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Yeah I'm saying that was when I was young I think baba ji reconciled with rest of panth during gurgaddi of guru raam das ji maharaj when he realized why These four were inheritors of gurgaddi as he witnessed guru raam das jis humility He was given 700 rupees as bhentaa by guru sahib when he got to amritsar (I think it was amritsar guru ki nagari) and they had a discourse Baba ji knew guru raam das ji possessed immense brahm gian but wanted to test them, so he asked why he kept such a long beard to which guru sahib replied to dust off babaji feet and as he was about to receive his feet, babaji picked him up and embraced guru sahib (maybe in tears if I remember correctly)

Too controversial? Lol

Any reference to it being referred to as mahalia 1 veerji? I recently took a look at sikhiwiki page on guru angads bani and angel 8, salok japuji is vrajimaan Although I see some incoherence as some versions of sakhi state bhai Jodha recited asa di vaar and japji every morning when bhai lehna (guru angad) heard him and began yearning for shabad and guru But lots of people agree that guru angad/bhai lehna in his 6 or 7 years of sewa at kartarpur, was entrusted with duty of complaining a morning bani and he took his time taking authentic dhur ki bani Some say this is why japji is rough and uneven in terms of poetic metre, because guru angad left it completely unchanged without metre and was straight mukhvaak and flowing from guru nanak dev ji maharaj Something like that lol

My nanimaa told me about this saki when I was young So I guess mainstream sikhs believe in it (although mainstream sikhs belie bc e in a lot of stuff lol) Personally, I am a bit apprehensive of the sikhi, even if it were true it doesnt pose much importance to gurmat or sikhi in general in my neech opinion

Even since my younger years, I didnt think of udasis much I just knew they were excommunicated and that baba Sri chand was egotistic and anti sikh at first back when I was little but looks like they weren't like that They are right now the most diluted sampardayi right now, I don't even have hope for them unlike the nirmalas

I have had this theory for some while it is harder to abstain nowadays because we get married so late (into our 30s, or perhaps late twenties at best) back in the day Id be a father by 17 lol not a excuse, just a interesting thought it was also easier to control kaam towards others because good chances were, you were betrothed after age of 12

yeah I once used that point in a argument with some osho bhagat (from a sikh family) who said derogatory remarks on the other gurus, claiming guru nanak was the only enlightened one and that the rest *diluted* and corrupted guru nanak's message enshrined in japji sahib and the rest were all succeptible to emotions and panj chor (referred to "nis pyare seo neho" to say guru angad was attached to the mortal frame of guru nanak and was depressed when guru nanak passed away but I tried giving him a more accurate translation of the words) the guy kept on copying and pasting the same essay on mahantaa of sri japuji sahib in comments so I confronted him if he believed in japji sahib and then he got more osho type philosophical, basically proving he didnt believe in amrit bani but yeah shocker, the very japji he was praising had its salok composed by guru angad who he was belittling it all started from him asking whether he was a sikh or a nanakpanthi (neither in my opinion, he was parroting his guru osho's words and I woouldnt be surprised that if osho had flipped his views on guru nanak this guy now would have been slandering guru nanak as well), i remember it pissed me off for the two days we went back and forth lmaoo

I thought everyone knew I forgot which source, but I read it somewhere as a kid At the moment, I can only recount bhai jagraj singh of BoS saying this a couples times, somewhere in his panj bania lecture or the japji sahib katha sikhs were asking guru maharaj for a morning bani, so guru maharaj blessed them with japji (I believe some were doing asa di vaar, at least as much was pargat by then, in addition as well but I may be wrong) the sewa of compiling shabads into a japuji sahib was entrusted to bhai lehna (guru angad) at the time of gurgaddi divas of guru angad dev ji maharaj, he composed the salok to complete japji sahib (as the maha mantar was given by akaal purakh when guru nanak went to sach khand abode of paarbrahm kartar and guru nanak replied with the rest of mool mantar; I dont know some may differ with me and say brahmgyani and mahapursh are always in the STATE of sach khand but you guys get what I am trying to convey) that is all I can recall for now but I will try to do more khoj onto this topic

Sikhi in its essence has existed since satyug Every enlightened brahmgyani who has attained paarbrahm akaal purkh can be called a Sikh Such individuals of several clans, creeds, civilizations have been known to keep Kesha

http://www.sikhpolice.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102 Any thoughts sangat ji on this video or the auxiliary article?

Yeah sikhs as a collective thought that the ultimate good would be leaving Anandpur with a pledge from foes that they would not even look in their direction from then Guru sahib did not intervene and lived in bhana That's the prevalent version I've known

Baba binod singh jee were in full correspondence with bhai mani singh ji I believe there is a baba binod Singh bir of Sri dasam granth in moti bagh in sangrur I think So I think we should refrain from disrespecting this mahapurkh

dont want to seem like a crackhead consipiracy theorist but didnt the british fight wars against xing dynasty over opium trading rights must have gotten the kanwar up in line after ranjit singh hooked onto opium if only maharaja ranjit singh didnt have pearls crushed into his wine ?

they are the "chamkila" generation lol the confused turbulent generation, raised up in times of sant bhindranwale, khadku singhs, as well as manak, shinda, chamkila

no no no guru maneyo granth is retained in all versions it is "guru khalsa maneo pargat gura ki deh" that is different this is from bhai prahlad singh ji rehitnama

are all the things in the second paragraph toxic pretty sure those things are universal in the world of punjabism

technically kabiyo baach benti, is the benti chaupai, as indicated from the name anything beyond this "benti" chaupaee (such as rest of charitropakhyan or additional dasam bani) I would consider to be part of the longer "chaupaee sahib" which can be arbitrary upto the person's sharda and devotion but anyone can differ with this, this is just how I have viewed things from beginning the two cut off lines are the main issue in my opinion, because that is like reading japji sahib without the salok and 38th pauree, or anand sahib upto 37th pauree, or leaving out last two chhand of jaap sahib, last tuk of every astpadee in sukhmani sahib, etc. you get the point

and yet the descendants of those dogras enjoy and wield political influence 70 years after "independence" and hari singh losing his jammu kingdom

yes I know I meant one of the first sikhs to translate sri japji sahib instead of some western scholar

I dont get why people are so defensive and why maharani jindan is so romanticized culturally She was a pretty bad administrator

Yeah pretty sure misldars were drinking alcohol by very end of 18th century

Yeah there's always gonna be those who are not fully rehitvaan Doesnt mean puratan granths promoted that, just stating the facts

Personification of the modern day sanatan dharma ideology Basically has no religion like sanatan dharma lol

So babbar akalis tying black pagh in protest were out of gurmat As the thousands of taksalis and khadkus who have and still tie kesari keskis and dumalle While you're on it, try to get some sarab loh assault rifles

So no more saffron for me?