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Out of the Sikh population in India and Pakistan combined 99.9% of Sikhs live in India so I would still advocate that if you are going on a trip to that part of the world that we as a Qaum focus our tourist dollars on east Punjab and uplifting our poor Sikhs in the process rather than enriching those who support the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of the Sikhs there were killed. Obviously the more money we as overseas Sikhs invest in east Punjab the faster we can lift many of our brethren Sikhs out of poverty.

Exactly there are 150,000 plus Sikhs in California easy which is in excess of the Sikh populations of Australia, London, Himachal Pradesh or Alberta respectively. Percentage wise there as many Sikhs in California today as there were Sikhs in the UK around 25years ago. There is no real concept of a Holiest place for Sikhs in the way Muslims pray to a black stone in Mecca. Otherwise why did Sikhs abandon the same to the terrorist state of Pakistan, if so? But in any case, the land of Pakistan is no more holy than east Punjab or the east coast of the States. What matters is our Shabad Guru and Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj which are omnipresent across the planet. So please whatever you do, please don't enrich the Pakistani terrorist regime under the guise of sharda via the pathetic Pakistan yatra! Spend your tourist dollars uplifting our own people in east Punjab instead. Thanks brother!

1. Deep Sidhu isn't held up as Panthic hero but has given due respect for walking away from millions of dollars that he could have made as BJP MP or Advocate/Corporate Lawyer in order to stand for the rights of the poor in India. 2. Every other country has sehajdhari political leaders so why would one argue that Bhagwant Mann will do any worse of a job than Badal, Amrinder or Beanta? Surely it's about getting the least worst choice for leadership rather than insisting upon Rehit in a secular democracy. Remember barely above 50% at present when including all the Dera premi's within Sikh numbers and if you are going define only Amritdhari's as Sikhs then the percentage of Sikhs falls to 2% in east Punjab, so logically why would you expect a Kesdhari CM in a secular democracy given those numbers? It's like Muslims in California expecting the Governor's position there. Weight of numbers matter in a democracy. Of course it should, or whoever is the least worst option - which Bhagwant Mann clearly was in comparison to anti-Sikh CM's like Amrinder and Badal It is better to have hopefully an honest sehajdhari Sikh in the CM role than dishonest anti-Sikh CM's like Amrinder, Badal and Beanta. 100% agree with you. What you have said is common sense. 1. Yes he was clearly a better option that anti-Sikhs like Amrinder and Badal 2. Good. As in a secular democracy, competency to do the job matters more rather than anti-Sikh characters like Amrinder or Badal being foisted on Punjab by Delhi. 3. Good. Badal Dal have no connection to Sikhi. The societies which keep the false veneer of religion out of secular politics tend to perform better economically than theocracies, for example, Singapore, Japan, Germany, Canada etc in comparison to Pakistan, Mauritania or Afghanistan. You have pretty much answered your own question. Decent honest leadership will always be more important than Delhi's criteria of foisting anti-Sikh crooks like Amrinder and Badal simply because they look the part. I am optimistic that Punjab's economy can grow by 50% over the next 5 years or at least double within the next 10 years which is certainly likely to better going than the California economy hopefully. This is what good governance (irrespective of religious status) can achieve: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/higher-than-national-average-per-capita-income-of-telangana-doubled-in-7-years-says-cm-kcr/articleshow/85345573.cms?from=mdr

