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Who cares what they think. Again, shallow.

What a ridiculous post. These women are not walking around naked. Humans have far too much time to try and find silly faults with others and judge them rather than focus on their own paths. This is the reason why hardly anyone is living in a state of Jivan mukht. Post Modern Nihlism of the west? What about the women wearing the tiniest saris in the east? You’re living in the past and you have a very Islamic mindset. A lot of people on here do. Materialistic and shallow, judging the external so harshly and unfairly. You claim not to be part of the false and shallow Image Obsessed society, but you’re deep down stuck in it.

Nice post. However, how much skin are these women really showing, and are you the Guru to dictate what they do. Humans are free to do what they want. Obviously walking around in a bra and nickers is wrong. But dictating that women cover their arms and legs etc, is wrong. That’s a very Muslim way of thinking. Women in India have historically worn Tiny saris etc. And who cares what they do. There is taking it too far Ie walking around in your underwear, and there isn’t. But the internal rehit is just as important. Guru Ji wasn’t saying cover up completely, he was saying don’t walk around in your undergarments.

No educate yourself by reading sakhis and gurbani. Put the effort in to learn what you don’t understand independently. It’s your path and yours alone. The gyan is there for your taking, served to you on a plate by the Gurus.

What a ridiculous, sexist post. Have you even reread what you’ve just written? Some people on here are unbelievably sexist. You’re turning Sikhi into a form of Islam. Grow up and understand that men and women are equal. You clearly don’t see women as your sisters. Control your own lust and shortcomings. I’m tired of trying to reason with insecure sexist men on here, it’s such a waste of time and energy. Carry and and learn as it’s willed for you to learn. Good luck.

I literally give up with you. Go back and reread your posts, what you say about women, the derogatory comments you make. Then read the Granth one more time, come back and tell me that external appearance means anything. You’re living in an illusion of image as opposed to internal purity. You twist gurbani to serve your chauvinistic, sexist beliefs.

Read the passage I posted about totally covering yourself. You really need to evolve spiritually and stop being shallow. I’ve read the entire Granth sahib several times. Time and time again, it says that we take nothing with us. About internal purity regardless of your external state. But fanatics like you put a Muslim And sexist twist on it. I’m nit taking it personally. Your ignorance and sexist views, disrespect for women, and beliefs just baffle me.

Did you not read the part about clothes not going with you in the end and being burned to ashes. The same goes for all clothes including burkas and full length clothing as you dictate, as well as the human body shell. Symbolism that nothing goes with us. It’s the Soul that goes forth. Hence, the internal purity that matters. Pur kar kā▫i▫ā kapaṛ pahirā ḏẖovā saḏā kār. I may totally cover my body with clothes, and wash them continually; ਬਗਾ ਰਤਾ ਪੀਅਲਾ ਕਾਲਾ ਬੇਦਾ ਕਰੀ ਪੁਕਾਰ ॥ बगा रता पीअला काला बेदा करी पुकार ॥ Bagā raṯā pī▫alā kālā beḏā karī pukār. I may shout out loud, the white, red, yellow and black Vedas; ਹੋਇ ਕੁਚੀਲੁ ਰਹਾ ਮਲੁ ਧਾਰੀ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਵਿਕਾਰ ॥ होइ कुचीलु रहा मलु धारी दुरमति मति विकार ॥ Ho▫e kucẖīl rahā mal ḏẖārī ḏurmaṯ maṯ vikār. I may even live in dirt and filth. And yet, all this is just a product of evil-mindedness, and intellectual corruption. ਨਾ ਹਉ ਨਾ ਮੈ ਨਾ ਹਉ ਹੋਵਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ना हउ ना मै ना हउ होवा नानक सबदु वीचारि ॥१॥ Nā ha▫o nā mai nā ha▫o hovā Nānak sabaḏ vīcẖār. ||1|| I was not, I am not, and I will never be anything at all! O Nanak, I dwell only on the Word of the Shabad. ||1|| Kabīr parīṯ ik si▫o kī▫e ān ḏubiḏẖā jā▫e. Kabeer, when you are in love with the One Lord, duality and alienation depart. ਭਾਵੈ ਲਾਂਬੇ ਕੇਸ ਕਰੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਘਰਰਿ ਮੁਡਾਇ ॥੨੫॥ भावै लांबे केस करु भावै घररि मुडाइ ॥२५॥ Bẖāvai lāʼnbe kes kar bẖāvai gẖarar mudā▫e. ||25|| You may have long hair, or you may shave your head bald. ||25||

Goodness. It also says that man can shave his head or have his hair unshaved, it makes no difference. Grow up and stop being so shallow and understand that your outer appearance doesn’t mean or make you shite. It’s the internal that matters. All truly spiritual people know that. That passage is telling you that Clothes do not matter, they don’t go with you in the end whether you’re fully covered or not. You understand what suits you and twist gurbani to your own needs as so many in the world do. Gurbani doesn’t change just because you twist it. Truth is Truth. We come alone with Nothing, we go with Nothing. No clothes, no money, no human body, no nothing. Just the immaterial Soul. Get your own house in order first and let others walk their own path without trying to control. Control yourself first.

