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Program for Sunday 31st March 2013: Panthic SEMINAR AZAADEE Dedicated to Ghadar Movement on Sunday 31st March, 10.30am - 1pm 10.30-11.30 kirtan by Bh. Harpreet Singh ji followed by seminar on 100 years of the Ghadar Movement.. Special Q&A on Sunday 31st March, 4 - 5.30pm by Sangat TV Raensbhai Kirtan MAIN INTERNATIONAL RAENSBHAI KIRTAN from 6.30pm-5am

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Saturday 30th March 2013 program at Sri Guru Singh, Derby. Saturday 30th March 2013: Asa Di Vaar Kirtan: 5.30-10am Special historical PANTH TIME by Sikh Channel tomorrow Saturday 30th March 2013 from 3pm-5pm at Singh Sabha Derby. Panel includes Bh. Harpreet Singh, G. Kulvinder Singh, Dr Daljit Singh. Rehras Sahib 5.30pm then Gurbani Veechar & Akhand Kirtan: 6pm-12am. All sangat is requeted to attend all program's.

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AKJ UK cordially invites all organisations, gurdwara sahibs, uk youth and saad sangat to attend a major panthic seminar during its Annual smagam on Sun 31st Mar at Gurdwara Singh Sabha Derby 10.30am to 1pm. It will be dedicated to the 100th anniversary of the Ghadar movement which was formed in 1913 to gain independance from the british, homage will be paid to shaheed Bhai Kartar Singh Sarabha, Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh and all other freedom fighters. Talks, presentations will be done in English and Panjabi from the start of the ghadar movement and the incidents of partition, Panjabi suba aggetation, Amritsar 1978 shaheedi saka, 1984 darbar sahib attack and the on going onslaughts of the Sikh panth. Bhai Harpreet Singh Canada will do kirtan seva, ardaas benti will also be done for the first shaheedi anniversary of Bhai Jaspal Singh Gurdaspur. The seminar will be live on tv.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Akhand Kirtani Jatha UKs Annual INTERNATIONAL AKHAND KIRTAN SMAGAM 2013 will commemorate via the essence of Shabad Guru, Vaisakhi and 100th Anniversary of the Start of The Ghadar Movement (1913-2013) & The Vaisakhi Massacre of 1978 in Amritsar from Monday 25th March - Sunday 31st March 2013 Akhand Kirtani Jatha UK invites you to join sangat from all over the world for the 18th Annual International Akhand Kirtan Event. Many kirtani jathas and sevadaars from around the world will be taking part in kirtan seva. Gursikh Kirtanis have been invited from India, France, Australia, USA, Canada and throughout the Guru Khalsa Panth Advert Smagam Breakdown The programme details listed below will take place at Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby : - Monday 25th March - Wednesday 27th March 2013 Sri Akhand Patth Sahib: 10am Arambh - 6pm Bhog followed by: Rehras Sahib 6pm then Gurbani Veechar & Akhand Kirtan: 6-9pm Thursday 28th March 2013: Asa Di Vaar Kirtan: 5.30-9am Rehras Sahib 6pm then Gurbani Veechar & Akhand Kirtan: 6-10pm Friday 29th March 2013: Asa Di Vaar Kirtan: 5.30-10am Rehras Sahib 6pm then Gurbani Veechar & Akhand Kirtan: 6-10pm Saturday 30th March 2013: Asa Di Vaar Kirtan: 5.30-10am Rehras Sahib 6pm then Gurbani Veechar & Akhand Kirtan: 6pm-12am Sunday 31st March 2013: Panthic Seminar: 10.30am-1pm Raensbhai Kirtan MAIN INTERNATIONAL RAENSBHAI KIRTAN ON Sunday 31st March 2013 from 7pm-5am at Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Princes Street, Derby, DE23 8NT. Tel : 01332 773010 For further details contact Gen Sec Bhai Rajinder Singh (07966 974505), email sevaa@akj.org Amrit Sanchaar AMRIT SANCHAAR: Sunday 31st March at 5pm at Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Derby Can all ablakhyees contact Bhai Taranjeet Singh (07877 888874) to provide their names for the Amrit sanchaar. If you have questions, you can contact Jathedar Raghbir Singh on 01926 741 944 or Bhai Jarnail Singh on 01926 771 944 If any persons do not have full kakaars, then AKJ UK will provide them as part of the seva. Live Broadcast The whole Smagam & Raensbhai will be broadcast live on www.akj.org, Sangat TV (SKY 847) and Sikh Channel (SKY 840) Additional Programmes Special PANTH TIME on Saturday 30th March from 3pm - 5pm by Sikh Channel · Panthic SEMINAR AZAADEE Dedicated to Ghadar Movement on Sunday 31st March, 10.30am - 1pm · Special Q&A on Sunday 31st March, 4 - 5.30pm by Sangat TV · Gurbani Kantth Competition on Saturday 30th March, 2 - 6pm Contact: Giani Kulvinder Singh for details 07891 837208 · Special exhibitions will be on display in National Sikh Museum covering history from the Guru Khalsa Panths, the 1978 Shaheedi Saka and Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Accommodation Accommodation has been arranged for the whole Smagam. Bibian accommodation has been specially arranged. For further details, contact Bhai Bhupinder Singh on 07719225401 Airport Pickups Transport will be arranged for all Gursikhs arriving from abroad at Heathrow, Gatwick, Birmingham, and all other UK Airports. Please contact Bhai Onkar Singh (07737749556). Coach Transport Coaches/Mini-buses will leave from the following towns for the Raensbhai Keertan in Derby on Sun 31st March. Please reserve your seats with your town reps ASAP. * Southall - Singh Sabha Havelock Rd at 5pm, Sevadaar Bhai Japsimran Singh 07400896809 * Slough - Khalsa School Wexham Rd at 5.30 pm, Sevadaar Bhai Onkar Singh 07737 749556 * Ilford - Singh Sabha High Rd, at 5pm. Sevadaar Bhai Upkar Singh 07747 770156 * Coventry - Singh Sabha Cross Rd at 6.30pm, Sevadaar Bhai Kulwant Singh 07854136413 * Woolwich - Ramgharia Gurdwara, Mason Hill, at 5pm, Sevadaar Bibi Navrup Kaur 07747 534502 * Croydon - Singh Sabha at 5pm. Sevadaar Bhai Harvinder Singh 07979 515849 * Tooting - Khalsa Centre Upper Tooting Rd at 4.30pm. Sevadaar Bhai Harvinder Singh 07979515849 * Gravesend - New Guru Nanak Gurdwara at 5pm, Sevadaar Bhai Seva Singh 07831 712430 * Manchester - Guru Harkrishan Gurdwara 6pm, Sevadaar Bhai Gurdip Singh / Bhai Jaskirat Singh 07723 921414 * Hitchin - Gurdwara, Wilbury Way at 5.30pm, Sevadaar Bhai Harkamal Singh 07816361811 * Leamington - New Gurdwara at 6.30pm, Sevadaar Bhai Joginder Singh 07723 367871 * South Shields - Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Kaas, at 5pm, Sevadaar Bhai Karnail Singh 07801 431855 * Reading - Singh Sabha, Cumberland Rd at 5pm, Sevadaar Bhai Parminder Singh 07984451061 * Bradford - Guru Nanak Gurdwara, Wakefield Road at 6pm, Sevadaar Bhai Maadho Singh 07850 947723 * Glasgow - Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Berkley Street, at 2pm, Sevadaar Bhai Manjit Singh 07769 354507 All other UK gurdwara's are requested to provide transport for their local sangat. Please ring the designated area sevadaar to book your places on the coaches. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Month, Akhand Kirtani Jatha will be doing in addition to the above UK smagam, other smagams in Anandpur Sahib, Amritsar & Bathinda (India), Stockholm & Barcelona (Europe), Maryland, Boston, Bay Area (USA), Vancouver (Canada) and Melbourne (Australia). Many of these will be broadcast live on www.akj.org. Recordings of smagams from Vancouver ( Canada ), California-Bay , New Jersey ( USA ), Seattle (USA), Bathinda ( India ) are now available to download on www.akj.org. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!! Das Akhand Kirtani Jatha UK Jathedar Raghbir Singh For Smagam Details : Bhai Jaspal Singh 07788597073 / Bhai Bhupinder Singh 07719225401

There isn't a separate AKJ London and midlands, they all come under AKJ UK. Seems you have a particular problem with AKJ type parchar.. You still haven't said what your problem with it is, have you tries approaching them to do a prog?

Exactly what I was going to say. I am not aware of dhunda going there or any other missionary parcharaks.

