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1. We know that people sitting in Delhi and Pakistan are responsible for a lot of the problems the Sikh Qaum faces today but LACK OF UNITY is the primary reason as to why we are failing to address the problems our enemies put in front of us (which we can overcome if we unite all Sikhs under a single united Gurdwara in every Pind and locality in the West). 2. Amrinder and Badal were puppets of Delhi just like Brar and KPS Gill. It's a shame Bhagwant Mann did not insist on all Punjabi Rajya Sabha representation (with at least 3 of the 5 being Sikhs like Bibi Khalra Ji) but I still have faith that if he can encourage NRI investment into Punjab (that Amrinder deliberately discouraged) that there can be big improvements in Punjab over the next 5 to 10 years with the economy projected to grow 50% over the next 5years and 100% over the next 10 years (provided Bhagwant Mann abstains from alcohol). 3. Female infanticide (silent self-inflicted Genocide upon the Qaum), below replacement TFR, late marriages or not marrying, alcohol, drugs, the cancerous disease of apartheid mindsets and RAW-sponsored apartheid Dera's and Santsangs within the Qaum, drugs pumped in from Pakistan with Delhi's connivance, anti-Sikh anti-Unity pro-drugs, pro-alcohol, pro-caste apartheid messaging via the non-Sikh controlled Punjabi music industry, sky-rocketing cancer rates, falling water tables, pro-Pakistani clowns like Gurpatwant Pannun seeing himself as the first President of Khalistan who will run the country from his multi-million dollar mansion in America (while destroying the futures of innocent youth in Punjab) are a few other issues that come to mind. The only ever unique and brilliant things to come out of Punjab are Sikhi and the language. Beyond that Punjabiyat has nothing to do with Sikhi and has nothing to offer us as Sikhs. The Sikh Panth will only really flourish when those from Malwa and Majha become a minority representation within a global Sikh Panth. PS Dally Singh Ji would it be possible to put the prancing clowns on a separate so that this serios thread doesn't get derailed with more and more youtube videos, memes and gif's. By the way I wonder what goes through Davinder Bal CEO of Sikh Channel's mind to run a religious channel on the one hand and yet operate a secular channel as a de facto front for Muslimbox and as a way of corrupting Diaspora youth from his own community!? Even the Christian channels in America delete out words considered offensive. Please do try and organise a petition in your ends to present to D.Bal and Sikh Channel over the conduct of the station that tries to lump Sikhs as Asians (along with Muslims) yet tries to divide our Qaum when Guru Sahib envisaged us as indivisible and all as the avowed enemies of lineage stratification. 1. Bear in mind that most Hindu's eat meat nowadays and many Muslim leaders drink alcohol and most leaders in the West do not care for Christianity regardless of how much Marjorie Taylor Green might pretend to. However, the masses not always following a way of life consistent with the ideals of a faith or ideology does not hold back Judeo-Christian civilisations, nor the Islamic Empires nor those currently on the Hindutva bandwagon which is likely to hold power in India for a good while yet. 2. Agreed, Anybody that understands Sikhi would not partake in those things. But maybe the fault is on us fr not doing parchaar of the values associated with Sikhi and perhaps being too quick to judge members of our Qaum as non-Sikhs and thus unworthy of redemption, parchaar or assistance. 1. It became a bigger problem in the last 200years and particularly after the racist British Empire stepped up exports of Whisky etc from Scotland to the sub-continent in order to drug out the natives (of India) just like how alcohol was and is used to destroy every Reservation. 2. The new problems were all devised by the Nehru-Gandhi family. The problem is why are we as a Qaum falling prey to such obvious schemes? For example, Nehru realised that if all non-Punjabi sehajdhari's were defined as Hindu's then at a stroke the Panth would lose what today comprises a 100million population of erstwhile Sehajdhari Sikhs outside Punjab. 3. Exactly the industry is controlled by Hindu and Muslim financiers yet RAW have clearly instructed them to hone in on a demographic that comprises 21% of the east Punjab population in order to destroy a united Sikh identity of brotherhood and equality but instead to promote an anti-Sikh identity of caste pride, alcoholism, drug addiction, criminality and failure. What's more is that the overwhelming majority of that said demographic do not realise that most Jatts are Muslim and that 85% of that community are non-Sikhs such as General Bajwa of Pakistan and Sajjan Kumar types from India. 4. It is pure degeneracy of the highest order. I am glad you will buy a rental property or donate the same to a charity helping Sikhs instead of wasting all that money that our stupid people regularly flush down the toilet on weddings! 5. Caste was never an issue among Sikhs until 1849. For example, the Ramgarhia Misl was initiated by a casteless Sikh of one ancestry and leadership was passed over to Sardar Jassa Singh. Now 90% of the fauj within that Misl did not belong to the same background as Sardar Jassa Singh yet because all Sikhs saw each others as equals and as part of a meritocracy it was understand that anybody can lead the Qaum. For example, Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh led the Sikh Fauj at Guru Sahib's behest despite the Muslims laughing that the Sikhs were being led by an erstwhile so-called "Chamar" in Guru Sahib's absence. In 1977 the plan of divide and rule was hatched by none other than Sanjay Gandhi with Zail Sin's advice and after 1984 RAW attempted to destroy Sikhi from within via apartheid golak's. If we cannot unite under one united Gurdwara in each and every pind in Punjab (and locality in the West) in this decade then we will only have ourselves to blame. Especially in the context of RAW's overall goal to declare as many Sikhs as possible from Ravidasi and Mazhabi backgrounds as apartheid Dera worshippers falling within the Hindu votebank numbers by the 2031 census as they realise that these communities combined virtually match the numbers of the 40% plurality of Jatt ancestry adherents within the Qaum in east Punjab on an demographic basis. Sikhs need to enforce a don't ask, don't tell, don't promote mentality within the Qaum when it comes to caste and one United Gurdwara per pind is essential to achieving Unity in the Qaum. 6. Well said. Nobody can force someone to inject drugs. Nobody can force someone to abort a child. There is no excuse for apartheid golak's and people worshipping Ram Rahim Sidhu or the Dhillon family as supposedly God in human flesh much less to promote the increase and infiltration of the two Slavemaster religions and which have enslaved and killed tens of millions via Genocide. We as ordinary individual Sikhs have to play our part in fighting against the forces that want to destroy us. Nothing can stop us if we are united and have pyaar for each other as fellow Sikhs and we treat those who can be tomorrow's Sikhs such as Bihari's in Punjab with pyaar and welcome them and integrate them into the Sikh Panth regardless of if they are not Punjabi (given the background of Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji, for example) and regardless of if they are Sehajdhari. As more quality Amritdhari new blood will inevitably arise from new mostly non-Punjabi Sikhs for whom the message of Vaisakhi 1699 will resonate. Quality over quantity counts for the Khalsa Panth only. However, for the overall Sikh Panth numbers matter as recent decreasing Sikh demographics and repeated Genocides in the 20th century clearly showed us.

