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sher-e-panjab

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  1. Traitors were those like Longowal & Tohra who negotiated with the Govt, Bhai Harminder Singh Sandhu languished in Jodhpur jail, his wife was shaheed in Operation Bluestar (wouldn't a Govt agent and a traitor secure the safety of his wife too?)The Akali leaders had Bhai Harminder Singh Sandhu killed after his release becuase they feared him as a rival leader. The Rupinder Singh Rupi pictured was killed in a police encounter in Jagraon, perhaps you're confusing him with a different Rupi.
  2. Harminder Singh Sandhu was NOT a Govt Agent! Infact was one of the most intellectual people in the movement.
  3. Noticed a couple of errors: Gurdeep Singh Deepa's Shaheedi date is written as 20th Oct, but on the calendar is pictured on 12th December. Shaheedi Bhai Nirmal Singh Nimma 18 Oct If I'm not mistaken the Singh who is pictured is actually still alive...
  4. Theres nothing wrong with proper Panjabi culture, only todays 'culture' is an entirely different thing, which of the 2 are you reffering to? Your confusing me, which of todays musicians are you reffering to in association with Punjabi Lok Geet??? Becuase as far as Im aware there aren't any in the mainstream.
  5. Bhai Sher Singh Shera Bhai Sukhdev Singh Sakheera Bhai Gurdev Singh Debu Bhai Balbeer Singh Sakheera Bhai Hardev Singh Bapu Bhai Gurdeep Singh Deepa I've never seen an image of Gurjant Singh Rajhastani, so doubt you will get one online Manbir Singh Chaheru Born - 1959 Shaheedi : December 1987 (exact date not known, was killed in fake encounter)
  6. Very sad to hear the passing of Bhai Harjinder Singh Jinda's father. May he rest in peace. You can watch Bhai Sahib's father in this video: http://www.sikhsiyasat.com/dload/BDS_with_...singh_jinda.wmv
  7. Why does it hurt you so much that a piece of cloth is being burnt, Sikh men and women were burnt in Delhi doesnt this fact cause hurt to you? The shaheeds looking down as you state, If Kartar Singh Sarabha & Bhagat Singh were looking down on Hindustan they would be thinking why the hell did we give up our lives for this homo country. "s133k_s1kh" you mentioned the national anthem and desh bhagti songs sung in Hindustan, one of them is "Sarray Jaha Say Acha...." well the very same person who had written that later on stated "Sharam Aati Hai Abb Isko Apna Wattan Kehtay Hoye (I feel ashamed accepting this country as my own)"
  8. Who cares what the thread is titled as, the point is Sikhs were massacred in Delhi and dogs were feeding on the corpses, for the sake of argument I could say why didnt anyone move the body hence it was deliberately left there for the dog to feed on, but lets not go that way. Supporter of humanity and Hindustan supporter should not be used in the same sentence. I didnt say that no-one in Punjab knows, your twisting what I said to support you weak argument. As for if your included in the "our people will never forget what happened in 84", only you know the answer to that, can you forget what happened in 84 and forgive those responsible?
  9. No its not propaganda. The purpose of it was to serve as a reminder, maybe you being a Hindustan supporter dont like the fact that our people will never forget what happened in November '84 in Delhi nor forgive those responsbile. Ive already answered your other question.
  10. I'm not going off-topic im just expanding on whatever new argument you keep bringing up. Your original post was: You call it propoganda yet your signature states: "Until LIONS tell their own history, history will always glorify the hunters." Don't you think the original poster was doing exactly what youre signature says?
  11. Punjab is in a bad shape? Do you really think it can get any worse? Punjab is the land where the Gurus once roamed and today its a sh!thole, punjab today is the leader in female infanticide, its full of amlis where more than half of the youth are hooked on drugs, need I continue? Quicker we all accept this the quicker things can be done to improve things, if people dont think theres a problem then as far as theyre concerned theres nothing to fix is there?
