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  1. Lol Thankfully, Guru Sahib has given Maryada of only Grihast Gursikhs (married, never divorced/remarried) to do seva in Panj.
  2. The author (Guru Sahib) is going katha of the Charitar. Guru Sahib isn't literally saying to get a green cup, neither is Guru Sahib talking to Saki. I will look into the Fatehnama, but the example you have given seems to be from the mangal/sirlekh, not the actual text. Sirlekhs can be interpolated.
  3. Sanatanis and their wrong arths if Sri Dasam Granth. These people are doing beadbi of Guru Sahib with their wrong arths. First of all, Krishnaavtaar is katha. It is not meant as a spiritual guide. In that story, Bhrigu Rishi was against alcohol because of the 'Kach' incident. But in this case, after the Yudh, the wine given to Krishan was from Brahma. This has nothing to do with it being allowed or not, but it is just a point Guru Gobind Singh Ji added to that story, as it is a Katha. Frankly, I believe we should boycott these Sanatanis just like we boycott Missionaries. They do the same wrong arths, but arrive at different conclusions.
  4. ਰਸਾਵਲ ਛੰਦ ॥ RASAAVAL STANZA ਨ ਜਟਾ ਮੁੰਡਿ ਧਾਰੌ ॥ ਨ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਕਾ ਸਵਾਰੌ ॥ I neither wear matted hair on the head nor bedeck myself with ear-rings. ਜਪੋ ਤਾਸ ਨਾਮੰ ॥ ਸਰੈ ਸਰਬ ਕਾਮੰ ॥੫੧॥ I meditate on the Name of the Lord, which helps me in all my errands.51. (ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ, ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ) ਜਟਾ ਨ ਸੀਸ ਧਾਰਿਹੌ ॥ ਨ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਕਾ ਸੁ ਧਾਰਿਹੌ ॥ I do not wear matted hair on my head, nor do I put rings in my ears. ਨ ਕਾਨਿ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਕੀ ਧਰੋ ॥ ਕਹਿਯੋ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁ ਮੈ ਕਰੋ ॥੩੬॥ I do not pay attention to anyone else, all my actions are at the bidding of the Lord.36. (ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ, ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ) ਪੁਨਿ ਹਰਿ ਗੋਰਖ ਕੋ ਉਪਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਸਿਖ ਕਰੇ ਤਿਨ ਹੂ ਬਡ ਰਾਜਾ ॥ Then I created Gorakh, who made great kings his disciples. ਸ੍ਰਵਨ ਫਾਰਿ ਮੁਦ੍ਰਾ ਦੁਐ ਡਾਰੀ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਰੀਤਿ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੀ ॥੨੪॥ His disciples wear rings in their ears and do not know the love of the lord.24. (ਬਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ, ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ) We also need to take into consideration: ਪਰਥਾਇ ਸਾਖੀ ਮਹਾ ਪੁਰਖ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਸਾਝੀ ਸਗਲ ਜਹਾਨੈ ॥ Great men speak the teachings by relating them to individual situations, but the whole world shares in them. (ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ - ਗੁਰੂ ਅਮਰਦਾਸ ਜੀ - ਅੰਗ ੬੪੭, ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ) So even if Guru Sahib was speaking about the Yogis, it applies universally.
  5. Instead of trying to find a true painting or photo of Guru Sahib, should focus on doing Naam Abhyiaas to get darshan of dashmesh pita, like many mahapurakhs have done.
  6. ਤਤਕਰਾ = Table of Contents ਭੂਮਿਕਾ = Introduction --- ਭ: ਚੱਤਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀਵਨ ਸਿੰਘ = Bhai Chattar Singh Bhai Jeevan Singh (name of Publishing House in Amritsar)
  7. https://web.archive.org/web/20190301132743/http://www.searchsikhism.com/ Internet Archive is your friend.
  8. Bro, you cannot be this ignorant. Those groups you mentioned are the ones who keep stopping women from doing keertan. Dhumma Taksal threw a fit when Punjab Government recommended Bibyan be allowed to do seva. SGPC had already made a decision to allow bibyan to do keertan seva in 1940, and Sri Akal Takht Sahib reaffirmed it in 1996.
