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6 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

The criticism of Ravi Singh is ridiculous.

Here is why:

If he devoted 100% of his charitable efforts to Sikh causes, Khalsa Aid would bring in only a small fraction of what it does in donations. More people are likely to donate to a charity that presents itself as serving all kinds of people all over the globe.

So basically, Ravi Singh spending X% of whatever Khalsa Aid brings in right now probably ends up being more than if Ravi Singh spent 100% of what would be a MUCH smaller pot of donations on Sikh issues.

That's one of the more ridiculous defences I have read of Khalsa Aid. KA has always stated that they get the vast majority of their donations from Sikhs. In an interview in 2017 he stated that 98% of donations are from Sikhs. They even target Sikhs by claiming that donations to them are Daswandh which these donations clearly are not. The 98% quote is below

Funding comes mainly from the Sikh community; Khalsa Aid does not receive any government funding. “About 98 percent is funded by the Sikh community from around the world. If it is a major disaster, then the gurudwaras step forward as well,” says Singh, adding that the organization has had a lot of non-Sikh supporters from UK in the past couple  of years.  

Ravi Singh: Reigniting Faith in Humanity (darpanmagazine.com)

KA's latest accounts on the charity commission website clearly prove your contention wrong. In fact one would assume that Khalsa Aid would be spending more money in India now because Ravi Singh has been defending KA's lack of help to Sikhs as part of a plan to build up KA's profile abroad and then KA would be able to work in Punjab without Indian government blocking its work. In 2020 KA spent £724,000 in India out of 1,910,000 total spent that is 38%. But last year they spent 424,000 in India out of 1,589,000 which is 26%. This does not mean that KA is spending 26% of funds on Sikhs because a lot of these funds would have been spent in states like Kerala, Uttarakhand etc. So if we estimate that half of the money spent in India is spent in Punjab then  KA spends about 15% of it's spend in 2021 on Sikhs. 

The best way to illustrate the mentality of KA is that they spend MORE money on salaries and benefits to its employees (264K in 2021) than it does on HELPING SIKHS! 

So in fact KA is cutting back on both their total spend and their spend in India. Interesting enough the funds spent in Iraq have actually gone up as a percentage of total spend in the last two years, KA spent 15% of total spend in Iraq in 2020 and this went up to 17% in 2021.  

Another disturbing aspect of KA has been that rather than spending a majority of the donations, they are hoarding it even when someone makes a donation they expect that that money will be spent soon on helping needy people. BUT the fact is that KA in the last few years have only been spending less and less percentage of the donations received. In 2020 they spent 40% and in 2021 they spent only 32%. 

Here is a report where even the Langar at the Gurdwara is being affected by the cost of living crisis in the UK. The local families have a rotation system where they organise the langar in the Gurdwara and because of the number of non-Sikhs coming for the Langar this is causing them to get into financial difficulties. This just shows how pointless the donations to KA and other such charities are. When our own people even in the west are facing financial difficulties then should this not cause us to rethink what we are doing. There is no doubt that the Langar should always take place but maybe the Gurdwaras should insist on just basic langar of daal and roti and  take off the pressure off Sikh families in the area to make Langar with costly dishes. 

You need to understand how PR works. Ravi Singh in his 23 years of running KA has become a master manipulator and master PR guy and here it shows. The interview has been arranged so that he can do his usual PR.  Firstly, we all know what the accusation against Ravi Singh are, the main one is that he spends the majority of the donations on non-Sikhs. There is no doubt there are a lot of other accusations being thrown around and what this interview does is to put those accusations to him so that he can say these are false.  He starts off with the usual defence mechanism, he is doing what he does and he could easily have made more money by doing something else, in this interview he claims he could have become a Baba but in previous videos he claims he could have become a millionaire by doing business in the UK. This is the kind of defence that one gets for people like Ravi Singh when they cannot address the issue itself. Honestly, this is the exact defence that many fraudsters use when challenged on their fraud. If someone thinks that fraud is not possible because KA is registered and overseen by the charity commission that they are deluded. Fraud can take place before the money is even accounted for. Charity commission only sees what been banked, money can easily be siphoned off before it gets banked. 