1. Where are you getting your bogus statistics from bro? I don't even think 80% of white folks in NY/NJ hate Sikhs so where you plucked out this 80% of Hindu's hate Sikhs figure I don't know. Have you actually ever been to India? 80% of the Indian population are falsely classified as Hindu's by a small but clever minority of Hindutuva thinkers but no 1 BILLION Hindu's worldwide do NOT hate us! But we have ignored parchaar to them for far too long. 2. Amazing how casually you are dismissing a hypothetical 60million people! So let's say 60million allies or new sehajdhari Sikhs wish to align themselves with the 20million strong existing Panth in India thereby quadrupling the Sikh Panth's population and demographic and political weight by a factor of 4 times why would you oppose that if that would get the Sikh Panth quite close to 100 million strong in short order? 3. So Muslims can convert anybody. Christians can convert anybody. Hindutva thinkers can define anyone who isn't Sikh, Jain, Buddhist or Muslim in India as a Hindu. But Sikhi cannot educate today's so-called non-Sikhs in India as to why Vaisakhi 1699 was the most revolutionary date in History when our Panj Piare from Gujarat, from Odisha, from Karnataka, from Hastinapur and from Sialkot stood up for Truth, Equality and Justice. 4. Can you explain to me how you are a (ghulam) slave in America today?

Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj were avowedly non-Muslim bro. Hence why the Muslim murderers tried to kill Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj as an Apostate who denounced Islam. 1. In the case of Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj they were *the* most critical within our Shabad Guru in terms of criticising Islam. Ie they were not Muslim and abhorred Islam theologically. Of course they were raised by Muslim parents as a child but they rejected everything Islam stands for as an adult. Similarly, with Pir Buddhu Shah and Sain Mian Mir as those devout souls did matha tek before Guru Sahib they had already self-categorised themselves as non-Muslims - much like the erstwhile Muslim apostate and scholar Allah Yaar Khan. 2. This very strongly applies to the crooks claiming to be the lineal spiritual descendants of various so-called Sufi orders nowadays. A Sufi cannot be Muslim by defintion despite the oxymoron term nowadays of Sufi Muslim used by apologists. True Sufi's by definition believe in One God but reject the slavery, terrorism, genocide and sexual abuse that Prophet Muhammad himself engaged and that the Quran condones. There were no Hindu and Muslim Bhagats. Being born into a certain faith background does not define the spiritual that our blessed Bhagat's held (=Gurmat). Those whose promoted Gurmat via Gurbani that we bow down to every day were Gurmukhs of the Highest Order and clearly non-Hindu's and non-Muslims. Peer Buddhu Shah were made shaheed for being an apostate of Islam and bowing down before Guru Sahib. Anyone who bows down before anything other than the black stone in Mecca is automatically a non-Muslim in Islam. This is because true Sufi's cannot be Muslim. As the true Sufi's are non-Muslims who believe in one God but reject the moral depravity of the Prophet Muhammad for engaging in Slavery, Genocide, Pedophilia, Terrorism, Sexual Abuse etc as detailed in Quran, Hadiths and Sharia.

Why should the Panth alienate sehajdhari members of the Panth given that including everyone (Amritdhari, Kesdhari, Sehajdhari) the Sikh Qaum only comprises 0.1% of the population in America. Why would such a small community wish to alienate members of its own faith and community? Nowhere near as much as Khalsa Aid despite British Sikh Council doing a superb job supporting Sikligar Sikhs that had been ignored for many years. Just for your info Cali Paji there are 100million sehajdhari Sikhs around today who connection with Sikhi has been lost in the last 75years. Had we focussed on re-connecting them with the Panth before 1984 (instead of focussing on Nirankari's, for example) then there would been no Congress Genocide of the Sikhs in the years in the 1980's. So Sikhs comprise 0.1% of the population in America. 99.9% of the population are non-Sikhs. So do you advise that most Sikh men die alone and unmarried due to simple demographic constraints or that if Singhs marry spouses via Anand Karaj and raise their children as Sikhs and as part of the Gurdwara community that it is somehow a crime which we should behead them for?

The best chance for Sikhs to regain full control of Sri Nankana Sahib in the long term future is if Islam collapses like the house of cards it is from the overwhelmingly weight information like the above bit by bit eroding the faith of the "Believers" online!