  9. They are a bunch of fakes. Wannabe nihungs, but are sanatani. They do wrong arths of Dasam Baani just like missionaries do to support their views.
  10. WhatsApp Video 2020-06-06 at 8.34.16 PM.mp4 I was never really fully convinced on Brahm Kavach, but he is saying Uggardanti too? What will Dhumma supporters say now?
  11. Agree with everything except the last point. That "person" is Jathedar Ranjit Singh of Takht Sri Patna Sahib, he is also shown in the video from @ADMIN
  12. Not sure about that in Purewal's case man. In an interview he mentioned he used to have Sri Guru Granth Sahib parkash at his house and did 2 annual sehaj paath shaibs annually with his wife (his words not mine). He also said he used to for many years do akhand paath roul seva at his local gurdwara. The real ppl trying to kill Sikhi are the nastiks dressed up as Sikhs.
  13. I saw a video on Facebook where Makhu was with the Jathedar of Patna Sahib. Apparently he was forgiven and said his views had changed from 4 years ago. Otherwise, Makhu is weird. His tone of talking seems egoistic (dunno how to describe it).
  14. I am not someone to clean up someones image, but I know two facts about Pal Singh Purewal: - Probably a decade ago, a Singh in our local area found Purewal's phone number. He called him and asked him why he is against Sri Dasam Granth. Purewal's reply was that if he ever spoke against Sri Dasam Granth, he is ready to have his head chopped off. (In Punjabi, he had said: ਮੇਰਾ ਸਿਰ ਵੱਢ ਦਿਉ) - Purewal has admitted he did not want to publish his book at one point during its manuscript phase because his calculated results did not match with Sri Dasam Granth. (He explains this in the preface of the English translation of Guru Kian Sakhian) So yea, maybe he is taking the politically correct way out. He is not the same as nastiks like Dhadri and neo-missionaries.
  15. Huh? What kind of rumor is this? There is no doctored version of SGGS Ji. How is such a thing even possible? What? It is law in Punjab that only SGPC can print saroops. Again, where are these rumors coming from?
  16. The document is dated Magh Vadi 11/18 Magh - Nanakshahi 409, Bikrami 1934. Indeed this date matches: Magh Vadi 11 was also 18 Magh in that year. The English date for this Hukamnama is: Tuesday, January 29, 1878 C.E. Whoever typed up the Hukamnama gave the wrong year 1877 C.E. This also proves Nanakshahi Sammat was used in history and is not a modern invention.
  17. Yes, Gurbani is ਸੁਤੰਤਰ from any wordly grammer or poetry system. Ones who say that Gurbani is beyond Viyakaran, make a purely emotional statement without any backup. Everything that Waheguru does is perfect and under divine rules made by Waheguru. Similarly, ਧੁਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ too is constraint by not some worldly grammar rules but by the unique and divine grammatical rules. You are free to have your opinion, Guru Sahib knows best. For other readers, I'll be sharing a short article by Jathedar Joginder Singh Vedanti on Vyaakaran:
  18. There are different types of "Missionaries". 1. SGPC Missionary Colleges - Run by SGPC to train pracharaks. (Though, no one really refers to them as Missionaries) 2. Classical Missionaries - Respected in the Panth. Likes include Prof. Sahib Singh who did Teeka of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Dasam Baani. (They used to be called Missionaries, but they aren't anymore) ------- 3. Neo-missionaries - Whenever someone says someone is a "Missionary" today, it usually means this. They have been described well by @Sikhi4Ever