What master PR guys like Ravi Singh do is choose who and when they answer the charges put against them. It is obvious that Ravi Singh has chosen the channel and the interviewer and there is no doubt that he chosen the questions to be asked. We all know how Ravi Singh is very adept at using the blocking function on twitter whenever he get challenged on his work. 

Let's look at his answer about how he is now focussing on Punjab. On the Shaheed families, KA has only acted as a liaison for diaspora Sikhs to donate money for the Shaheed families. It has not actually given money itself. He does not make that distinction and part of the attacks on him are why he is not actually giving money to Shaheed families and only passes money on to them from diaspora Sikhs. He says he wants to set up medical clinics in Malwa and yet he wants medical organisations to contact him so that he can do so. Why is that in Punjab the sewa is always incumbent on others coming forward, does KA ever ask for other organisations to come forward when they go to Bangladesh to help Rohingyas? No, but for Punjab sewa he always lays these conditions, mainly because he can then blame the non-response from them as a get out clause for why he did not do anything for Punjab. 

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You cant deny the seva they did at the Morcha. They were setting up tents, massages etc and look at how the indian media were calling them out. They stood out whilst getting FIRs in India they being nominated UN ..this brought good light since those in the West could see how the indian media works.

 

Yes, KA did sewa at the morcha but so did other Jathebandis and the vast majority of the food and milk was supplied by the villages. I would be surprised if KA even did 1% of the sewa at the borders that the villages of Punjab and Haryana did. Even the village where the Gujjars attacked the Kisans, Inayatpura sent ration to the borders and this was the very village that KA could not even be bothered to go to even when it was clear that Amritdhari Bibis were being threatened by Gujjars. Now think why that was? It is because Ravi Singh is a leftist and like all leftists, Muslims are his favourite community. He only gives pro-Panth statements so that he can keep the money flowing in from the Panthic diaspora. 

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PR - I agree with the langar or being known for 'free food community' has its pros/cons - now think about this....there is huge with multi-millionaie biggest budgets charities for Hinduvatas in West in fact they'd been now copying the seva KA been doing in Ukraine etc..it beings us good PR as when we are seen in media its usually bad stuff ...it distinct us from Hindus/Muslims Islamic aid BAAPS etc... we all can agree how much we hate being called sector of Hindus ...Does the pr go too far yes but its brought Sikhs in good light and helped that support we need in the West. 

PR and positive image is all well and good but it is soon forgotten in the world of realpolitik. Governments don't work on emotion, if Ravi Singh think that by spending the Panth's money on non-Sikhs will somehow earn us goodwill then he will be sadly mistaken. Look at what we did for the Kashmiri women when they were threatened with sexual assault by Hindutvis all over India. Sikhs spent lakhs of rupees to get them safely home and yet when only a few months later the Kashmiri paedophile case came up, how many Kashmiri Muslims stood up for us? To be honest Ravi Singh is an emotional fo.ol and more than most in our community. 

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Alot of hindus/rss are jealous at KA pr in West and how much its grown

If making Hindus jealous of us was all we wanted to do as a Panth, then we have been doing that for centuries before KA came about and we are winning hands down but is that REALLY what our objective is as a Panth? 

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Funding - Ravi mentioned it the interview that donations don't just come from Sikhs...He said that during the flood in UK years ago KA was there and helped out, later there was one resident that donated £10k a gori on her will to go to KA. During covid-19 in India, JK Rowling donated £500k - biggest donation ever to KA. Its also registered charity so its been all accounted for and red flags would be easily called out under UK laws. Ravi also said his wife has good job in NHS he takes salary 30k i think but only last few years before he was doing go to country to country on his own holding buckets and said missed out on his kids childhood.

This another classic defence of fraudsters. How can they be fraudsters when they 'officially' worked for nothing for many years when setting up their 'fraud'. As for JK Rowling's donation, none of that money will be spent on Sikhs and that is a fact. So what difference does it make for poor Sikhs that she donated to KA? The only thing it did was to raise his profile so that he could have an even bigger claim to a Nobel prize. 