Simple reason Ranjeet is to decisively end any aspirations for Khalistan. Regardless of the fact that only a minority of Sikhs ever articulated in support of Khalistan. After 1984, RAW realised that most Sikhs were so enraged by the Congress Genocide of Sikhs that in the immediate aftermath of June 1984 and November 1984 it was safe to say that most Sikhs had concluded privately that Indira Gandhi had no moral authority or haq to have any connection or control over the Sikh Qaum. At that point Sikhs were around 63% of the east Punjab population and were on an upward demographic trajectory with only one united Gurdwara per pind. Furthermore, the Muslims and Christians together were collectively around 2%. And of the remainder 35% of so-called government defined Hindu's around 15% of those were non-Punjabi agricultural migrants who often attended their local village Gurdwara's and most of the indigenous so-called Hindu Punjabi's actually attended Gurdwara's too (and many could and should have been considered Nanakpanthi Sikhs). In other words out of indigenous Punjabi's the Sikhs were at least 75% plus majority with an even higher percentage of Sikhs in the villages (more like 90%) which is why incidentally the anti-Sikh pejorative of "pendu" has been heavily promoted by anti-Sikh forces in recent years in order to make Sikhs hate our own mother tongue and denigrate the overwhelmingly village background of most Sikhs. Bear in mind 1984 was a time when seven Amritdhari brothers from Patiala (whose previous family surname was Sharma) died in front of Indira Gandhi's tanks at Sri Darbar Sahib so even so-called Hindu Punjabi's were trending towards the logic and Truth of Sikhi over time. So the playbook employed upon east Punjab is that the Sikhs are the biggest threat to Delhi (not the Muslims nor the Christians). Furthermore, remember that the BJP controlled states all have around 15 to 25% of their respective populations as Muslims. So with the Indian army having an Army budget of $70billion (ten times what it was back in 1984) the Research & Analysis Wing (RAW) are not overly concerned by a potential 10% Muslim minority in east Punjab so long as that helps leave Sikhs a minority there as a result. As Sikhs are seen as the main threat in east Punjab and indeed within India as we see from June 1984. The Abrahamic religions are foreign religions with foreign names and foreign loyalties. The word Hindu is an Arabic word. Sikhi is a word from Sanskrit and our Sikh names are indigenous names of primarily Sanskrit origin. Furthermore our Panj Piare were from as far and wide as Dravidian south India, from Odisha in western India, from Dwarka Nagar in Gujarat, from Uttar Pradesh and from Sialkot. So if Sikhi were to gain traction among 250 million so-called Dalits and 1,000 million poor people in India falsely defined as "Hindu's" by the Government enumerators for votebank politics then Hindutva as a concept and divide and rule tactics by the corrupt power structure would end in a self-ruled majority Sikh country with a population of 1.4 Billion. Ghar wapsi is all well and good in Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat etc. However, to those who perceived Sikhs as the biggest threat to the country by launching and applauding (in the case of the BJP) the Congress Genocide of Sikhs it pays no dividends to discourage Muslims and Christians in east Punjab when they dementedly consider Sikhi a bigger philosophical threat to their corrupt interests within India among non-Abrahamic Dharmic people. With respect to the apartheid franchises devised by Indira Gandhi and Zail Sin, the reason behind that initially was that Nehru had detached the equivalent of what now in 2022 constitute today 100million erstwhile sehajdhari Sikhs outside of Punjab away from Sikhi in the 1951 census (ie 100million Nanakpanthi Sikhs of leatherworking ancestry like Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj and Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji (leader of the Sikh fauj at Guru Sahib's behest), of Bhangi ancestry like Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji, of Kabirpanthi Sikhs (like Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj), Satnami Sikhs, indigenous Assamese Sikhs, various adivasi Sikhs, Vanjara Sikhs, Sikligar Sikhs, Sindhi Sikhs etc, etc, etc. Within Punjab in order to oppose the Punjabi Suba demands at least 1million erstwhile (often illiterate) Sikhs primarily in the Doaba belt were conned and/or financially persuaded between 1951-1966 to register their children with the surnames of Ram, Kumar, Devi and Rani and to declare their mother tongue as Hindi as a result. Fast forward to the 1970's when Indira Gandhi and Zail Sin were hellbent upon opposing the Anandpur Sahib resolution, which called for a United States of India (based upon upon a federal model) in which the Indian Army, foreign affairs and a single currency (Rupee) would continue (but with an increased greater number of Sikhs being chosen upon merit in the Armed Forces rather than restricted according to their demographic weight of 2% at the time). So Sanjay Gandhi and Zail Sin came up with the brainwaves of promoting the Nirankari's and also setting in train the concept of apartheid based Dera's which was put into full motion after 1984. So long story short, if you make an indigenous people a minority in their own homeland (Sikhs were obviously always a minority in all districts of Punjab prior to 1947) then they can hardly have any realistic aspirations of independence in the current time. The natives in Canada, the natives in America, the Aborigines in Australia, the Tibetans in Chinese occupied Tibet, the Maori in New Zealand to give five easy examples are not about to get their independence back any time soon. The Anandpur Sahib Resolution which was a brilliant patriotic concept of federalism was opposed for no rhyme nor reason as the opponents of Sikhs knew that Punjab as the strongest state economy in India would flourish even more and that Sikhi would inevitably grow alongside that as Sikhs were the foremost opponents of Indira Gandhi during the Emergency period (despite demographically being a small minority in the Indian population). However, the terrorist Indira Gandhi and RAW saw Sikhs as the number one enemy (over and above Pakistan and Muslims or Christians in India) and decided to attack in June 1984 in order to crush and eradicate Sikhi from Indian soil and ensure another general election victory. By introducing apartheid dera's to a population which was solidly united in the aftermath of 1984 and encouraging the growth of Islam and Christianity in Punjab via state support is a silent non-headline grabbing form of Genocide. If, as RAW desires, 5-6 million of today's Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi heritage are successfully rebranded by the powers that be as tomorrow's Hindu Chamar and Hindu Balmiki votebank then at a stroke Sikhs will be a minority in Majha and Malwa (and left as around a 30% minority in east Punjab which is around where we were prior to August 1947 in Majha, Malwa and Doaba), all the while whilst Pakistani puppets like Pannun are milking naive Sikhs with pathetic sham referendums. The only way Sikhs can stop the rot is by ensuring the success of the Ik Nagri Ik Gurdwara campaign which aims to ensure only one Gurdwara per pind in Punjab (and locality in the west) and the end to associated matrimonial apartheid which it has promoted and enhanced which is leaving the Sikh birth rate in tatters and far below replacement level at 1.61 TFR for Sikhs. We need to focus on the poorest Sikhs within our community, on the poorest Hindu Punjabi's, on the poor non-Abrahamic agricultural workers from the same blessed land as Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji and Dasam Pita along with the 250 million so-called Dalits outside Punjab and the 1,000 non-Abrahamic poor people in India who are falsely labelled as Hindu's by the BJP in order to cement votebank politics. If we do that Sikhs can be a 90% majority in east Punjab and the largest indigenous non-Muslim community in India of 100million plus by the middle of this century and controlling the reins to a $42trillion economy (as opposed to a small demented cabal of corrupt Hindutva crooks).