Emigration from India + Punjab will continue for a long time yet. As China currently has a $20trillion economy but the number of rich millionaire mainland Chinese trying to obtain US, Canadian, UK, Australian, New Zealand and EU passports shows no sign of abating. Currently India has around a $3trillion economy in nominal USD terms (which is around $11trillion in PPP terms). That is approximately around 14 times the size of the Indian economy in 1984. But with the Indian population projected to 1.65 Billion by 2050 it is no big stretch of the imagination that the Indian economy will reach around $42trillion or around 15% of the global economy by 2050 according to most top economists. This is type of growth that simple clean non-corrupt good governance can create: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/higher-than-national-average-per-capita-income-of-telangana-doubled This guy KCR has doubled the economy in Telangana in 7years is probably the one man that Modi and Amit Shah fear the most in the 2029 election. But even in Punjab 50% growth is projected over the next 5years and if Bhagwant Mann can govern with honesty Punjab should have an economy of at least twice the size it is today in around 10 years. But there will still be hundreds of millions of poor and middle class Indians that will continue to emigrate and the billionaire class will still prefer London and Switzerland compared to the place that they steal their money from (with Government support).

Don't forget Dally that Simranjeet Singh Mann advocated just exactly this! Ie that Sikhs should serve under the likes of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion! And this is after he waved the Chinese flag when Sikh soldiers were made shaheed at Galwan and after he waved the Pakistani flag responsible for the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs that massacred 25% of our population (and the Pulwama bomb blast which in which many Sikh jawans were killed that the Pakistani Jatt spokesman Fawaz Chaudhry openly boasted about with glee in the Pakistani parliament). Incidentally Fawaz Chaudhry may be a relative of Anjem Choudary despite the slightly different spelling. No wonder SSM has been politically irrelevant in terms of such few votes received and will remain so.

But in order to get the thread back on track: Ravi Singh should understand that there is no bigger priority than for all of us as Sikhs to focus on the upliftment of the poorest people in Punjab today. Instead of Ravi Singh buying and distributing Bibles and Qurans for those supported by NATO or 50-odd plus Muslim countries, it should be incumbent upon him to focus more of the donations they receive from their 98% Sikh patrons towards the education, healthcare and upliftment of the poorest sections of people in east Punjab. If we can't help our own brothers and sisters from the most economically deprived backgrounds then we will only have ourselves to blame if we end up a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census as the plan from RAW is to self-disassociate all those Sikhs of today from Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestry (that comprise more than one third of the Sikh Qaum in Punjab) into tomorrow Hindu votebanks worshipping at apartheid Dera Ballan and Balmiki Dera's in order to decisely leave the Sikh Panth as a minority in east Punjab and also cut our links emphatically with 100million sehajdhari Sikhs outside Punjab of the same ancestry backgrounds as Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj, Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji (leader of the Sikh Fauj in Guru Sahib's absence) and the bravest of the brave Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji ... and not to mention our Kabirpanthi and Sanatani brothers from Uttar Pradesh ... in total = 100 million sehajdhari Sikhs outside Punjab who were always associated with Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj until Nehru was gifted power by the racist British Empire.

Yes indeed Kanjar is an ethnic tribe just like how Gujjars and Jatts and Kamboj and Saini's are ethnic tribes. Mirasi is a profession and does not relate to a tribe. Ie the musicians who play in Heera Mandi are known as Mirasi. Kissan is a profession and does not indicate the tribal background of a farmer who might be Gujjar, Jatt, Saini, Baloch, Pathan or Rajput, for example. Of course Sikhi elevates the poor and the downtrodden to equal status so we as Sikhs have the highest respect for Bhai Mardana Ji as a Rababi (profession). But in Pakistan Bhai Mardana Ji are derided as an apostate "Kanjar" deliberately. Kanjar is a tribe and Mirasi is the profession. For example, Labana is at tribal background though they may have mostly follow the profession of salt transportation in previous times or farming nowadays. Indira Gandhi massacred pilgrims at Harmandar Sahib on the Shaheedi Diwas of Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj. Now imagine if Trump was President in 2022 and massacred everyone at the Superbowl this year. I daresay that millions of emotional American munday would also take up arms against a terrorist Government like that at the time.