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Ravi - Is he a bad person no. His intentions are in good place for his love for the kaum yes no doubt . I don't agree with his view by cant dispute the fact he start 1999 before SM and Media he does have passion for humanity.If he started KA than he has the right to how he wants to run it or his views. He might pander to Muslims but we are a minority in West. We dont have much choice - Patel or Khan who would you choose?

The easy answer to this, why even have a choice of Patel or Khan, why not choose SINGH and KAUR every time.

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Also bare in mind to being real changes in Panjab requires laws education 6/7 fig budgets ..also how much money are the SGPC sitting on what are they doing?

That sounds like a cop out. It doesn't matter whether the money available is pennies, it should be spent on our people especially as it is been sought as DASWANDH which has always been for Sikh causes. Everyone knows the SGPC is corrupt so is that a good reason why Ravi Singh should not be held to account? 

What Ravi Singh has done in this interview is to make sure that the interviewer has chosen to put accusations to him which are outrageous and which he can easily refute. This is a bit like, say if someone is a murderer and he has murdered two people, in a similar way an interviewer could put to him. "you are accused of murdering ten people" and the murderer could quite rightly say " These are shamefaced lies, I have not murdered 10 people" which is actually quite true but it hides the fact that he did murder two people. 

Ravi Singh's defence of his pay is quite disingenuous, he present the gift aid (25%) that the government gives to a charity for every donation that they get from taxpayers as if that is some kind of grant when it is actually a refund on the tax that the taxpayer had paid when he got the money either through work or through his business. This is actually the first time I have ever come across such an excuse that a charity has offered to justify their wages. He probably expects the viewers to not understand what gift aid actually is so it looks like the government is paying his wages. 

A good video about the village in Telangana which became Sikh in the last decade. Papalpreet Singh is a Sikh activist from Punjab who has travelled over a 1000 miles to make this video about this village after he read about it first a few months ago.  The video gives more information about the villagers as well as the possibility of further parchar in the villages around this village. 

4 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

Concrete undeniable logic in your argument that nobody can disagree with particulary over the next 10 years.

Particularly in the context of the demographic projections which mean that east Punjab is on track for a Sikh minority by the 2031 census unless we:

*do parchaar to Bihari's from the birthplace of Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj + Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji

*increase the TFR towards 5 children among Sikh families via earlier age of marriage in early 20's for men

*proactively look after the welfare of poorer sections of the Sikh Panth

*ensure only one United Gurdwara per pind (and locality in the West)

*eradicate use of caste based labels and matrimonial apartheid 

*eradicate the scourge of drugs and alcohol in Punjab

*welcome sehajdhari brothers and sisters as equal stakeholders in the Sikh Panth that can contribute and strongly care about the Panth be they people like Deep Sidhu or non-Punjabi's who know Sikhi is true as an ideology but are perhaps not quite ready to adopt Amritdhari discipline in their own lives just yet

*eradicate abortion and female infantcide as a silent Genocide among those from a Sikh background in Punjab

*ensure better health and rehabilitations in Punjab and combat carcinogens and increasing organic farming

The plan of action you have outlined above has been taking place but not to the extent that it should but at least there is a start. I remember when the 2011 census results came out showing the Sikh percentage in Punjab going down since 2011, the Akal Takht Jathedar stated that Sikhs should be having at least 4 children, he was quickly shouted down not only by our liberal drones but even by Panthic organisations who one would assume should have known better. There was even a op-ed in the Tribune newspaper the writer of which wrote that Sikhs should ne proud that their population was going because they were helping the country deal with overpopulation! The fact is that now you would never get such idiocy being displayed by our people. 

Why Sikhs ought to be happy, not worried : The Tribune India

2 hours ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

Africa can comfortably accommodate 4 billion people imho. As that would be a population density of around 125 people per square km with plentiful resources. In contrast the population density for Punjab is in excess 600 per sq/km today in 2022 which is almost double the UK's population density (despite the UK having one of the highest European population densities).

The bigger issue is that two big Slavemaster religions could increase their flock by an *extra BILLION* or so *each* in Africa if the Truth of Sikhi is not exposed to more black Africans than the limited few thousand indigenous black African Sikhs that have come into Sikhi this millenium in Kenya (for which I would give United Sikhs some credit).