I disagree. Gurbani is about connecting us mere mortals to Akaal Purakh so that Sikhs can uplift ourselves as individuals and society at large. Followers of any Slavemaster (or Manuwadi) religion are not condemned blindly but the wrongful actions of the same are condemned. Gurmat emphatically condemning Slavery, the caste system, pedophilia, terrorism, Genocide is tantamount to an outright rejection of Islam, Christianity and Hinduism without Gurbani needing to dedicate itself to outright stating that Nazism, Satanism, Islam, Christianity, Manu Smriti, Hindutva are bad. Exactly Bhai Mardana Ji were the first Sikh in history and the most famous apostate from Islam in Punjab. Similarly, Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj are the clearly biggest opponent of Islam in Gurbani and wholeheartedly rejected the depravity of Islam's racist ideology and Profit Muhammad's own life. I don't believe Dhan Dhan Baba Namdev Ji Maharaj were chastising individual followers (of Hinduism or Islam) for not practising Truth (Gurmat/Sikhi). They were roundly rejecting Islam and Hinduism in toto. I disagree. What Sikhi and Mahatma Buddh say is that Bibek Buddhi and Truth have been with human beings since day one. Way before Islam and Hinduism and Christianity ever existed. Religions that promote circumcision, promote terrorism, promote ethnic cleansing, promote Slavery, promote Genocide, promote pedophilia clearly never came from God. It shouldn't take half a brain cell to work that one out. What Gurbani criticises are fraudsters claiming that the Quran or Manu Smriti or the Bible or the Torah are the word of God. I disagree. No Sikh hates a Muslim doctor saving lives at hospital or an innocent toddler born to Muslim parents just for the sake of it. Ie we don't dislike Islam for the sake of it. It is when Muslims tangibly impact innocent Kaffir lives in a bad way that Sikhi and Gurbani are criticising the ideology and its adherents. 1. Because our paid parcharaks in the last 50 years have never studied Islam. There has been a blind assumption propgated that all religions and ideologies are equally valid routes to connecting with the Divine. Anybody with a little bit of knowledge would realise how much Genocide and Terrorism the two big Slavemaster religions have unleashed upon the World. 2. That's the fault of our naive and uneducated parcharaks rather than Sikhi. Also our parcharaks seem to assume that because most Punjabi's are Muslims that it cannot be a false religion like Nazism etc. 3. Sikhi gives us the power of Bibek Buddhi which enables all of us to realise for ourselves that Nazism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, etc, etc are false without Gurbani having to go on a treatise for Aurangzeb's benefit about each. 4. The Chowk Mehta Dera ideology you are referring was tantamount to saying that 2billion Muslims always stay Muslims but become good Muslims (like Islamic State) and that all 1.1 Billion Hindu's become good Hindu's like Manu or Modi and that Sikhi remain forever constricted to those born into Sikh families in Majha and Malwa. In fact the argument is tantamount to saying that Sikhs should never exist in the first place. It wasn't for no reason that prior to June 1984, DDT the term coined by Sanjay Gandhi and Zail Sin held no credibility in the Panth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DICDYAX_O1g 5. Those people are clowns. They are not our leaders. They don't have the right to lead the Sikh Panth. They serve laddoos to the Badals while hobnobbing with the likes of Muhammad Izhar Alam. Similarly, the 2020 types like Pannun are all Pakistani puppets on the ISI payroll. http://www.sikh24.com/wp-content/uploads/Alam-Dhumma.jpg http://www.sikh24.com/wp-content/uploads/Baba_Harnaam_Singh_Dhumma_Badal-610x457.jpg

