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  1. FreshMind13


    I'm honestly surprised how easily people believe heresay and malarkey. It's the conspiracy theorists who think that Singh Sabha turned Sikhi into some Abhramic thing. Anyone who properly reads Gurbani and does Khoj and Vichaar with Gursikhs knows Sikhi is nothing like Abrahamic Religions. At the time, we had great Gursikhs like Sant Gurbachan Singh Khalsa Bhindrawale, Sant Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji, Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Rampur, and countless others. Modern SGPC as we all know are Badal de Chamche. Sadly, I rather have SGPC Mahants over the pre-Singh Sabha Mahants.
  2. Just wanna let people know that this is a missionary site, unless I am wrong.
  3. Singh, you could have gotten a free Wildcard LetsEncrypt Certificate. Challo, at least our logins are secure now (I Hope)
  4. Well Sadly, this is the case. No current printed saroop is the same as the Damdami Birh. These we're not Ram Raiye who made these mistakes while copying Saroops. They had no intent to change the meanings, it just that they introduced many human mistakes while copying. The worst offenders, sadly, are the artistic saroops written during the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Sure these saroops look very nice and are artistic, but most were written by scribes who didn't have Gurbani Vidhya. I am referring to the various Lagamatra differences. Another sad this is when panthic scholars try to study Puratan saroops, they are labeled Ram Raiye when in truth they are doing in Good faith to make Gurbani Shudh as possible to the Damdami Birhh. Books like Paath Beedan Di Sochi by Gyani Gyan Singh Nihung is one example, but because people don't have interest, the book is out of print. If you are interested in this topic, that book is somewhere on Punjab Digital Library, it shows various variations in Puratan saroops.
  5. Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Parkash is disputed between 3 Dates Friday, Katak Sudi 15 Pooranmashi, 1526 Bikrami (Lunar) Saturday, Vaisakh Sudi 3, 1526 Bikrami (Lunar) (Not Pooranmashi) Monday, 1 Vaisakh, 1526 Bikrami (Solar Date) (Pooranmashi) There is debate on this issue, I recommend reading the document mentioned in the OP. Also PLS, Benti for everyone, when referring to Gurpuabs, pls use Bikrami or Mool Nanakshahi (Which are basically Bikrami dates) dates, don't use English dates as they are not accurate as the original. We need more people to start using Desi Months and days, Barah Maha Parro!
  6. Serious question though, how would one use a Dori Kirpan practically? Like how would it be used? I think thats why some people say its just for show because maybe you can't use it well? I wouldn't know.
  7. Oh, I see, sorry for the misunderstanding. I think you are referring to the corrections to the actual Manglacharans themselves, right? I don't know what agenda SGPC had, but technically, that general idea was also supported by scholars. If you do Sehaj Paath or Akhand Paath, you will notice even in today's printed saroops that there is a general rule: Full Mool Mantar Manglacharan when a new Raag starts. Small Manglacharan when the Mehla or the Ghar changes. If there was a Manglacharan, the Raag + Mahala would start with ਰਾਗੁ. These are more noticable in early Puratan Birs. It's really interesting when you get into this, but it's a really big grey area. This also reminds me that there was once 3 Singhs who came up to Talwara Ji and claimed he was changing Gurbani. He requested that they come into a room with a Chalk board. After the end of the day, the Singhs left with no doubt in thier minds. These were done by scholars with good intentions and good faith. I'm just trying to show the other side of the argument, trying to explain the context behind it.
  8. Stay safe from the Burning Hot Sarabloh Tava, will turn your face into a nice crisp Roti to put Gheo on.
  9. In Bhai Gurdaas Ji's First Vaar, he says: Bhai Gurdaas Ji says ਵਿਸੋਆ (Vaisakhi). This can be taken as the Parkash of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji. This also makes sense as Bhai Gurdaas Ji is talking the topic of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji being Pargat (ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਆ). If you had read the document linked, it was also Pooranmashi on that day (1 Vaisakh, 1526 BK). In Bhai Gurdaas Ji's Kabit Swaiye, he says: How can Bhai Gurdaas Ji go agaisnt himself? Personally, I still celebrate on Katak Pooranmashi due to the Panth's Decision, but I do believe that it can be possible that Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj could have been Parkash on Vaisakhi.
  10. Yes, Guru Sahib penned them on top. If you look at early Birhs of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, they all have them on top generally with the rule I had mentioned. They were not mixed, bottomed, and centered how they are like current saroops and senchyia printed today by printers. I don't care about the SGPC, but please don't call scholars like Bhai Randhir Singh (Scholar), Gyani Gyan Singh Ji Nihung, Nihang Naurang Singh (One who standarized Sarabloh Granth), Bhai Joginder Singh Vedanti, and Bhai Joginder Singh Talwara as lacking knowledge on Sikhi. They have spent more time studying Puratan Saroops than all of us.
  11. Please don't take this is a bad way, this had nothing to do with money. This was done by demands from Sikh Scholars, literally most early Birhs from the 1700's have the Manglacharans on top. There is a standard rule, the Manglacharan would be on the right side, while the raag + mahala would be on the left side (but still lower than the Manglacharan). If you look at very old saroops, you can see this system present. Slowly it went away as more "artistic" birhs started being scribed. Please don't bring in other un-releared issues pls.
  12. Exactly, there would have been no controversy over Manglacharans being on top or bottom, over missing or added lagamatras, and other human mistakes introduced by Saroop copiers over the centuries. There have been many people who have claimed to have the Damdami Birh, but most of them were never verified and are fake claims.
  13. @Akalifauj I recommend you re-read SinghFauja's post again.
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