You are 100% correct on the above. However, the songs (promoted by non-Sikhs may I add as Jatts comprise 21% of the east Punjab population so it is unheard of in history for a single minority sub-community to be targetted by the Hindu and Muslim controlled Punjabi record industry with various alternating anti-Sikh messages of pathetic caste pride, alcohol, drugs, promiscuity, criminality) excuse that people are parroting nowadays is ridiculous in the extreme as the comparison of Pakistan, east Punjab and India besides east Punjab reveals that: *Pakistani Muslims openly boast that they did not let and still do not let "Chuhra's and Chamars" (as they call them) in their Mosques. *In Pakistan the vast majority of all such people converted to Christianity (and Sikhi) between 1849-1947. People like Martin Bashir and Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali are examples. *In East Punjab the overwhelming majority of our Gurdwareh have Mazhabi Sikh Granthi's and Giani's and statistically the level of caste discrimination is lower in Punjab than virtually all other Indian states due to the impact of Sikhi on just over half of the Punjab population. *Outside of east Punjab there is blatant discrimination and caste oppression of the kind that doesn't even exist in Punjab. *Yet in the last 75years any apostate from Islam in Pakistan like Bhai Mardana Ji is killed and since Nehru started to encourage tens of millions of sehajdhari Sikhs to record their childrens surnames as Ram, Kumar, Devi or Rani instead of Singh and Kaur the Sikh Panth has lost connection with over 100million sehajdhari Sikhs (primarily outside Punjab) and the aim of the enemies of the Sikh Panth is to convert all Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestry into non-Sikh Christians or Dera worshippers as we see when Badal built the multi-millions Balmiki Dera in Amritsar. *Bhai Mardana Ji from the oppressed tribe so massively despised by Muslims so much so that the tribal name itself (Kanjar) became a pejorative had the bravery to leave Islam and become the first Sikh in history thereby putting a target for Death upon themselves from the Qazi's and Mullah's. Compare that to the generation of today who would sell out Sikhi for the fantasy of a Canadian tourist visa (which never arrives despite Jesus Christ's best efforts). The majority of the Pastors making money out of Christianity's growth in east Punjab are rich local Jatts that collaborated with Congress in the 1980's and Canadian Jatt pastors. The Radha Soami controllers's are Dhillon Jatts. Ram Rahim is a Sidhu Jatt. Canadian Jatts from BC who are also involved in the drug trade there are also the ones buying the land at strategic positions and who quite often own the Churches and many of the converts are Jatts. None of the Muslim Jatts in Pakistan and none of the Hindu Jatts are leaving their religions to become born again Christians. Sonam Bajwa is a millionaire convert to Christianity. The lie that it is only so-called oppressed castes converting to Christianity is only pimped by the Indian Media. The point that ProudKaur is making Dally Singh Ji is that the Muslims and Hindu's are far more oppressive than the minority of casteist Sikhs like the Congress supporting Jatts + Tarkhans (as statistics clearly show) yet neither the Muslims nor Hindu's are losing the large numbers to Christianity that we see in east Punjab (as a result of RAW's desire to ensure that Sikhs are a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census). Look at the heroes of the Sikh Panth and those who authored our Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj: *Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj (every time we as Sikhs do matha tek we acknowledge we Sikhs are all lower than the caste identity that Muslims and Hindu's despise the most) Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji (derided by the Muslims and Hindu's for being a Chamar yet appointed head of the Sikh Fauj by Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj themself) Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji (derided as a so-called "Bihari Chuhra" by our Muslim and Hindu opponents) Giani Ditt Singh Ji the intellectual brains behind why Lahore Singh Sabha was able to almost double the percentage number of Sikhs between 1881-1941 despite the Hindu's and Muslims hating him for being a GurSikh of erstwhile Chamar ancestry. The way the Christian Jatts are getting rich out of is the same way that the Dera Beas Radha Soami Dhillons and Ram Rahim Sidhu do by selling drugs and quack cures. The income the Christian Jatts who own and run a lot of the Churches is higher off a church building than a similar small plot of land would otherwise earn them. The big marketing tricks they use are healing people (as they say Gurbani cannot and only a white skinned and blue eyed Jesus can) and enticing people that they will get immigration for Canada if they convert to Christianity. 100% correct. A lot of the Christian Jatts probably reject our religion because most of our Gurdwareh are run by Singhs of Mazhabi ancestry for the last 150years since the Lahore Singh Sabha and Giani Ditt Singh's reforms which ended racist and pro-casteist British rule of our Gurdwara's bit by bit culminating 100 years ago. Most of the GurSikh youth left in Punjab are of Mazhabi ancestry. They are the one community keeping the torch of Sikhi alive in Punjab the most. You are absolutely correct. Also there is no concerted effort to grow Christianity in Pakistani Punjab or majority Hindu states adjoining Punjab. The effort is concentrated in in east Punjab primarily by Jatts and erstwhile Hindu Ad-Dharmi's. However, since 2011 when RAW told their Dera Ballan operatives to declare that they are not Sikhs, Christianity is growing faster among Jatts (because of the Canada marketing trick that Canadian Christian Jatts are employing). Mazhabi Sikhs are not leaving Sikhi to the same degree like other communities as Guru Sahib themselves said "Rangrete Guru Ke Bete". (The poorest and oppressed are the True Sons and Daughters of Guru Sahib). The casteists most closely aligned to working as operatives for RAW and Hindutva such as Christian Jatts and erstwhile Hindu Ad-Dharmi's along with the Christians from historically Muslim villages in east Punjab before 1947 are at the forefront. A lot of these Churches don't allow Mazhabi's inside in any case as the Mazhabi identity is synonymous with Sikhi. Yes what's ironic is that Sonam Bajwa is so deluded she actually probably believes that her being a Christian will get her a break in Hollywood! Any Jatt like General Bajwa from Pakistan or Sajjan Kumar type Hindu Jatts in India would rather die than become Christian but in east Punjab these Christian Jatts genuinely think we as Sikhs are going to Hell. Yes you are absolutely right and hit the nail on the head. Agreed anyone who is a casteist or spreads disunity among Sikhs cannot be Sikh full stop. For once I actually agree with you Then why are most Punjabi's Muslims then? 90% of Punjabi's in the main despise Sikhi and Sikhi's main future potential is outside of Punjab. Agreed What fairer treatment elsewhere? Christianity condones Slavery. Brahmin Christians had separate Churches to other castes in India from the get go centuries ago (not just after Rajiv Gandhi became PM as was deliberately created by Zail Sin and Congress-Gandhi family in Punjab after 1984). Muslims did not allow (as they call them) "Chuhre and Chamar" to enter Mosques. Islam condones Slavery and their Prophet Muhammad owned, trade and sold black slaves. What fairer treatment do Christian Jatts, Radha Soami Jatts and Ram Rahim Sidhu want? Maybe the fact these people are out to destroy Sikhi stems from the fact that Sikhi is the ONLY true religion for the oppressed and downtrodden of the world. A minority of casteists do not define Sikhi - Dhan Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj define what Sikhi is all about. Our Panj Piare define what Sikhi is about. Dally the overwhelming majority of Pakistani Punjabi Muslims are Jatt (Jutt), Brahmin (Butt), Khatri (Sheikh), Saini (Arain), Rajput, Pathan, Awan (Rajput sept), Syeds, Baloch, Qureshi etc so-called "high castes" who marry their cousins to keep their caste purity. Muslims statistically have the highest percentage of higher castes. Punjabi Muslims banned who they term as "Chamar and Chuhre" from entering Mosques such that in west Punjab all of the aforementioned backgrounds converted to Christianity and Sikhi en masse. In contrast Sikhi and Buddhism have the highest percentages of supposedly "low caste" adherents and we are proud of that and our Panj Piare. 40% of our Panth is of Mazhabi and Ravidasi Sikh background which matches the percentage ancestry of Jatts (40%) among Sikhs nowadays. Furthermore, our Religion is the only religion where the overwhelming majority of the custodians of our Gurdwara's are from the same community that Muslims and Hindu's decry as the lowest of the low yet every Sikh is proud that Guru Sahib taught us "Rangrete Guru ke Bete" (the Oppressed Worldwide are the Guru's true sons). A minority of Congress-supporting casteist Tarkhans started off the cancer of apartheid Gurdwara franchises by excluding Jatts and Chamars and Bhatra's and all others from apartheid Ramgarhia committee's on Zail Sin's say-so at Sanjay Gandhi's behest. Because that is not the fight in 2022. The fight in 2022 is about ending Sikhi in east Punjab via apartheid. We have to fight this cancer in Punjab and the West by having only one united Gurdwara in every Pind in Punjab (and locality in the West). People like the Radha Soami Dhillon's, Majithia of Badal Dal, Ram Rahim Sidhu and Sonam Bajwa have all left Sikhi for financial gain. These multi-millionaires are not oppressed slaves as the Godi media would no doubt claim. 100% agree with you ProudKaur you are 100% correct on this point. People get triggered when anybody tries to prevent the inclusivity of the Sikh Panth and derail the future growth of Sikhi by restricting it to only 10% of Punjabi's actually born into the community. Are you aware that Bhai Mokham Singh of the Panj Piare were Gujarati? Are you aware that lots of Gujarati women are coming to Sikhi in the Diaspora while millionaire Punjabi Jatts that despise Sikhi run towards Churches (aka business franchises) in east Punjab?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42939192 100% agree with you