Not sure about the politics of DDT, but Bhai Raam Singh just addressed this issue on Sangat TV. He said Baba Takhur Singh gave this to him a year and a half prior to his Akal chalana. He sati he has written proof. Also upon his Akal chalana, he was established as the mukhi by the panj takht sahibaan.. He aslo challenged te other heads to give their view on when they were made mukhi..

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Hopefully all other jathebandis will follow.. ------------- Head of Damdami Taksaal, Singh Sahib Giani Ram Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale, visits Singh Sabha Gurdwara Derby to meet AKJ UK Executive Committee members to discuss ways forward to work together in uniting the Panth and tackling the following issues: 1) Gurudom 2) Rising Patit-punna (Apostasy) 3) Crime, Drugs and Social Evils in Panjab 4) Hatred and controversy being spread and Maryada differences being manipulated in the youth on Facebook, or media 5) Respecting Sri Akal Takht Sahib Maryada and not opposing it Baba Ram Singh Ji discussed in the meeting that the historically Damdami Taksaal and AKJ have had a lot pyaar, and the differences on issues like Raagmala and Mool Mantar has never been an issue and nor debated by the early Singhs. Baba Ji was concerned at how youngsters could use these issues to create divide and hate. Baba Ji said AKJ used to come to Mehta to do Keertan and Taksaal Singhs attended Rainsbaayees.

