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7 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:
We are the do-gooder boy scouts.
I think historically 99.9 per cent of the time we never got involved in the skirmishes between other groups.
But 0.1 per cent time we did (probably at the behest of one of the groups) is what gets amplified. It's basically a narrative that needs to be stamped out.
The subcontinent people have always had a habit making things that happens 0.1 per cent of the time as a regular occurance. The people have a habit of embellishing and exaggerating things.
We are a divided kaum, one group is busy with doing langar here and there and other group is busy in kaam/mauj /party and among them is very few who raises legimate issue and tries to stop anti sikhi activities like inter religion marriages in gurdwara and raising awareness regarding forced conversion into xtian but this group is such a small that it doesn't create much impact in the internet age.
That's where I don't like quantity vs quality debate we need numbers if we had numbers like muslims, and hindus even if among them like 1% would be true to panth still that would count to 10 to 15 million people and this is a big group in social media age and these people can shape narratives .
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On 8/22/2022 at 1:44 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
What would their motive be? It looks inoffensive and cohesive with Gurmat if I'm reading it right.
Do you know that British government even declared nihang as criminals ? They wanted to tame Sikhs do that they won't challenge their rule and by promoting passimism in the panth can be helpful for them. These were the sane guys who changed our musical instruments .
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On 8/24/2022 at 7:35 PM, proudkaur21 said:The bhai kanhaiya syndrome is an excuse. The real reason is societal acceptance from the majority of the world population who are either Christian,Muslims or Hindus. It is the same reason they say all religions lead to God. They are scared of being alienated from the world majority by acknowledging their paths are false. That is why they try to not offend people from different religions even in Sikh spaces or even try to appease LGBTQ people. If Sikhs had a state of their own which was well developed and political power they would not act like this to such an extent.
How could a landlocked and small state project it's power ?
Sikh leaders never were visionary, in this current age of democracy/ public opinion age , the majority always dominate.
Somebody who offended someone's prophet in india become huge outcry worldwide but you won't hear much about how many SGGS was damaged by others .
Sikhs have become pawn of liberals, muzzies, and hindus and they play siksh for their own political/ other benefits when they need them.
1984 happened and army did lot's of <banned word filter activated> but you would still see Sikh still going into indian armies. The panth is filled with fuddus who are only interested in their own wellbeing but they might also shout about sikhi this and that in gurdwara .
There is a reason why sikhi never spreaded much outside of Punjab and I can say that sikhi even failed in Punjab ( west Punjab, himachal, haryana) because majority of the people didn't adopted sikhi and that's why you never could have a sikh State.
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18 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:His point is kind of right . The only problem is that people who are anti-muslim are most likely to be anti-sikh too so we shouldn't have solidarity with these people. The only thing is we both understand the dangers of Islam but that is it. We need to make dharmic people beware of Abrahamic religions.
That's why you need your own land and country . because otherwise you would be mercy of dominant group in outside in india it's hindu, muslim and in west it's liberal, conservative far right . Our leaders were <banned word filter activated>, they thought of short term gain then long term vision of creating their own country by any means.
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21 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:Most Islamic countries do not have the resources to support such huge numbers. Let them increase in their own countries who cares but the issue comes up with their numbers in non muslim societies. They have wiped out non muslims in their countries so why should non muslim countries take them in? That is why they win because we are just fools.
Because of economic reason . All those wealthy western countries population are declining quicker and they lack skilled and non skilled workers so they want more immigrants and in which many muslims also comes through it, because they can hire them for cheapest amount and muslim also get improves their own living standard, as well as they spread their own ideology by building more mosques, demanding Sharia laws. At the end they would win.
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On 4/1/2022 at 6:01 PM, proudkaur21 said:
someone was telling me how Sikhs are better off in western countries and we will have power and rights. What happened now?
Don't worry those same group of Sikhs would one day say to you that Sikhs would have better rights and power on Mars .
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6 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:Our gurudwaras are being used by people to hoard money for themselves. The sangat should be the decider of what happens to the funds. Who gave these people the right to decide what the funds should be used on? They literally think they own the panths money at this point and that they can do with it as they please. I honestly think we should stop donating to gurudwaras and start a platform where people can donate money to various causes so we know exactly what the money is being used for. Also I think we should stop langar at gurudwaras. Literally 99% people go to gurudwaras to eat pizza samosas for free. This needs to be stopped.
Yeah, I also came to this conclusion some times. Sometimes I also think of not donating to gurdwara and most of the sangat only appear during gurparab and I don't think they would come much if there wasn't any langar.
Whereas Sikhs who is going to gurdwara are not even paying attention to learning spritual part of sikhi and Gyani ji also seems not interested much while performing paath.
Other religions especially abrahmic ones put more effort in distributing and spreading knowledge about spritual side of bible,Quran and they explain in such a way that it convinces huge audience. That's why missionary are getting more follower in Punjab and Sikhs neither understand their own religion and they don't even propagate it to others .
Sikhs have become just a bunch of idealistic clown.
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Why worry about satkar of photo , when guru ji himself forbidden idol worshipping ? photo is also just an idol ,don't you see that ?
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