1. You are advocating Ethnic Cleansing which is the opposite of Gurmat. Sikhs were a minority in every district of Punjab in 1947 and constituted 14% of the Punjab population at the time. 2. That is exactly what Hindutva thinkers who hate Sikhi want you to say. They realise that if they put out enough hateful rhetoric on Twitter then some of our people will take the bait. The small minority of Hindu's who are Twittersphere haters against Sikhs realise that if they can provoke people into making the type of comments you have made then they can ensure that ONE BILLION poor Indians who are falsely defined as "Hindu's" can be prevented from learning about Sikhi and becoming sehajdhari Sikhs overnight and Sikhs comprising the majority of the Indian population in a country where the economy will have a size of around $42 TRILLION by around 2050. That's why need to stop giving oxygen to Twittersphere haters against Sikhs but work on encouraging converts as that will yield the Sikh Panth more dividends. 1.1 BILLION people cannot be generalised like this when a billion of them are poor and struggling in life and have never held a bad thought about Sikhs in their life. But we are ignoring parchaar to them despite our Panj Piare coming from as far afield Karnataka in south India and Gujarat in west India and Orissa in east India etc. There are paid goons in all Indian communities. KPS Gill, General Brar and the Punjab Police of the 1980's exemplify this too. But the 250 million people defined as so-called Dalits are natural born Sikhs if we only explain to them that East Punjab is the only state where: *the recent Chief Minister (Channi) was from a so-called "Dalit" background *the Chief Jathedar of the SGPC is from a so-called "Dalit" background *the majority of Granthi's & Gursewaks at Gurdwara's are from a so-called "Dalit" background *the number of so-called "Dalit" MLA's have consistently exceeded the number of Jat MLA's since 1980 *the majority of Kesdhari youth left in Punjab are from a so-called "Dalit" background *so-called "Dalits" comprise 33% of the east Punjab population in contrast to Jats who are 21% of the population *Singh Sabha was driven forward by Giani Ditt Singh Ji who was decried by Muslims and Hindu's for being a Chamar And given the majority of the Panj Piare were from a so-called "Dalit" background ... Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji was appointed the leader of the Sikh Fauj by Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj despite the Muslims scoffing that according to the Mughals we Sikhs were led by just a "Chamar" in their eyes. Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji as we all know were among the bravest of the brave despite the Muslims hunting for them as a "Bihari Churha" (in Muslim eyes) whilst Guru Sahib proclaimed "Rangrete Guru Ke Bete" (Dalits are Guru Sahib's own beloved sons). We as Diaspora Sikhs need to up our game and stop being so weak in doing sewa and parchaar about Sikhi to 250 million so-called "Dalits" We could make a start towards this by ensuring only one united Gurdwara for all in every pind in Punjab and every locality in the West.

The Jews I have interacted with are very good people and indeed surprisingly some of them were aware of 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of the Sikh population was killed there. But they lack awareness about the Vadda Ghallughara in which 90% of the Sikh Qaum was killed by Muslims. Obviously Israel was established with the help of the USA and the UK back in 1948. However, with the USA, Russia, UK, France, Canada all supporting Delhi and realising that India will have an economy of around $42 TRILLION by the year 2050 these countries have no appetite to assist set up an independent landlocked homeland for Sikhs which has zero strategic value to their own interests and would lose them trillions of dollars of trade. https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/research-insights/economy/the-world-in-2050.html The best Sikhs can do to ensure the Delhi is never allowed to repeat any Genocides against Sikhs again as inflicted by the Mughals and Indira Gandhi is increase parchaar to one billion poor Indians who are currently falsely defined as "Hindu's". Additionally if Pakistan could split into Balochistan, Sindh Desh, Pashtunistan and West Punjab then the glue (Pakistan) that holds India together would disintegrate. Mind you with Sikhs being a minority in Doaba and on course to comprise a minority of the east Punjab population by the 2031 census we need to focus on parchaar and encouraging people to join the Sikh Panth before we spend too much time looking for parallels between Sikhs and Jews in terms of Israel.