1. I have to sadly agree with you. If the proliferation of apartheid Dera's continues and the present day Dharam Yudh of "Ik Nagri Ik Gurdwara" (only one united Gurdwara per pind in Punjab and in each locality in the West) then we are staring at demographic oblivion with the community heading towards minority status in east Punjab. 2. I disagree on that. Some of our people are stupid, yes. However, these demographic time bombs for east Punjab are ALL deliberate. i) Muhammad Izhar Alam the Genocidal Killer of Sikhs being appointed head of the east Punjab Waqf Board and tasked with the ultimate of re-activating and re-building 13,000 new Mosques in each and every village was no accident. ii) Churches being planted on strategic corners in every pind does not happen without RAW's connivance and support. You can bet your bottom dollar that if the same scenario happened in Gujarat, Modi and Amit Shah would tackle it in a flash. A lot of the ex-Punjab Police and cats who became active in the drugs trade in BC are heavily involved in the mushrooming up of these Churches. iii) Much of the land is also gifted direct by the Government to the RAW's apartheid pushing underlings (the non-Abrahamic Hindutva crowd working to break Sikhs away from Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj) as a quid pro quo that all revenues from the apartheid dera's will go to the pimps running those apartheid dera's. iv) You will never see a Mosque, a Church or a Dera Ballan apartheid dera ever raided by Punjab Police for drugs. These places are safe havens for drug dealing to destroy Sikh youth. vi) I can go on and on as I have studied this sytematic attempt to destroy the Sikh Panth but I have faith that the Truth of Sikhi will be strong enough to overcome these multi-pronged challenges. People that believe in the enslavement and Genocide of others and in the depravity of the caste simply cannot win. 3. Gurbani is about spiritually enabling us ordinary human beings to become better people and to enable Begumpura where no one suffers injustice or discrimination. Unlike the Abrahamic scriptures there is no blueprint in Gurbani that 20% of slave profits captured by the Muslim Ummah should go direct to Profit Muhammad's pocket. Sikhi arms us with Bibek Buddhi. We don't need Gurbani to spell out that we should not follow a Genocidal terrorist pedophile racist Slave Trader like Muhammad. Our own analysis of his demented life should be enough for that. The 2 billion Muslim demographics will sooner or later sink without trace once all Muslim read and analyse as to what kind of depraved person Muhammad the Slave Trader was. However, it is our job as Sikhs to ensure that in the interim before Islam and the other big Slavemaster Abrahamic faith both collapse they do not destroy innocent lives in east Punjab in the process. Similarly, and even more demographically important is that we do not allow the Hindutva apartheid pimps like Dera Ballan to prevent the re-integration of 60 million Nanakpanthi Sikhs of leatherworking ancestry back into the Sikh Panth and the fracturing apartheid divide and rule being implemented against Sikh villages in east Punjab with RAW's backing.