  19. No my point was that in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj, Ashtpaddi refers to a Shabad that has 8 or more paddas. Here is an example of an Ashtpadi with 12 ਪਦੇ, made up of ਚਉਤੁਕੇ, and the ending one is a ਛੇਤੁਕਾ: ੴ ਸਤਿ ਗੁਰਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ ਸਾਰਗ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਅਸਟਪਦੀ ਘਰੁ ੬ ॥ ਅਗਮ ਅਗਾਧਿ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਜਨ ਕਥਾ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕੀ ਅਚਰਜ ਸਭਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਨਮਸਕਾਰ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਇ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ ਮਨ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਰਗਾਸੁ ॥ ਗਿਆਨ ਅੰਜਨੁ ਅਗਿਆਨ ਬਿਨਾਸੁ ॥੧॥ ਮਿਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਾ ਕਾ ਬਿਸਥਾਰੁ ॥ ਸੋਭਾ ਤਾ ਕੀ ਅਪਰ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਰੰਗ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਗਨੇ ਨ ਜਾਹਿ ॥ ਸੋਗ ਹਰਖ ਦੁਹਹੂ ਮਹਿ ਨਾਹਿ ॥੨॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਬੇਦ ਧੁਨਿ ਕਰਹਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਮਹੇਸ ਬੈਸਿ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਧਰਹਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਪੁਰਖ ਅੰਸਾ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਊਭੇ ਦਰਬਾਰ ॥੩॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਪਵਨ ਪਾਵਕ ਅਰੁ ਨੀਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਰਤਨ ਸਾਗਰ ਦਧਿ ਖੀਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਸੂਰ ਸਸੀਅਰ ਨਖਿਆਤਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਦੇਵੀ ਦੇਵਾ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਂਤਿ ॥੪॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਬਸੁਧਾ ਅਨਿਕ ਕਾਮਧੇਨ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਪਾਰਜਾਤ ਅਨਿਕ ਮੁਖਿ ਬੇਨ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਅਕਾਸ ਅਨਿਕ ਪਾਤਾਲ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਮੁਖੀ ਜਪੀਐ ਗੋਪਾਲ ॥੫॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਪੁਰਾਨ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਹੋਵਤ ਬਖਿਆਨ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਸਰੋਤੇ ਸੁਨਹਿ ਨਿਧਾਨ ॥ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਅ ਪੂਰਨ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥੬॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਧਰਮ ਅਨਿਕ ਕੁਮੇਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਬਰਨ ਅਨਿਕ ਕਨਿਕ ਸੁਮੇਰ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਸੇਖ ਨਵਤਨ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੇਹਿ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਤੇਹਿ ॥੭॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਪੁਰੀਆ ਅਨਿਕ ਤਹ ਖੰਡ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਰੂਪ ਰੰਗ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਬਨਾ ਅਨਿਕ ਫਲ ਮੂਲ ॥ ਆਪਹਿ ਸੂਖਮ ਆਪਹਿ ਅਸਥੂਲ ॥੮॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਜੁਗਾਦਿ ਦਿਨਸ ਅਰੁ ਰਾਤਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਪਰਲਉ ਅਨਿਕ ਉਤਪਾਤਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਜੀਅ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ ਰਮਤ ਰਾਮ ਪੂਰਨ ਸ੍ਰਬ ਠਾਂਇ ॥੯॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਮਾਇਆ ਜਾ ਕੀ ਲਖੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਕਲਾ ਖੇਲੈ ਹਰਿ ਰਾਇ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਧੁਨਿਤ ਲਲਿਤ ਸੰਗੀਤ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਗੁਪਤ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੇ ਤਹ ਚੀਤ ॥੧੦॥ ਸਭ ਤੇ ਊਚ ਭਗਤ ਜਾ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ॥ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਰੰਗਿ ॥ ਅਨਿਕ ਅਨਾਹਦ ਆਨੰਦ ਝੁਨਕਾਰ ॥ ਉਆ ਰਸ ਕਾ ਕਛੁ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਰ ॥੧੧॥ ਸਤਿ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਸਤਿ ਅਸਥਾਨੁ ॥ ਊਚ ਤੇ ਊਚ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਨਿਰਬਾਨੁ ॥ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਆਪਿ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਬਿਆਪਿ ॥ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਦਇਆਲ ॥ ਜਿਨਿ ਜਪਿਆ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਭਏ ਨਿਹਾਲ ॥੧੨॥੧॥੨॥੨॥੩॥੭॥ (ਅੰਗ ੧੨੩੫)
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