That is a symptom of internalised racism on the part of a small minority of mixed race people you may be talking about but the vast majority of people who have parents from two different backgrounds are closer to Sikhi in their thinking and agreeing with Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj's ideology of kul nash (Vaisakhi 1699) and the eradication of all false man-made identity labels when Sikhi is the only meaningful identity we as Sikhs should care about. I agree it's bizarre as to how Pakistani's have convinced some African Americans that the religion of white Arab Slavemaster and white Arab Slave Trader like Prophet Muhammad is supposedly a good religion for them (especially a man like Muhammad who even sold black children for financial profit as the Quran allows Muslims to do). However, it is on us as Sikhs to turn the tables, do parchaar and explain that Sikhi is the only religion that opposes Slavery head on. At a stroke the Sikh Panth would be massively strengthened via new African Diaspora Sikhs and among the projected 4 billion population of Africa by the end of this century.

I don't think any kaaleh have ever said that not a single kaala in the World can ever be racist. The blatant racism of the Nation of Islam being a pretty obvious example. I think the argument is more along the lines of if WASPS control in excess of a thousand times more wealth than African Americans (despite relatively matching populations) then the impact of the minority of black racism upon others cannot be as pronounced as when one holds power. Ie Muslims can also be racist in America but their impact upon non-Muslims in America will not be as pronounced as their racism and how they can impact their black slaves in a country like Mauritania (where Muslims hold all of the power structures in their hands). Sowell correctly observes that gangster rap, drill music, contemorary Punjabi music are a cancer which are planting insidious messaging into the folks that listen to them. But when we know that the powers that be in Washington, London and Delhi all benefit from those said music forms and promote them to serve their interests then that aspect is crucial not to ignore. Sowell talks about Scottish ancestry "redneck culture" holding back African Americans. But the well known reality is that Scottish ancestry Presidents are *the* most over-represented ethnic background of all American Presidents in per capita demographic terms. And the same applies for Scottish ancestry among Canada, Australia and New Zealand Prime Ministers. In contrast African Americans are the most under-represented community among Senators despite their 50million population. Ie Sowell cannot say that Jatts are held back on account of their tribal ancestry in Pakistan when they are so heavily over-represented in controlling all the levers of power there - Bajwa (Army Chief), Sidhu (Pakistan Air Force Chief), Chaudhary (Niazi's spokesman), Gill (Niazi's special adviser), Pinki Pirni (Niazi's wife) etc, etc. So if Sowell was to say that the same tribe of people in eastern Punjab are supposedly being held back in India on account of their tribe's culture in Pakistan it would have zero validity as we can see how successful they are on the Pakistani side of the border where the majority of Jatts live. So that type of simplistic analysis simply doesn't cut it or hold water.

You know what's shocking Dally is the comparison between two sides of the border and the two opposing mentalities. On one hand General Qamar Jatt Bajwa has been ruling Pakistan since 2016. Obviously Taliban Khan Niazi was the selected sock-puppet civilian face Prime Minister below Bajwa's boots for three and half years recently. But the bottom line is Bajwa has his hands on the nuclear button which could destroy Amritsar and Delhi in a second. His dream is of 13,000 fully functioning Mosques in east Punjab to create a 13million strong "fifth column" in east Punjab. General Bajwa has been the brains behind all the tourism ideas to milk and exploit naive Sikhs for hard currency profits which the Pakistani Army can use to further terrorism and send drugs to East Punjab (whilst simultaneously ensuring that naive Sikhs don't spend those funds wasted in Pakistan upon uplifting our poorer brothers and sisters in east Punjab). On the other hand the most famous Bajwa and the most famous and well paid actress on the eastern side of the border is this wretched Miss Bajwa who was born to rich Sikh parents but now aggressively uses her platform for RAW and American bible bashers to promote Christianity so that east Punjab is destroyed from within. So that Christians and Muslims can push Sikhs to being a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census. And yet despite all this our people still shamelessly patronise her pathetic films.

Nobody is putting down the Sikh Qaum. It's about ensuring that the Sikh Panth is welcoming to everyone and ensuring that we are part of the solution (rather than part of the problem) when it comes to dismantling oppression against African Americans by systemic white supremacy racism in place since the start of Slavery. So Gurjant Singh as a Sikh opposes domestic violence. Gurjant Singh as an Irish American is NOT racist against white folks. But he does call out racism by a minority of white troublemakers. Gurjant Singh could care less about articficial labels imposed on united Sikhs by the racist British Empire but yes he does denounce caste apartheid and the depraved practice of caste-based apartheid Golak's and yes like most normal Sikhs Gurjant Singh proudly advocates for only one united Gurdwara per pind in Punjab (or locality in the west). Criticising you for your derogratory posts against kaaleh does not mean he was negative about Sikhs - it means he was negative about the content of some of your posts. Gurjant Singh condemns incidences of racism regardless of who might perpetrate them. Do you live in the real world and interact with real people? Or is interacting with Twittersphere trolls the limit of your intercation with a 50million strong community? Twitter = Troll City central. If there are a minority of rabid Hindutva touts online hating on Sikhs should we abandon all Parchaar to one billion poor so-called Hindu's because the hatemongers wish to see Sikhi limited to as few people as possible? What will you achieve by giving oxygen to Twittersphere trolls? Why not focus on how you can encourage on the silent majority of African Americans who are not racist but still suffer unfair racist discrimination. Would say all of the things you are posting online to Rihanna's face or on her Twitter handle?

Ok if you want to restrict the breakdown to that, then Sikh fatalities on a per capita basis exceeded Punjabi Muslims by SIX times! Sikhs suffered SIX times as many losses in per capita terms compared to Punjabi Muslims and THIRTY times as many losses compared to Muslims in the sub-continent. What's ridiculous is that despite the existential threat faced by Sikhs - complete Genocide at the hands of Muslims if the 14% minority Sikh population had not resisted east Punjab being annexed by Pakistan in 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in the same way that Mirpur District and Gilgit-Baltistan were annexed by Pakistan. Sikhs are always wrongly blamed as the main "bad guys" by these pathetic racist British Empire and racist Muslim academics despite our community being annihilated the most!