Why do some Sikhs believe 'Keski' as the Kakkaar and not 'Kesh'.5 views5 Ks, akhand kirtani jatha, akj, kakar, kakkar, kes, kesh, keski Sikh Articles of Faith & Identity According to the Panthic Sikh Rehit Maryada, published by the SGPC: The five Ks are: I. Kesh (unshorn hair), II. Kirpan {sheathed sword} (The length of the sword to be worn is not prescribed., III. Kachhehra (The Kachhehra (drawers like garment) may be made from any cloth, but its legs should not reach down to below the shins.), IV. Kanga (comb), V. Karha {steel bracelet} (The Karha should be of pure iron.) According to the present day Damdami Taksaal Maryada, Keski is not considered a Kakkaar, however a Keski should be worn for the protection of the hair and a larger turban should be tied over the Keski. Wearing a Keski is not enforced on women but it is favoured as it helps to keep the sanctity of the Kesh. During the time of Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindranwale, many women who took Amrit adorned a Keski (turban) to cover their Kesh. Sant Jis own wife and daughters adorned a Keski. However, Sant Jarnail Singh Jis wife did not wish to wear a Keski. The Gurmat Rehat Maryada written by Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale states: Page 17 of the translated copy of Gurmat Rehat Maryada written by Sant Giani Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, published by Damdami Taksaal Some Sikhs and Panthic groups, in particular the Akhand Kirtani Jatha, believe Keski is Kakkaar, not Kesh. Those Gursikhs who argue Keski is Kakkaar, argue the following: All the other Kakkaars are physical items and external uniform, whereas everyone is born with Kesh and Kesh cannot be worn as a uniform. A Sikh is prohibited from dishonouring the Kesh as one of the four cardinal taboos, and therefore, to say Kesh is Kakkar is repeating the same message. A Keski has to be worn to protect and respect the Kesh. WHAT IS KESKI? Keski/ Kesgi/ Chhoti Dastaar: According to Mahan Kosh, Keski is: ਛੋਟੀ ਪੱਗ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਕੇਸਾਂ ਦੀ ਰਿਖਆ ਲਈ ਪਿਹਰੀ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।. In other words, Keski is small turban (chhottee dastaar) that is kept on at all times and is worn underneath the larger turban. A Keski is usually half the length of a full turban. It can be from 2 to 3 metres of cotton material (A keski should have at least 3 wraps around the head). The Dastaar is a mark of visual identity, which conveys royalty, grace and uniqueness. The Dastaar represents complete commitment. Practising Sikh men and women both are instructed to wear the Dastaar. It is a spiritual crown reminding a Sikh that he or she sits on the throne of consciousness, committed to higher principles. Practically, it keeps the hair clean, contained and stabilizes the main larger turban (usually worn by men). In addition to this, the Keski or Dastaar is worn to protect the head and show respect to the Dasam Dwaar (spiritual energy gate on top of the head, where one experiences the Divine within). One Gursikh described the Keski as the following: We meet Waheguru via our Dasam Dwaar. Our Dasam Dwaar is located on top of our head. We do all different types of sewa (service) to please Waheguru, yet we must remember to do the sewa of adorning our Dasam Dwaar because it is here where we meet Waheguru. Keski (turban) is the seva of Dasam Duaar. The Keski (short turban) is kept on the head at all times, even when sleeping. During having a shower or drying ones hair, the Keski can be wrapped around the waist. HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE Historically both Sikh men and women wore at least the short turban (Keski). Right up to the reign of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Sikh women had been steadfast in following the edicts of the Guru which included wearing the Dastaar. This was also witnessed by English observers in the Panjab during this time. Well known 19th Century