The question to ask yourself Dally is why would Bollywood in this instance hone in on a single tribe out of thousands in India? That tribe represents around 21% of the population of east Punjab and 40% of Sikh demographics in east Punjab. But in India, the Sikh adherents from that tribal ancestry represent less than 1 in 200 of the population but the Government still encourages Hindu film-makers to name a title as such in order to divide and rule the Sikh community.

Correct on all you say Ranjeet Singh but I'd add: 1. It's actually a three-pronged approach as in order to turn Sikhs into a minority by the 2031 census a Hindu majority is not needed. i) So obviously there is economic labour migration from people perceived to be Hindu's but who with parchaar could readily become new sehajdhari Sikhs in most cases. These folks are essential for the economy of Punjab and provided we assimilate them as new Sikhs there won't be a problem if we simply educate them about our Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji from Bihar and Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. What is today perceived as a problem could turn into a massive demographic blessing for the Panth if we integrate and welcome new non-Punjabi's into the Sikh Panth. ii) Then you have the two Abrahamic communities who together are currently at around a matching percentage to Muslims in the UK. Both these communities oppose the BJP's anti-conversion and anti-love-jihad/baptism laws. The Christians are planting massive Christian crosses on strategic corners to the pinds where their business franchises are operating. The Muslims having wanted to annex east Punjab into Pakistan in 1947 were given free reign to reactivate and rebuild as many empty mosques by Muhammad Izhar Alam who was appointed head of the Punjab Waqf Board as a reward for his Genocide of so many Amritdhari Sikhs in the 1980's on behalf of the Gandhi family. Badal Dal appointed the killer's wife as an MLA. Hindutva should and does oppose the Abrahamics in their own ruled states. However, Sikhi represents the biggest indigenous threat to the corrupt Indian system and Hindutva out there and hence in east Punjab they are encouraged purely to tilt the scales towards Sikhs becoming a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census. Hindutva seeks to divide and rule whereas Sikhi would unify the poor under Sri Nishan Sahib for the betterment of society. iii) Last but not least and possibly the most important is the agenda by RAW to rebrand around 5-6 million Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestry into tomorrow's Hindu Chamar and Hindu Balmiki votebanks for the BJP nowadays but it was the Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi who initiated this demented ideology with the end target being to leave Sikhs in a decisive minority in Majha and Malwa (given that we are already a minority in Doaba where many of us in the Diaspora have ancestors). The only way we can fightback against this evil agenda against our Panth is if we unite each and every pind in Punjab under a single united Gurdwara in this decade. There is simply no way for a community split by various apartheid franchise Dera's in a single pind to survive. When Sikhs were killed during the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of Sikhs were killed there and during the Congress Genocide of Sikhs none of the killers bothered to do a background check on the ancestry of the Sikhs they were killing and that's why desperately need to unite among ourselves as once we are United, no power on this planet cannot stop. United we stand, Divided we fall.