1. The location for one. The Pakistani's are so intelligent at exploting tourism revenue from naive Sikhs (so that we cannot spend that same money wasted in Pakistan upon poor Sikhs in east Punjab) that they will happily dress up any old mosque with a cooked up story of association with Ranjit Singh knowing that Sikhs will lap it up without critical analysis. As per the famous recent lie bandied about since 1984 about Guru Sahib building a Mosque for Muslims. These lies are insidious and do massive damage to the Panth. 2. Look at the source! A gorah Christian! Bear in mind they had to cook up these stories to convert Ranjit Singh's son to Christianity and convince him of the supposed depraved savagery of Sikhi. There is no case of a political leader, King or Ruler in 19th century history whereby the top dog kept his religion and the wife or wives kept on praying to Slavemaster Muhammad or a Shivling. These falsehoods strain credulity beyond belief. It's almost like they remembered that the Muslims boast in the Quran and Hadiths Muhammad had thirteen wives and harem slavegirls that he used to satisfy in one night so they had to try and almost match that for Ranjit Singh with the added falsehood that most women should supposedly (using the false British Empire logic) never even bother becoming Sikh upon marriage to a Sikh man. All of the Hindu and Muslim slavegirls that the Khalsa Fauj rescued from abuse and slavery at the hands of the Islamic armies became new Sikhs via Anand Karaj as they realised that Sikhi is the only faith that offers respect, dignity and equality to women.

1. I disagree. Imho that is the new age propaganda being fed to the Qaum in order to create 13,000 Mosques in each and every Pind in Punjab. What we as Sikhs need to do is ensure only one united Gurdwara per Pind to prevent Pakistan from achieving it's dream of 13million Muslims in east Punjab in the future. 2. The population of Muslims in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh is around 600million plus. The population of Sikhs is around 20million plus in those three aforementioned countries. What that means is if 25% of the Sikh population were killed tomorrow that would be 5 million Sikh deaths. Let's take your argument at face value that an equal number of Muslims were killed ... ie for argument's sake a hypothetical 5million. 5 million out of 600 million equates to 0.8% of the Muslim population in the sub-continent. Meaning that Sikh victim fatalities on a per capita basis exceeded Muslim losses by a factor of 30 times! Thirty times! Just to ram this point home. Russia invades Ukraine and has approximately of let's say roughly a 3 times larger population. Both sides suffer an equal number of casualties. What that would then mean is that Ukrainian losses are 3 times more than Russian ones in per capita terms. Furthermore are you aware that Jinnah and his Muslim Jatt friend Liaquat Ali Khan (1st Prime Minister of Pakistan) intended to annexe all of present day Punjab (and Haryana) all the way up to Delhi (just like they annexed the part of Kashmir known as Pakistani-occupied Kashmir part of which is famous for it's Punjabi-speaking Mirpuri Jatt population that is quite numerous in the UK). The Muslim Jatts, Muslim Rajputs (Ranghars), Muslim Brahmins (Butt's like Iqbal) etc knew they had a 4 to 1 numerical advantage in Punjab over Sikhs and that Sikhs were less numerous than Muslims even in Majha and Doaba (and indeed Sikhs were even a minority in Malwa in 1947). They perceived Sikhs to have gone soft over time. Their thinking (somewhat like Putin's) was that Hindu's were cowards and that one in seven of the population that were Sikh could not prevent the annexation of the entire Punjab into Pakistan (including the Lal Qila of Delhi into this enlarged vision of Pakistan). The Sikhs realised this existential threat upon attacks from various Muslim Jatt, Muslim Rajput (Rangarh), Muslim Saini (Arain), Muslim Gujjar etc villages in present day east Punjab during 1947. In other words though it has become fashionable to parrot that Sikhs are just as bad the reality is that Sikhs were facing complete annihilation and Genocide if east Punjab had been successfully annexed into Pakistan (the way that Mirpur District was annexed into Pakistan by Jinnah). Even so, despite seeing off the existential threat that Sikhs faced in 1947 (as Ukraine seems to have done at this point in time) the Sikh Panth still ended up with 30 times the number of casualties as the Muslims on a per capita basis during the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs.

Will try and dig those out for you Singh. I believe the explanation to be that on that occasion Akali Phula Singh actually caught Ranjit Singh drinking, 1. Yes. Anand Karaj always meant that regardless of erstwhile faith that those joined in holy matrimony thereafter became Sikh. Thus during the 1881-1941 period when the Sikh population almost doubled (following steep declines after annexation by the British Empire) that many couples who were both Hindu (bride and groom) and both Muslim (bride and groom) became new Sikhs as Anand Karaj was a free blessing that poor people were given which Mandir's and Mosques denied to the poor and socially ostracised. 2. No! Absolutely not! That is another urban myth cooked up by the enemies of the Sikh Panth who want to see 13,000 fully operational Mosques in each and every village of Punjab. What's more ridiculous is that these enemies of the Sikh Panth have gone above and beyond the lie that Ranjit Singh built mosques and mandirs to even stating that Guru Sahib built a Mosque and Muhammad Izhar Alam even promoted this depraved lie in cahoots with neo-Nihangs a few years back.

I 100% agree with you on this point and if you are in a position to act as an educational mentor for schoolgoing Sikh and West Indian children that are sitting exams (but lack the presence of a father figure - which highly impacts on educational and life outcomes - as one of the worst legacies of Slavery) then I would highly encourage you to look into that. Because sewa and support for the oppressed and downtrodden will yield the greatest dividends for both of the communities mutually and which can achieve so much united together under Sri Nishan Sahib.