English Historian, J. D. Cunningham (1812-1851) who was an eye witness to the First Anglo-Sikh War, in his History of the Sikhs 1848 refers to Sikh women of that time as follows: The Sikh women are distinguished from Hindus of their sex by some variety of dress, chiefly by a higher topknot of hair. Higher topknot of hair on Sikh womens heads automatically implies their coverage by some sort of turban, as Cunningham has connected it with some variety of dress. Even after the Punjab came under the British rule, this article of faith of the Keski was conspicuously seen in case of Sikh women as well as men right up to the Gurdwara movement and the establishment of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) in 1926. Until then, no one man as well as woman was allowed to be initiated (by taking Amrit) at Sri Akal Takht Sahib without a Keski. It was only afterwards that laxity was introduced in this respect and the wearing of Keski was made optional. With the introduction of this laxity, the other anti-Sikh practice of wearing piercing ornaments in the nose and ears also became prevalent in Sikh women. Many people quote that in the Dasam Granth it is stated that Kesh is the Kakkaar and use this as proof to discredit the claims that Keski is the Kakkaar. They quote the following: ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨਿ ਸਿਖੀ ਈ ਪੰਜ ਹਰਫ ਕਾਫ | ਹਰਗਿਜ਼ ਨ ਬਾਸ਼ਦ ਈਂ ਪੰਜ ਮੁਆਫ਼ | ਕੜਾ ਕਾਰਦੋ ਕ੍ਨਛ ਕੰਘਾ ਬਿਦਾਂ | ਬਿਲਾ ਕੇਸ ਹੇਚ ਅਸਤ ਜੁਮਲਾ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਂ | The recognition of Sikhi is encapsulated in five; symbols bearing words beginning with the alphabet âKâ. Their absence renders one the necessity to seek forgiveness. The Kara, Kard, Kach, Kangha together are incumbent, yet without the Kesh, they are all in vain. Panthic scholar, late Piara Singh Padam editor of the book Rehitnamey (pages 35-36) states: ਉ੍ਨਨੀਵੀਂ ਸਦੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਵਿਚ ਕਿਸੇ ਫ਼ਾਰਸੀਦਾਨ ਨੇ ਦੋ ਸ਼ੇਅਰਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਇਹ ਨਸੀਅਤ ਕਮਲਬੰਦ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ: ਉ੍ਨਨੀਵੀਂ ਸਦੀ ਦੇ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਵਿਚ ਕਿਸੇ ਫ਼ਾਰਸੀਦਾਨ ਨੇ ਦੋ ਸ਼ੇਅਰਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਇਹ ਨਸੀਅਤ ਕਮਲਬੰਦ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ: ਨਿਸ਼ਾਨਿ ਸਿਖੀ ਈ ਪੰਜ ਹਰਫ ਕਾਫ | ਹਰਗਿਜ਼ ਨ ਬਾਸ਼ਦ ਈਂ ਪੰਜ ਮੁਆਫ਼ | ਕੜਾ ਕਾਰਦੋ ਕ੍ਨਛ ਕੰਘਾ ਬਿਦਾਂ | ਬਿਲਾ ਕੇਸ ਹੇਚ ਅਸਤ ਜੁਮਲਾ ਨਿਸ਼ਾਂ | ਭਾਈ ਜੋਧ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਨੇ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਿਰਣਯ (੧੯੩੨) ਵਿਚ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਜੀਂਦ ਪਾਸ ਪਈ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬੀੜ ਵਿਚ ਦਰਜ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਗ੍ਨਲ ਇਹ ਨਹੀਂ| ਨਾ ਇਹ ਇਸ ਬੀੜ ਵਿਚ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਨਾ ਹੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਕਿਸੇ ਹੋਰ ਪੋਥੀ ਵਿਚ| ਜੈਸਾ ਕਿ ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੁਰਗਵਾਸੀ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਪ੍ਰਾਕ੍ਰਮ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਸੰਗਰੂਰ ਵਾਲਿਆ ਦ੍ਨਸਿਆ ਸੀ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਇਕ ਕਾਗ਼ਜ਼ ਦੇ ਟੁਕੜੇ ਤੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਸ਼ੇਅਰ ਸੀ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਇਸ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਵਿਚ ਹ੍ਨਦ ਦੇ ਤੌਰ ਤੇ ਰ੍ਨਖਿਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਸੀ| ਪਿਛੋਂ ਇਹ ਕਿਧਰੇ ਡਿਗ ਪਿਆਜਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਕ੍ਨਢ ਲਿਆ| A 19th century Persian poet wrote a couplet in which writes: nishaani sikhee ee panj haraf kaaf | hargiz na baashad ee panj muaaf | karraa kaardo kachh kanghaa bidaa(n) | bilaa kes hech asath jumlaa nishaa(n) | Bhai Jodh Singh Ji writes in Gurmat Nirnay (1932) that this was included in a manuscript of the Dasam Granth whilst Maharaaj (Guru Gobind Singh Ji) was physically alive, but this is false. Neither was it written in this manuscript nor in any pothi (scripture) of Dasam Granth. As I was told by the late Giani Prakram Singh Ji from Sangrur that this writing was a couplet written on a piece of paper which was placed inside the cover of Dasam Granth. Afterwards, it either fell out or someone took it out. IN WHICH TEXTS OR REHATNAMAS IS KESKI MENTIONED? ਤੁਮ੍ਹੇ ਪਾਹੁਲ ਦੇਨੇ ਸੇ ਪਹਿਲੇ- ਹਮੇਂ ਪਾਂਚ ਕਕਾਰ ਦੀਏ ਹੈਂ- ਇਨ੍ਹੇ ਭੁਲ ਕੇ ਬਦਨ ਸੇ ਜੁਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰਨਾ । ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੇ ਤੁਸਾਂ ਕੋ ਨੀਲੀ ਰਾਂਗ ਕੀ ਕੇਸਕੀ, ਕੰਘਾ, ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨ, ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਕਾ ਕੜਾ ਤੇ ਸਫੈਦ ਰੰਗ ਕਾ ਕਛਿਹਰਾ ਦੀਆ ਹੈ । ਇਨ ਮੇਂ ਏਕ ਭੀ ਜੁਦਾ ਹੋਇ ਜਾਇ, ਗੁਰਦਵਾਰੇ ਜਾਇ ਸੰਗਤ ਮੇਂ ਬਖਸ਼ਾਨਾ, ਢਿਲ ਨਹੀਂ ਪਾਨਾ । Before giving you Amrit, I (Guru Gobind Singh Ji) gave you five Kakkaars, which you never separate from your body. First to be given you is the blue-coloured Keski, Kangha, Kirpan, pure iron Karha, and white-colour Kachhera. If any one of these gets separated (from you), then seek forgiveness for that from the Sangat in the Gurdwara, and in doing this there should be no delay. (Guru Kian Sakhiaan, authored by Swaroop Singh Kanishk (1790ce), p. 123) ਕੱਛ, ਕੜਾ, ਕਿ੍ਰਪਾਨ, ਕੰਘਾ, ਕੇਸਕੀ, ਇਹ ਪੰਜ ਕਕਾਰ ਰਹਿਤ ਧਰੇ ਸਿਖ ਸੋਇ ॥ Kachhera, Karha, Kirpan, Kangha, Keski Whoever keeps the discipline of wearing these 5Ks will be known as my Sikh. (Bhai Chaupa Singh Rehatnama) Bhai Kavi Santokh Singh Ji in his Gur Partaap Suraj Granth clearly emntions that Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself tied the Keski on Mata Bhaag Kaur Jis head. In addition to this, there are numerous Rehatnamas which instruct a Sikh must wear a turban: ਜੋ ਪਗ ਨੂੰ ਬਾਸੀ ਰਖੇ ਸੋ ਤਨਖਾਹੀਆ। ਇਸ ਲਈ ਹਰ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਲਈ ਲਾਜ਼ਮੀ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਉਹ ਰੋਜ਼ ਦਸਤਾਰ ਸਜਾਵੇ। One who does not tie a fresh turban is liable for penalty. For this reason it is mandatory for every Sikh of the Guru to tie a turban everyday. (Rehitnama Bhai Chaupa Singh) ਜੂੜਾ ਸੀਸ ਕੇ ਮੱਧ ਭਾਗ ਮੇਂ ਰਾਖੈ, ਔਰ ਪਾਗ ਬੜੀ ਬਾਂਧੇ । Tie your hair-knot on the top of your head, and tie a turban. (Bhai Desa Singh Rehatnama) ੩੫. ਦਸਤਾਰ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਰਿਹਣਾ, ਕੇਸ ਨੰਗੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਰੱਖਣੇ ॥ Do not stay without a turban, do not keep your hair uncovered. (Guru Gobind Singh Ji 52 Hukams of the Tenth Master recorded by Baba Ram Koher Ji at Hazoor Sahib) IS IT ANTI-PANTHIC TO BELIEVE KESKI AS KAKKAAR? By believing Keski (turban) is the Kakkaar, it doesnt negate Kesh or undermine the sacredness of Kesh. In fact, promoting the wearing of a Keski (turban) shows greater respect and reverence for the sacred hair and also the Dasam Duaar. If the Jatha had given the option of cutting hair and keeping Keski instead of that, then it would have violated the SGPC published Maryada but as things are, the Jatha is the strongest supporter of Kesh. Violation of cutting hair is one of the 4 Bajjar Kurehits (cardinal sins). SUMMARY Kesh or Keski Kakkaar: Whether you believe Kesh is Kakkaar or Keski, the most important thing is to keep both. Kes are very important in Sikhi and a Sikh must keep his/her hair. Keski is very important to cover Kes. Both are required for a Sikh (male and female). Both sides have rehatwaan Gursikhs such as Bhai Fauja Singh Ji and Baba Jarnail Singh Ji. We all should look at their jeevans and learn from their sacrifices. Importance of keski cannot be ignored as even those Panthic organizations which do not believe in it being a kakkaar accept it as a general requirement. There is a need to unite and not argue over the kakkaar issue, the more important thing is everyone maintaining their Kesh and covering the head with a Keski for both men men and women. We should try to live our lives while promoting Gursikhi jeevan and if we create controversies out of these important aspects of a Gursikhs life, we will only make ourselves look bad in front of Guru Sahib.