  12. Well Canada as your given example doesnt have 20million Sikhs does it?
  13. Its a general, yet valid assumption based on my experiences with Sikhs from India. What makes me think Sikhs in foreign countries know more? Well the fact that rememberance rallies are held every year with big turnouts is one thing. The problems maybe interlinked as you say, however the reference to the state of Sikhi within Hindustan came from you and not me, so am I right in saying that you do believe there are problems?
  14. My reference was about the knowledge people in Hindustan possess about the atrocitites carried out upon Sikhs by the Indian Govt. I didnt mention the state of Sikhi there, however if you felt the need to coment on that then you must also agree things aint looking good.
  15. Sikhs in Hindustan are becoming a lost cause, its ironic how more of the Sikhs living in foriegn countries know about the atrocitites yet those living where it happened dont seem to want to know.
  16. First you have to gather the facts. Beant singh's children got their proper full education in a very good Sikh school in chandigarh area and even they were provided body guards. It's now their time to stand on their own feets. Shaheed beant singh's wife went into politics and made lot of money (not confirmed) as MLA but sadly she died by home washing machine incident (electric shock). I read similar message/topic on other forums couple of years ago and now i can confirm that it seems to be a hoax by someone who is claiming to be shaeed beant singh's son emailing webmasters to help him. Don't fall for that.. Even if its true, i think sangat helped all they could but it's sikh duty to stand on their own after getting proper education etc.. Full respect to bhai beant singh shaheed... No, you have got it wrong, Bhai Beant Singh's children were kicked out of their schools and SGPC totally neglected them, this has been confirmed by people who were close to the family. I dont see why do you claim Bibi Bimal Kaur Khalsa made a lot of money when she went into politics then add your 'not confirmed' comment to it. As you talk about stating facts shouldnt you find out before making accusations? As for the reason for her death, you couldn't be further from the truth. How can they stand on their own feet when the ground from underneath them has been taken away? Bhai Kehar Singhs son finds it difficult to find employment becuase his father did the great deed of planning Indiras assassination. The 'help' you say sangat has given Bhai Kehars Singh's son is evident when in an interview he stated "the Sikh community doesnt care about us" This is not only the story of Bhai Beant Singh, Bhai Satwant Singh & Bhai Kehar Singhs families, its the story of majority of the families whose sons, husbands and brothers gave their lifes for the Sikh Panth, and this is how we have repaid them thus far.
  17. Actually this song was sung in the times of the Jujharoos, just disguised a bit, however the message was clear that it was reffering to the times were sikh kids were being killed in fake encounters. Jathebandis rewarded Hans Raj Hans with jeeps and money for singing this song.
  18. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YEbvwsuMSqs This versions better...
  19. Dont forget Deepas mother, she was a kharkoo in her own right too, she passed away few months back and this went unreported without any mention anywhere. Deepa worked with some top Singhs in the days like Gen Labh Singh, and became a high ranking member under Panjwar faction of KCF. Deepa is also widely speculated as the man who killed chamkila. Its also said that Kulbeera was involved with Deepa when punished SHO Mann Singh in jalandhar. After Deepas Shaheedi, in a feeble attempt to defame Deepa the police planted fake 'love letters' and a diary of girls names and numbers on him, however the locals didnt for one minute doubt the purity of the Singh and his intentions and the plan of the police failed miserably. Even today, in the Doaba region of Punjab, Deepa is known as a folk-hero and whenever Singhs of the sangarsh are mentioned Deepas name always arises. Heres a few pics of Deepa...
  20. "Baba Nihal Singh Harianwalan was beaten and forced to run in Yuba city Nagar Kirtan by the Akali dal Mann group despite of the heavy security. Baba was not even allowed to deliver the speech. Last month baba Nihal used force aganist Mr. mann in Darbar Sahib complex and he and his supporters even draged swords aganist Mr. mann on the day. In Yuba City Mr. Mann's supporters asked the baba while he was running to drag his sword now. In this Nagar Kirtan more than 60000 Sikhs took part."
  21. Watch Debate Video Here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=17042058814450061
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