@Deep It in no way means we should keep quiet about an increasingly dangerous mindset and behaviour from the said community. Nobody has said that we can't make our bazurgs aware of the danger from a minority of troublemakers but what was being suggested is that against the backdrop of Patrick Lyoya's killing and the creation of links between Sikh organisations and those seeking to uplift the American American community that greater awareness of who Sikhs are relayed by African American activists themselves would yield greater dividends in terms of the safety of Sikh bazurgs as well as inter-community cohesion and mutual support. What an absolutely ridiculous response! I agree, if a racist experiences racism then there is not much they can complain about lol. That's exactly what I said. In your subsequent you put words into my mouth that I had never stated as I condemn racism in ALL instances. But are you saying innocent Punjabis who are racially abused have no right to complain because a minority of Punajbis who are not even known to them exhibit racist beliefs? Can you provide any quote of mine where I have ever said that as I have never said but you seem to responding to points which I have never ever made lol. Unless you are implying 'ALL' Punjabis are racist? I specifically stated that a MINORITY of Punjabi's are racist that it's not limited to a 'couple of crackheads with mental issues'? That was my guess on the Richmond Hill attacks. It would be naive to assume that there are not racists like the Nation of Islam out there. Also, convenient how you didn't give an excuse as to why they are also the largest perpetrators of racial violence in the UK where South Asians outnumber them. White Supremacist establishment forces programming West Indian youth to fail via encouragement of Drill music springs to mind. Surely you are aware that in east Punjab the non-Sikhs who control the so-called Punjabi entertainment are filling the youth's minds with the same nonsense (albeit marginally less violent). My point was that since African Americans are the biggest victims of racial attacks in the US and that white Trump supporters are responsible for most of the attacks against East Asians why are two incidents that the Police have not established the motivation behind being used to seemingly present that African Americans are the main problem when it comes to Donald Trump and his supporters (who are overwhelmingly white) attacks upon east Asians? Attacks on East Asians and other ethnic minorities by Black racists has been going on well before Trump came on to the scene politically. Go into East Asian neighbourhoods throughout the US and they will tell you this is not a new problem. Indeed Korean shops were targetted as far back as the LA riots. That is condemnable and I have always urged strict punishment for the gangbangers as the community that suffers most from them is African Americans themselves. Yes, Covid has caused an upsurge in the violent racist attacks against them but it has been going on for decades But the fact remains that the vast majority of attacks against East Asians are carried out by white Trump supporter types. At least one of the Richmond Hill attacks has been established as a hate crime But i condemn all hate crimes - not least of which those against elders of my own community. I am happy for both attacks to be prosecuted as hate crimes if it means the despicable attackers can be kept in jail for longer. That said it doesn't detract from the agenda that needs to be pursued with the African American community in order to raise awareness of who Sikhs, increase parchaar and offer our moral support in the challenges they face against systematic racism. How can I be fobbing off these murders of elderly Chinese folks by mostly white attackers when I wholeheartedly condemn Trump supporters for their violence against East Asians? Where did you jump to that extrapolation from? Because you made light of it by comparing it to a couple of slaps Not at all. You have completely misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying that in the context of Patrick Lyoya's killing, Police brutality by certain officers against numerous African Anericans, the NRA and deep-state establishment promoted murders of thousands of African Americans via black on black violence that we need to keep in context that two non-fatal attacks against Sikh bazurgs are problematic but not the be all and end all of how racism impacts American lives (in which African Americans are overwhelmingly the VICTIMS).

1. He was whipped for drinking alcohol and not on account of the urban myth promoted by Mullah's that it was because of erstwhile birth religion of his (Sikh) wife Moran Kaur. 2. It's an urban myth cooked up by Mullahs (yet imbibed by our own without critical analysis) designed to prevent Sikh males from taking wives from the majority Punjabi community and thus increasing the strength of Sikh demographics in Ranjit Singh's raj (which would have left many Muslim men childless as a result and possibly prevented the partition of Punjab over a century later). Think about it logically why would Guru Sahib prevent Sikh men from California from marrying from one of a pool of one billion (Muslim) women today so long as via Anand Karaj (with the bride accepting Sikhi by default via the puratan definition that anyone bowing down before Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj is a Sikh) and the children being raised Sikh. We know from history that the Khalsa Fauj married many of the rescued Hindu and Muslim slavegirls that were being abused and mistreated by Muslim men. 3. His alcohol intake and debauchery were exactly what caused him to be whipped. 1. Sikh faith does not arise from birth or parentage but via conviction as we see in the example of Bhai Mardana Ji the first Sikh in History (who was an apostate from Islam as we see when Wali Qandhari tried to murder Bhai Mardana Ji and Guru Sahib for that very reason). 2. Agreed

Imagine if Uncle Sam's $2 Trillion wasted there had spent to uplift those billions in the Global South (primarily in sub-Saharan Africa and Asia)! Sardar Hari Singh Nalwa and the Sikh Fauj never had a problem! But yes I think for now Diaspora Sikhs sitting in the UK can focus on: *The UK has spent 1.5billion pounds in the last 12 months housing 95% Muslim economic migrants in Hotels. *The UK Government has subsidised the terrorist state of Pakistan with 5 billion pounds just in the last 10 years *Meanwhile the UK Government supported and co-ordinated the 1984 Congress Genocide of Sikhs. Preet Kaur Gill as the shadow Development Secretary needs to come up with a multi-billion social development package that the UK needs to offer to Sikhs in east Punjab (and the widows and descendants of 1984 outside Punjab) as reparations just for the 1984 Congress Genocide of Sikhs that the UK assisted. That doesn't even take into account the reparations that Sikhs are owed for 1947 (but are never likely to receive). But is beyond disgusting that Pakistan and Muslim economic migrants get this massive level of economic support from the UK but the UK's Sikh victims in the Genocide in which the UK collaborated, supported and advised Indira Gandhi still results in zero support for Sikh social issues in India as a result.