I don't have a problem with the conept of DDT, hav huge respect for the Sant Jarnail Singh, S. Kartar Singh, S. Gurbachan Singh etc, but think that a minority of today's DDT are giving the rest a bad name. I don't really care if you read mool mantar long or short, read reharas short or long, read or dont read raagmala, belive keski is kakkar or not, hey, eat meat or not, but please do not go around preaching that is the way it should be, and if anyone other jathebandi does something which doesnt fit in with DDT marayda (even if it is in line with Akal takhat) it's beadbi. You have giani takhur singh (patiala) preahing that people who only read mool mantar to gurparsad will go to hell.... WHAT? read gurbani and got hell??????? how can even BE right? And then he said General Subeg singh was shaheed in his laps, when he left golden temple complex 4 days before he even got shaheed. Giani Takhur singh claimed that he became an aatmik shaheed first... first time ive heard that your aatmaa dies?

Need to verify the source of those puraatan birs, just becasue it's old doesn;t make it a correct bir. There is already a lot of inconsistency ith our history and dhumma is just adding to it. So if they don;t sell it, it's ok? So if someone was do print one wihtou out raagmala but not sell it would tat be ok? obviously not, so stop justifying what dhumma is doing is correct. He isnt a panthic jathedar but self-proclaimed one, which half of taksal don;t even acknowledge. Is this the same dude who was sitting in Badal charan, givin him ladoo?

Did anyone get hold off, or knows where you can get the CD's/MP3's Bhai Guriqbal Singh referred to in his friday diwan and people could collect from a stall at the back? I saw it on TV, so wasn;t able to get hold of them. Thanks.

They are both different, depends what you want it for. Shabad kosh has more gurbani based words, punjabi kosh has more punjabi language in it.

True, benefits of both ways, though ebooks save space and you can read them easily on the move.