 

I think there is no danger of either Christianity or Islam taking an extra 1 billion people into their religions. You are discounting the progress of Atheism which is now growing across the world. In my view if the last millennium was the struggle between the Abrahamic religions against the Dharmic and pagan religions, this millennium the struggle will be between Atheism and religion in general. Atheism is affecting the Abrahamic religion more and Dharmic religions less so. Atheism is growing in the Middle East which will be a challenge to Islam just as Atheism has pretty much overtaken Christianity in the west. The interesting fact is the country, Tunisia which in the last decade sent the most foreign fighters to ISIS is also the one which has has the most people leaving religion. The other interesting fact is that these people are having to live double lives because in times like Ramadan these is not only religious but also government pressure to conform and take part in the fasting. 

1 hour ago, SinghPunjabSingh said:

I hear you and agree with you to a degree. Certainly, it would be foolhardy for us to throw funds at places like Somalia. However, the 15million orphans in sub-Saharan Africa in countries where Sikhs are not despised as non-believers heading to hell can certainly benefit from educational assistance to set up schools, access to clean water and simple eye clinics. The future population of Africa is 2.5 Billion by the year 2050 and projected to be over 4 Billion plus by the year 2100.

Punjabi's have had the truth of Sikhi before them for 500years and yet only 10% of the historical Punjab population (Pakistani Punjab, east Punjab, Haryana and Himachal) is Sikh today. However, if between 1 to 10% of gareeb Africans came to understand and relate to Sikhi as the only faith that opposes Slavery and discrimination then that could be a game changer to put Sikhi on the global map within the next 28 years.

But no doubt about it the poorer sections of the so-called 1.1billion Hindu demographic in India today (as defined by Hindutva thinkers) is the likely number one source of new (primarily sehajdhari) Sikhs for the next 20years. Only when we have tens of millions of new sehajdhari Sikhs can Amritdhari diamonds arise to create a new and revitalised (primarily non-Punjabi) Khalsa Panth arise (as we as Punjabi's have failed dismally to propagate Sikhi forward in the last 100years).

Of course before all that, we have to ensure that Muslims, Christians, Derawadi's (Hindutva proxies) and Manuwadi's (Hindutva castesists) do not jointly leave Sikhs as a minority in east Punjab by the 2031 census.

Sikhs were 5% of the Punjabi population around the year 1800 and we were a minority in all districts of Punjab in 1947 when our numbers had risen to 13% of all Punjabi's, so we are used to being a minority.

But now it is time for Ekta within the Panth and for us to drop labels and hypenated identities and ensure only one united Gurdwara per pind and locality in the West and educate outsiders as to why Sikhi is the solution to all their problems (and globally) and why they should also be part of the Sikh Panth. When Sikhs get to 100million strong that will be when we can truly do Sarbat da Bhala.

We need to be much more selective and understand that we as a small community cannot afford to spend our resources in creating small Sikh communities in say places like Sub-Saharan Africa which will take over 10 x the resources to sustain and assist when it is cheaper and more cost effective to create a community in the states bordering Punjab. We have the example of the Afghani Sikhs, who have been ethnically cleansed from Afghanistan and whose migration to the west has taken up so much effort of Sikhs in the west and that just to save a small community of around 1000 now. The same could be the case if we create small communities in anywhere close to the Islamic world. It is much more cost effective and in the long run strategically beneficial if these communities are as close as possible to Punjab where assistance to them does not entail expensive logistics.

Below is one such success story, made all the easier because his mother tongue makes it much more easier for him to understand Gurbani, he has access to local Gurdwaras which have been there for centuries, he can travel quite easily to Harmandir Sahib, he can make links with other Sikhs in his locality and be a part of the Sangat and Sikhi will grow in his family and locality. It is though him and others like him that Sikhi will truly expand beyond from our Punjabi base. 

4 minutes ago, Saba said:

Sarbhat da bhalla

It's actually Sarbat Da Bhalla. It's about wanting the best for everyone, it's not about letting your own people live in poverty while spending Dawandh which was always only for Panthic issues on others. 

