਚਾਰਾ ॥੬॥ Trihu Jugee Trai Dharam Uchaaraa ||6 || Thus three duties of the three Ages were enunciated. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੬ ਪੰ. ੮ ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਚਉਥਾ ਥਾਪਿਆ ਸੂਦ੍ਰ ਬਿਰਤਿ ਜਗ ਮਹਿ ਵਰਤਾਈ। Kalijugu Chauthaa Daapiaa Soodr Birati Jag Mahi Varataaee | Kalijug became prevalent as the fourth age in which the low instincts gripped the whole world. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੧ ਕਰਮ ਸੁ ਰਿਗਿ ਜੁਜਰ ਸਿਆਮ ਕੇ ਕਰੇ ਜਗਤੁ ਰਿਦਿ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਕਚਾਈ। Karam Su Rigi Jujar Siaam Kay Karay Jagatu Ridi Bahu Sukachaaee | People became resultant in performing of the duties enjoined in the Rig, Yajur and Samaveda. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੨ ਮਾਹਿਆ ਮੋਹੀ ਮੇਦਨੀ ਕਲਿ ਕਲਿ ਵਾਲੀ ਸਭਿ ਭਰਮਾਈ। Maaiaa Mohee Maydanee Kali Kalivaalee Sabhi Bharamaaee | The entire earth got enticed by mammon and the antics of the Kalijug put everyone into delusion. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੩ ਉਠੀ ਗਿਲਾਨਿ ਜਗਤ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਜਲੈ ਲੁਕਾਈ। Uthhee Gilaani Jagatri Vichi Haumai Andari Jalai Lukaaee | Hatred and degeneracy engrossed the people and ego burnt oneand all. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੪ ਕੋਇ ਨਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਪੂਜਦਾ ਊਚ ਨੀਚ ਸਭਿ ਗਤਿ ਬਿਸਰਾਈ। Koi N Kisai Poojadaa Ooch Neech Sabhi Gati Bisaraaee | Nobody now worships anyone and the sense of respect for the younger and elder has vanished into thin air. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੫ ਭਏ ਬਿਅਦਲੀ ਪਾਤਸਾਹ ਕਲਿ ਕਾਤੀ ਉਮਰਾਇ ਕਸਾਈ। Bhaay Biadalee Paatsaah Kali Kaatee Umaraai Kasaaee | In this cutter age the emporers are tyrants and their satraps butchers. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੬ ਰਹਿਆ ਤਪਾਵਸੁ ਤ੍ਰਿਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਚਉਥੇ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੋ ਦੇਇ ਸੁ ਪਾਈ। Rahiaa Tapaavasu Trihu Jugee Chauday Jugi Jo Dayi Su Paaee | The justice of three ageshas become extinct and now whosoever gives something (as bribe) gets (justice?). ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੭ ਕਰਮ ਭ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਸਭਿ ਭਈ ਲੋਕਾਈ ॥੭॥ Karam Bhrisati Sabhi Bhaee |okaaee ||7 || The mankind has become wanting in dexterity of action. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੭ ਪੰ. ੮

Iv seen puratan shastar with akaal sahai carved onto them I saw some in london. I thought akal sahai means gods support...

Bani says we are in kalyug

LOL yh delhi punjabi is ugly! No offence to delhi walle. Something really irritating and annoying about it as well ! And too many hindi words mixed in it. They speak it really fast as well. Earthy rustic rural punjabi is the best. I recently briefly worked with this afghan sikh and I found his punjabi really annoying aswell! At times it was so irritating that it was deafening! Interesting while we were talking about the punjabi language he said to me that I speak the proper punjabi.

air india is in trouble i think people are bidding for it

Thanks coz iv heard about people shaking but never heard about ears popping so I thought maybe I was doing something wrong

Nri Punjabi marries a dalit slum dweller.

Might sound shallow but with youngsters today I think a lot is to do with whose doing the parchar. If the person is younger 20s 30s dresses well, good looking, has charisma then that probabaly works better among youngsters. Also they need to speak in a way that young people can relate to, if you speak the queens english and use fancy words or talk like a uncle then these youngsters will lose concentration fast, you need to sound a bit more common. Need to dress normal as well or wear bana wearing a checked shirt or jumper ain't gnna work. Person doing parchar needs to have an edge and be relatable. Also if you have a bit of a past, messed around abit and then came on the right path that will make it more relatable, people like hearing these stories.

Like the ears popping, it kind of hurts sometimes.

HAHAHA so true tho Do you remember new bharat coaches? When we were kids My sister sat on the floor one yr because there were no seats left lol driver took less money.

lol iv been in turkmenistan and uzbekistan many times haha! and then a 4 hour stay in their countries lol worst thing is they dont have tv screens in the planes! jet airways was good much better than air india, one yr we went direct from heathrow to amritsar, but then they cancelled that route and eventually i think the airline became domestic only. flights to delhi are annoying because its 8 hrs in the plane and then another 8hrs in the car from delhi to home! which is just torture last time i went it was air india, heathrow to delhi and then a flight from delhi to amritsar and then a 3 hr drive from amritsar to home! felt half dead by the end of it, really exhausting they should open a airport in jalandhar

air india they even give the better looking air hostesses to 1st class while economy get the fat ones, its true. Not that i care but it shows that their mentality is something else.

interesting channel interviewing drug addicts, alcoholics, gang members, pimps, prostitutes, homeless people etc i really feel sorry for these people, most of them ended up the way they did because they were neglected as children and had abusive parents. channel states that the aim of the videos is to see why people behave the way they do and why this kind of behavior exists in society.

They are very rude, and it's as if they deliberately are being rude. None of them are from the uk, I think they have been flown in from India to work at these Visa places. The woman I had was so rude and had a nasty attitude, i got pissed off and turned my plastic wallet with the papers in upside down in front of her and the papers fell out and went all over her desk and she had to gather them up Lol I know that's rude but she was being a sh1t I really lost my cool with her.