Well said Dally Paji. There is no (south) Asian identity to be proud of. People of sub-contiental ancestry in the Diaspora should describe themselves as Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Sikh instead. (Though I can understand the Muslim and Pakistani desire to describe groomers via the generic term of Asian. As the blanket term has also assisted Pakistani Muslim MP's to represent 10% of the opposition parliamentary seats in England with a party that could come to power in a coalition in 2years time - which would result in at least ten more Mirpuri Muslim Jatts like the pedophile Lord Nazir Ahmad holding serious power. This is in the context of there being no Sikh MP's in Parliament between 2015-2017). Similarly, there is no Punjabi identity to be proud of. Most Punjabi's are Muslims. 90% of historic Punjabi's are non-Sikhs. Pakistani Punjabi's overwhelmingly despise the Punjabi language which they refer to the language of Sikhs as a "Chuhre-Chamaar'ah di Zubaan" because of course they refer to us Sikhs as a "Chuhre-Chamaar'ah di Qaum" (which of course, we are proud of via our Sikh Shaheeds and those greats who wrote our Shabad Guru). So why are we so brainlessly beating the drum of Punjabiyat? It doesn't exist! The only identity we should openly declare and be proud is of being Sikh.

@proudkaur21 it can't even be described as Low IQ thinking. The best way to describe so-called Sikhs aiding and abetting the planned anti-Sikh agenda of 13,000 newly constructed Mosques in each and every village of east Punjab is that they either hate Sikhi secretly or they are mentally retarded. What we need instead is a Dharam Yudh in which all of us on push the agenda to unite every single pind (and locality in the West) under a single united casteless Gurdwara asap this decade. That will be the key to defeating this looming demographic threat in east Punjab that seeks to turn Sikhs into a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

Dhan Dhan Bhai Lalo Ji I think we as Sikhs need to remind ourselves and others in the Panth that spiritually Bhai Lalo Ji as a GurSikh represents a bigger and better Sikh than Ranjit Singh (for all his political and secular achievements).

Well exposed on "Sham" Sister. I am not sure he is a far left commie but he is a rabid Pakistani puppet and for him to describe Singhs on Twitter as Incels but support pedophiles like Lord Nazir Ahmad along with the other Pakistani puppet Pannun is a joke. 1. Paji I just wanted to put forward that the "defund the police" mantra isn't what it seems to be and a better comparable might be if Sikhs in the 1990's were wanting the state to "defund Punjab Police". The word "defund" is toxic is should be replaced with "what alternative uses of the overall prison and police budget can yield better outcomes if re-invested in educating African American children and improving social indices in that community", for example (as per the link). https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/21430892/defund-the-police-funding-abolish-george-floyd-breonna-taylor-daniel-prude Ie if $250 billion is spent annually in America on the combined budget for Policing (approx $150 billion) and Prisons (approx $100 billion) the argument is that allocating, for example, $50billion of that figure towards educating and uplifting African American children whilst cutting the profits of the privatised prison system companies would yield greater results for society. 2. I agree with much of what you say but Sikhs need to be careful that if all Sikhs start to avoid enrollment in Diaspora Police forces then there are larger communities that will likely control policing to the detriment of Sikhs. Ie greater Sikh and African Diaspora representation are needed in the Police. But I agree it's insulting when they set up their stalls at the Gurdwara. But being antagonistic against the Police purely for the sake of it will get us nowhere as a minority. We as a Panth can still criticise racist or anti-Sikh police officers or systemically racist police departments when need be. But having no Sikh or low levels of minority representation in local Police forces leads to the events like Ferguson in America where a majority black community was controlled and brutalised by mainly white police. Similarly when 80% of the Punjab-based recruits into the racist British Empire's Indian Army representation from Punjab were Muslims, much as it pains me to say it, had there been zero Sikhs with Army training the situation during the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs could have been far worse. Sister you are totally correct to highlight these frauds but it would be more accurate to describe Sham etc as Pakistani puppets. As he call Singhs who oppose his pimping for the Pakistani terrorist regime as "incels" yet his best friend Lord Nazir Ahmad is all good in Sham's eyes despite being a convicted pedophile. It is beyond belief that Sham will never refer to the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs during which 25% of Sikhs there were killed but because the Pakistani ISI bankroll him and the American clown Pannun they are suddenly the best terrorist regime on Earth. Note how 3 of the 5 below are Pakistani's and how Pannun's aim was to give $19million to the Pakistani terrorist regime (and raised by him from gullible Sikhs). Pamma the one with the Dastar lived for so many years in his beloved Pakistan that he has lost the plot about how much money the Pakistani terrorist regime makes from drug sales to Sikh youth in east Punjab and these 2020 types want more and more of their Muslim brothers to settle in east Punjab. All the the time these clowns like Sham are promoting Pakistan, we as Sikhs are heading closer to becoming a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census (and our eye is being taking off the ball regarding that by these 2020 Pakistani puppets) and the vital need for us to support poor Sikhs and the below replacement Sikh birth rate and massive levels of abortion going on in east Punjab along with Pakistani supplied drugs. The biggest thing we as Sikhs now need after the last 40 years in east Punjab is a period of stability, peace and economic growth via inward investment from overseas Sikhs yet Sham idiotically advocates armed struggle against India in 2022 not realising that India has a $3trillion economy (and a military budget 10 times bigger than what it was in 1984) and is courted and supported by all of the West and Russia and on the trajectory to being a $42trillion economy by 2050. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/ Bhai Jagraj Singh was 100% correct that armed struggle for Majha and Malwa (as Doaba is already majority non-Sikh) in this current time will yield zero results but parchaar to 250 million Dalits throughout India and the one billion poor people who are falsely defined as "Hindu's" by the BJP can achieve Khalsa Raj of a bigger kind without bloodshed which will benefit no one (least of all us as Sikhs). Sister, I think Paji meant the openly non-Sikh Punjabi traitors whose parents or ancestors were Sikhs as the ones who are the most disloyal collaborators like so many in Punjab Police and these various clown singers working for RAW and Muslim or Hindu owned record labels.