Come on, it's never the non-Jats fault, they have no agency, they are just children who are never responsible for their actions and they just follow the big bad Jats. I bet Daily will say these Tarkhans are only doing Bhangra in their community centre because the Jats refused to have non-Jats do bhangra in the Jats'  community centre. 

Hindu-Muslim civil war has started folks... at least on TV. 

Hilarious TV shop, Bania Hindu woman argues with Musla about halal meat and terrorism, starts fourth battle of Panipat! The bleeped out word is TERRORISM, in that HALAL MEAT PROMOTES TERRORISM. The reaction of the Musla shows how unhinged these people are.

3 hours ago, Premi5 said:

What do you think about Sikh broadcasting channels on Sky in the UK who frequently run appeals/ask for subscriptions, either to 'keep the channel running' or for other purposes such as 'charity/donation' for people requiring medical treatment in Panjab/India? They also do appeals for Sikligars

This one appears on one of these channels regularly, and I can say from personal experience should not be trusted

https://www.worldcancercare.co.in/index-info-kulwantsinghdhaliwal.html

Unfortunately our people have a tendency to want to replicate what someone else had done. For years there was never a Punjabi radio station, then one started and a few years later there were nearly a dozen. The same happened with the satellite channel, Sikh channel started and then another channel came up and then another etc. This is pointless, what is needed is 1 Sikh channel or two channels, 1 in Punjabi and the other in English for the youth and for parchar. 

Ravi Singh started his karobar in 1999 and now we have over a dozen organisations who seem to think that we are just on this planet to transfer our wealth onto other communities. There's Langar Aid, Hemkunt Foundation, United Sikhs etc. Now on twitter you cannot read a few tweets about Sikhs without some pointless tweet from one of the organisations banging their drums about how great they are how they are helping humanity. 

2 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

Ravi Singh thinks it's more important to help a group of people with 42 countries and rich oil reserves compared to stateless Sikhs with no support from anyone in the world. 

I think we are seeing a real change in the attitude of our people. The secularisation that began a few decades ago is now on the back foot. Sikhs are willing to voice opinions today that would have seen them being shot down just a few years ago by our own people. What I find interesting is that criticisms of KA  that were discussed here over the years are now being discussed outside of this forum and in real life. Has anyone else noticed how Khalsa Aid have now started to tweet more and more about what they are doing in Punjab. This is all due to pressure from our people, I think Ravi Singh has lost his sheen now, after his silence on the Kashmiri Paedophile and then on the Gujjar Issue, he is under pressure now. He was almost considered a Sant by some but no anymore. 

Just some background. This guy and others apnay work hard in manual work such as driving trucks etc in the USA and they give a part of their KIRT KAMAI back home in Punjab to help our people there. They wanted Ravi Singh to spend money in Punjab but they have been attacked by Ravi Singh's Chelay online.  

Here is a video from USA where Baghel Singh tells Ravi Singh some home truths. Apparently he has been attacked online by Ravi Singh's chelas for suggesting Khalsa Aid spend money on Sikhs. BE WARNING THE LANGUAGE MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT RAVI SINGH WOULD HAVE HEARD BEFORE. 

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West Midlands Police- I wouldn't believe a word they say. 

16 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

I’ve seen Pal Kharod and his organisation on YouTube exposing this disgusting behaviour.

There is simple solution to ridding Punjab from this Kanjar tribe without resorting to violent agitation against them.  The Gujjars are in Punjab because they earn their living from selling Milk to Punjabi Sikh and Hindus.  Stop buying Milk from the Gujjars and they will no longer reside in Punjab.  They are nomadic people and will move on to the next sucker who buys their product.  The same goes for Bihari Bhaye, they moved back to Bihar during Covid lockdown when manual labour was restricted.

Completely boycott their services and watch them run from Punjab.

 

There is already a beginning being made. More and more villages need to pass these resolutions until the Gujjars are not able to stay in their deras in Punjab.  

Here is video that has had 215K views in the last 10 hours which shows just how much awakening has been taking place in Punjab.

58 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

what do you mean by 5? rescue mentally challenged people? Do they kidnap them?