We’re already merged with Him. We just need to remember and accept it. We are Truth, He’s us and We’re Him.

It’s the Primal Sound. When you go deep into samadhi.. and sit in Our Origin, it goes silent. Silence is our origin. There’s nothing there, only a frequency beyond the mortal comprehension.

Lol. They are beings with a soul too. Animals can also sense the Truth presence as we can.

The Gurus taught people from all walks of life. They never imposed anything on anyone. They respected Freedom of Choice. Had they had the mentality of only teaching certain people wearing a certain type of clothing, India may well have been overtaken by the Moghuls and the preservation of SGGSJi may never have been possible.. and not many people would have been taught the beautiful gyan that was taught. Guru Nanak travelled far and wide. Unfortunately, many fanatical Sikhs have twisted the teachings to their liking and have become highly judgemental and selective, thinking the gyan and the Bhagti path to belong to them solely, sometimes only based on their external dress. A very shallow and Egoistic way of practicing gurbani. This is called ego of seva, or trishna, and is where many fall off the path.

What right have you got to call a woman a hoochie. How do you know she sleeps around and what her daily actions are. She could be a good soul. You judge on the external and forget the internal state of others which reflects your probable neglect of your own internal state. Half of these woman may have acted in more civilized ways than you and never called a woman or a man a slapper or a Hussie or judged people so quickly before working on their own thieves first. It’s people like you who are fanatical and begin to mirror the Muslim mentality that women are objects who’s external appearance defines who they are. Who cares what they look like. And why would any woman take advice from you when you use such derogatory terms for women based on their appearance. How fickle, materialistic and shallow can a human be to judge based on that. Do you really think if the Gurus were walking in the earth now, that they would have said what you’ve just said.. The great souls who taught equality and respect of women.

Your real test is looking past the external appearance, because it means nothing. The internal appearance is just as important. Guru Gobind Singh Ji dressed as a Prince, and yet had the heart of one with Nothing. The very fact that these issues upset you so much, show there’s something wrong with you. A man wearing tight clothing will also attract attention to himself. But if I’m in a Gurdwarra and a man in tight clothing walks in, my first reaction is to have No reaction. Because I’d see him as a brother. A woman in tight clothing, you should see as a Sister. Any woman, a prostitute, a dancer, Beyoncé. Sister. Other than your partner. The reason being that we are All Gods kids and he loves us Equally. If he didn’t, the prostitute wouldn’t wake up in the morning. He’d deprive her of the sun, her clothes, her life. But He Is everyone everything everywhere, as much as you don’t want to see or acknowledge it. Until you stop seeing women as Objects of desire, you will never evolve your psychology or see females with an equal eye as the Gurus did. The fault is with the men who fantasize sexually... and women’s envy. The entire Middle East covers up for your reasoning, that men supposedly have no self control. How is that the woman’s problem. The Gurus spoke out against sexism, not condone and encourage it. Control your Own lust, evolve your own psychology and move forward on your Own path.

I’ve already reported you to admin for trolling. Go and find someone else to cyber stalk. You obviously do not have a life, very obsessive and it’s quite disturbing.

Someone may think that you’re one if you haven’t got your theif of lust in check.

I’ve also seen men who sleep their way to the top and wear tight clothes to work. Who.re isn’t a term just reserved for women In society, nor is it a polite or civilized term which should ever be used. It’s a sexist term used by Primitive souls, both make and female. Ganika was a prostitute and look how she turned out. You cannot force Gods will or Hukam.. everything is as he’s willed it, who are you to judge it.. or to judge his children when everyone is walking on their own path as they deserve to. Judge and work on Yourself First.

Have you ever worn a tight top or vest and shorts of said the same of a Sikh man wearing a tight top or a vest and shorts? Do you not think that women (And maybe men) ogle over you when you do or perve on a man who does that same? Would you say it’s their fault and that they brought it on by wearing such clothing, even if it was 35 degrees out and they didn’t want to cover up? Or would you say that the people doing the ogling are at fault for not focusing on their own lives and journey and working to live free of the thieves as per the teachings of Gurbani Are you yourself perfect and in any place to judge another human being and have you put in the effort to change yourself and live free of the theieves?

Plenty of Sikh guys who wear tight tops and shorts. And no one calls them slags. There is No Difference. Humans are Free to do and wear what they want. The external doesn’t determine the internal state. Who are you to judge.

A good and sensible post. This thread reminds me of the Muslim rule for women to cover up because they assume that men can not control themselves. What’s it to anyone else what anyone wears. You can have an amritshak woman who is fully covered who’s actions are demonic, and a woman who dresses how you perceive to be inappropriately but who’s actions are angelic. Judge yourself and work on yourself before judging others

Lucky thing she didn’t talk to you, a guy who calls a woman a slag just because she didn’t speak to you. What a ridiculous post

I know a guy who makes a lot of money who’s in samadhi continuously. Doesn’t matter what you do

The first part of that is good. You should mass send this out to everyone you know on Facebook etc

Just be a good person, practice Gurbani and don’t hurt others. People should be good because it’s the right thing to do, not for the fear of hell.