True bro in 2011 when 1.7% of Indians were enumerated as Sikhs that translated as 20million Sikhs back in 2011. The problem is that with a vastly below replacement fertility rate since 2011 there is no guarantee that Sikhs will be much more than 20million by 2050 or the 2051 census when the Indian population is projected to 1,650-1,700 million with Muslims on track to be 350million among that figure. The Sikh population in India needs to be 100million plus strong by the planned census of 2051 if we diaspora Sikhs do our best to financially support education, healthcare and parchaar to the most economically weak communities in Punjab and throughout India.

Great posts Ji + I am in full agreement with everything you say. We as Sikhs need to ditch this pathetic concept of Punjabiyat. Sikhi + the Punjabi language are all Punjabi Sikhs need. The reason the Harvest Festival nonsense is promoted over Vaisakhi (Khalsa Sajna Diwas) is that the opponents of Sikhi are scared of the 1.4 Billion Indian population realising that our Panj Piare from Gujarat, Karnataka, Odisha, Uttar Pradesh, Sialkot standing up in 1699 was the most revolutionary and incredible instance of the oppressed standing up in the land of India from day one through the indisputable Truth of Sikhi.

"The Muslim Community has a fertility rate of 2.3, with the Hindu community following at 1.94 in NFHS 5. The Christian community has a fertility rate of 1.88, the Sikh community at 1.61, the Jain community at 1.6 and the Buddhist and neo-Buddhist community at 1.39—the lowest rate in the country." What the figures above neglect to mention is that the Muslims marry off their girls at age 16 in India and that excluding Jains (who are primarily from a business background), the Muslims have the second highest proportion of castes termed as "general category" in India or "higher caste" in Pakistan and yet still have the highest fertility rates. In contrast most non-Muslim men in India are getting married at around twice the age that most Muslim females get married at. The two minority Dharmic faiths which are composed of a majority of economically downtrodden backgrounds (98% in the case of Buddhists and 52% in the case of Sikhs) which have the most to offer India have below replacement levels of TFR and which implies that even the poorest non-Muslims in India have lower fertility rates than so-called "higher caste" Muslims such as the Muslim Rajputs (Ranghars), Muslim Brahmins (Butts), Muslim Khatri's (Sheikhs), Pathans, Syeds etc. The statistics imply a trajectory that there will be more than One Billion Muslims plus just across India, Pakistan and Bangladesh by 2050 in contrast to 20 million or less Sikhs in India by then unless our community gets serious about serious sewa and parchaar to non-Punjabi's in India (alongside the poorest communities in Punjabi and the Bihari's already resident in Punjab).