Watch this videos. There is a Singh called Pal Kharod who has been active with a small jathebandi of Singhs who raid Gujjar Deras and recue mentally challenged people who they have abducted and forced to work for them and kept them in slavish conditions. These Gujjars have also been accused of striking people normal people on the head so that they suffer brain injuries and they can then be kept as slaves to do manual labour for them. He also raids Gaushalas as well where there are people also kept like the Gujjars keep. 

1 hour ago, SikhKosh said:

Few Jathas of Singhs have been camping in the village and feeding the cows. They've openly challenged the Gujjars and said they will kick out Gujjars even if this issue gets settled. Luckily this incident woke up some in our nation.
See the Muslims chickening and using taqiyaa to ease the tensions and safeguard their future in Punjab... And foolish Sikhs are falling for it (nearly 7k likes). Also shame on the commie farm leaders who 'regret' the killing of the 2 attacker Muslim Gujjars and are being cucks to these gujjars.

5:21... there you have the magical word coming from the 'Sikh' farmer unionist. Bhaichara.............

 

I have always said the biggest battle will not be between us and non-Sikhs, it will be between us and the comrades and dhimmis like Ravi Singh who will always try and align with our enemies against the Panth. It is interesting that Khalsa Aid kept away from this village, either they knew that when the truth comes out about what had gone on there that they also would be attacked for being a part of the problem by helping Muslims and not our people. 

These Muslay attempted to defame the Sikh kisans by alleging that their boys had been harassing the Gujjar girls but now even they have had to admit that this wasn't true, even though this was what was alleged in the FIR. They have been shown to be liars. The Gujjars in one of the other videos said that they are from Jammu and they came to Punjab because here can get pathay for their animals. These people have been evicted from the forest department's land that they had been encroaching on and now they have started to come to Punjab. The Hindus of Jammu are getting rid of their gand and that gand is now settling in Punjab. While Jammu is decreasing it's Muslim population, Punjab is increasing  its Muslim population. 

Left homeless after demolition drive, Gujjar Bakarwal community calls it selective targeting (milligazette.com)

A few months ago the Jammu Hindus also started to harass the Rohingyas that had set up refugees camps there and even burned one of these camps. Now guess where these Rohingyas are going to come to?

Fire In Jammu’s Rohingya Refugee Camp, 18 Encampments Reduced To Ashes (thecognate.com)

It is not like these Gujjar bring anything positive to Punjab. They spit in the milk. Spread their gandgi everywhere, allow their buffalos to destroy the crops of the Kisans and present a danger to our majority in Punjab. 

The leftists and Ravi Singh bhaichara types have tried their best present this as a small matter of a village clash which happens almost everyday so that the issue could be swept under the carpet and we would go back to sleep. It looks like their efforts would have worked initially especially as the mainstream media accepted the Gujjars' lies and had presented the incidents as an attack by aggressive Jats against poor Gujjars but is good to see that many Panthic jathebandias have come to the aid of the kisans and the truth has come out. 

The awakening to this danger that is happening in Punjab is something that was sorely needed. Now we have videos like this with people are openly calling for the social boycott and ousting of the Gujjars from Punjab's villages. Such a strong and adamant view would never have been espoused before this incident. 

2 hours ago, BhForce said:

Bro, what % are the Sunnis of Bahrain? The population is Shia.

Secondly, there's nothing to say that the Mullahs would have had the same power without state support.

The Punjabis who became Muslims by force could have been told you don't have to follow the Mullahs anymore. Just reverting to folk religions would have been fine.

Punjab would be a very different place if Maharaja Ranjit Singh had the same strategy as the Spanish monarchs Ferdinand and Isabella had in Spain in 1492. They expelled the Muslims from Spain and only allowed those to stay who were prepared to convert to Catholicism. When some of these converts rebelled over the next century, the Spanish expelled them as well. Estimates of the number expelled are about 3 million out of a total population of 8 million, the majority of these were native Spanish speaking Muslims and not all were descendants of the Muslims invaders from north Africa.  So nearly 40% of the population expelled and what was the result, the Spanish golden age in which Spain managed to build up an empire across the oceans and create 'New Spains' all over the world. Can you imagine what Spain would have been like if they had kept all the Muslims in their country?  Just look at Bosnia and Kosovo. 

32 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

 

Nope infact i think the best thing that happened was Muslims staying in India because hindus would have backstabbed us anyways whether muslims stayed or not but now with 230+ million muslims and the religious rift increasing day by day in India there can be a perfect opportunity for sikhs to gain something from all this when chaos breaks out if only apne use their brain. Look if Muslims weren't there in India i think these Hindus would have done much worse stuff to us. Right now there are sikhs and muslims in the way of making their hindu rasthra. And i dont think they will succeed in doing so without some civil unrest breaking out. Muslims are being hated right now like sikhs were around 1984.

I don't agree. Let's just say that all the Muslims from northern India had been evicted then the results would have been-;

1. The amount of Muslim owned land left in India would have been greater than the land left behind by Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan. Muslim land in UP and Rajasthan could have been given to Sikhs and Hindus and there would have been no need for Sikhs and Hindus to be allotted less land that the amount they left behind in Pakistan. So, there would have been no crisis in agriculture with landholdings being divided and becoming uneconomic or at least this would have been delayed by a few decades as the land with each farming family would have been more than what it was in reality. 

2. Kashmir could have been cleared of Muslims just as Jammu was. The Sikhs and Hindus of the areas around Rawalpindi/Kahuta/Murree who have many cultural similarities with Kashmiri Pandits and Sikhs could have been settled in the Kashmir valley to replace the Muslims kicked out of there. 

3. The extra 25-30 Million Muslims which Pakistan would have had to resettle and rehabilitate in 1947 would have caused them to have an economic crisis which would have caused their economy to stagnate and they would not have reached the economic level that they have now and would have been far behind India. Also because of their having such a large population from the start they would have had to out of necessity institute some kind of population control measures otherwise the Pakistan of today instead of having a population of 220 million would have a population of 375 million which the country can never support. 

4. The power we had in united Punjab and in British India was due to our having been the largest landholders in Punjab. This would have been transferred to an India devoid of most Muslims. Having such landholdings would have ensured that we kept our population increasing at a good level as well. Also our diaspora and migration would have been much lower as there would have been no need for Sikhs to migrate abroad if their landholdings were sufficient to feed many generations of their families. The only migration would perhaps have been more from urban or professional Sikhs. 

1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:

so tmr one by one they will take all our land in this way.

Up until the 1990s we were outstripping the Hindu growth rate and hence we could have taken Chandigarh and it would have made little difference to our population percentage in Punjab. But now it is pointless, all we will be doing is decreasing our population percentage and adding a Hindi speaking city to Punjab. It is better if Punjab forget about Chandigarh for now, concentrates on Punjabi speaking areas of Haryana and Rajasthan or we as Sikhs just concentrate on parchar in Punjab and the surrounding states and build up our numbers by both conversions as well as making 4 children the norm in our community. If the AAP government lives up to the hype and creates jobs in Punjab then maybe the outward migration trend could also go down which would be a positive for us.

Chandigarh is not going anywhere, it will always be there and if we can build up our numbers and start to increase by a higher percentage than others then Chandigarh will automatically fall in our lap especially  if we manage to make Sikhs a majority in the northern Haryana districts surrounding Chandigarh. 

7 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

Muslims and hindus are taking over Panjab .Whilst mass immigration from Sikhs  Panjab to West. They giving Chandigarh to Dehli...we lost kaum..cant blame others its over own biggest rats ..really nothing we can do either...i hope those nationalist Sikhs get the biggest humiliation from them..keep fighting for them whilst they wish you genocide and take over lol 

@proudkaur21

Chandigarh was lost as soon as our demographics went into decline. Even if Modi gave it to us tomorrow all we would be doing is decreasing our population percentage and adding another large urban centre dominated by Hindus into Punjab. 

15 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

Who got the boycott removed?

There were lots of videos about Gujjars suffering and the Captain to please his musli girlfriend got the police to remove it. The boycott was easily stopped because there was no real force behind it apart from rumours that the Gujjars were spreading covid. The amount of anger all over Punjab added to the willingness of Hindu organisations to join the boycott should ensure it's success.