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I personally believe that you should have full sadkaar for Senchi Sahibs not short of the sadkaar for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s saroop. We have made one of our rooms into a Sachkhand in which we do the sewa of the Senchi Sahibs. There is a bed, a palki sahib, a Chandani Sahib, Chaur Sahib etc. At the end of the day I don’t think there is a specific protocol for Senchi Sahibs and everyone will do the sewa as they fill fit. I personally would not feel right if I kept Senchi Sahibs the same way I would keep Gutka Sahibs. That’s just my personal take on it.

My workshops are in punjab, delhi and mumbai. And we do not employ children, in fact children can do this kind of work which is irrelevant as child labour is unethical and anti gurmat. As you are selling something so niche and focused at the sharda of sikhs, you may want to have full transparency on your ethical procedure. Particularly as the indian fine cloth industry is known for it's use of child labour.

It is more than likely that the taurine in the pharmaceutical or food industry is chemically synthesized and perhaps not directly from an animal. However, I do agree that Gursikhs are better off avoiding processed foods and drinks.

Great comments from Bhai Sahib's father! http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/27/sukhwinder-singh-death-father-tribute Father pays tribute to son stabbed to death by thieves in east London• Sukhwinder Singh 'a good son, husband and father' The father of a man stabbed to death after tackling two muggers in east London paid tribute to his "good and brave boy" today as his son's body was flown back to India for a family funeral. Sukhwinder Singh, 31, a builder who had worked in Britain for 10 years, was killed after chasing two men who had snatched a woman's shoulder bag near a busy train station. "He has left a huge hole," said his father, Pakhar Singh, who made the 5,000-mile journey from the family farm in rural Punjab to Barking in east London at the weekend. "He was a brave man, a good son, a good husband and a good father." Sukhwinder had been planning to travel to the Punjab in June to meet his 10-year-old son, Gurinder, for the first time. "He left India before his son was born and had not been back. They were both very excited about this meeting," said Sukhwinder's cousin, Harwinder. "Since this happened his son has been asking 'Where is Dad, where is Dad?'. Sukhwinder used to phone him twice a day." Sukhwinder died after chasing two men who attacked a woman who was making her way home on 8 January. He caught one of the attackers near Barking station and officers think he was stabbed by one as he tried to restrain the other. He died at the Royal London hospital. Sitting in the small front room of the first-floor flat Sukhwinder shared with his cousin, uncle and aunt, his father wept as he spoke about his son's death. "I am not surprised he went to help a stranger," said Pakhar. "That is the person he was, kind and brave, and it is a Sikh tradition to help anyone who needs it." Sukhwinder sent money home each month to support his wife, son and parents at the family home. "He was not a confrontational sort of person so we were not worried he would get into any trouble," said Pakhar. "He was hard working and we were pleased he was getting on with his life." Sukhwinder came from a farming family and grew up in a rural village in the Ludhiana area of Punjab. "He wanted to give his family a better life and he worked very hard here," said Harwinder. The pair grew up in neighbouring villages and Sukhwinder had followed in his father's footsteps, becoming a farmer. When he turned 20 he began to consider moving overseas to give a better life for his family. For the past six years Sukhwinder shared a three-bedroom flat with Harwinder and his uncle and aunt in Barking. "It was tough for him because he was here without his family," said Harwinder. "He missed them terribly. He spoke to them every day on his mobile phone." Harwinder was one of the first on the scene after the stabbing, and found his cousin unconscious in the snow. A Sikh, Sukhwinder spent most of his spare time at the Sri Guru Singh Sabha temple near his flat. Sitting in the temple's office, Nirmal Singh Gill, a local councillor, said: "After he had been at work he used to come here and help us without being asked – he was a lovely young man."

Where's the labour work carried out and does it involve children? Thanks

Caterer ordered to pay £415,000 to man killed by egg allergy at Sikh wedding http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7037520/Caterer-ordered-to-pay-415000-to-man-killed-by-egg-allergy-at-Sikh-wedding.html A caterer who supplied a dessert containing eggs at a Sikh wedding must pay £415,000 damages to the widow of a man who died from an allergic reaction, the Court of Appeal has ruled. Published: 11:55AM GMT 20 Jan 2010 Kuldip Singh Bhamra knew of his allergy but believed he was safe because the wedding banquet was held in a Sikh temple and observers of the religion do not eat eggs. The caterer, Prem Dubb, himself a Sikh, appealed against a decision at Oxford County Court in November 2008 when the damages were awarded after a finding of negligence. But three appeal judges upheld the ruling and ordered the damages to be paid, plus £36,000 interest. Lawyers for Mr Bhamra's widow, Amarjit, argued that Lucky Caterers were negligent for supplying a dish called ras malai which allegedly contained the egg. Mr Bhamra, a research chemist, and his wife had travelled from Birmingham to the Ramgarhia Temple in Forest Gate, London, in August 2003, for the wedding attended by more than 500 guests. Lord Justice Moore-Bick, giving the ruling of the appeal court, said that there was evidence that the number of guests exceeded expectations and Mr Dubb had sent out for further supplies. The caterer had denied this but the county court judge had rejected that part of his evidence and found that he had bought in ras malai from an outside source and it contained egg. Lord Justice Moore-Bick said it had not been found that caterers are under any obligation to give warnings that dishes may or do contain eggs. There was evidence that egg allergy affects just 0.1 per cent of the adult population. But in this case Mr Bhamra would not have expected there to be any egg in ras malai served at a Sikh wedding and would therefore have felt quite safe in eating it. The appeal judges said they ''feel justified in drawing the inference'' that Mr Dubb was aware at the time of the wedding that some recipes for ras malai included eggs and if the dessert came from an outside source it might do so. Satinder Hunjan QC, representing the widow, had told the judges at a hearing in October last year that eggs were ''strictly forbidden'' at the temple. ''The deceased would be entitled in the circumstances to expect that there would not be any egg or egg product in the food which was being served at the temple.'' Mr Bhamra was aware of his allergy but did not have his adrenalin pens on the day of the wedding in August 2003. He fell into a coma and died three days later in hospital aged 49.

Vigil held for have-a-go-hero in Barking http://www.bdpost.co.uk/content/barkinganddagenham/post/news/story.aspx?brand=BDPOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsbdp&itemid=WeED19%20Jan%202010%2015%3A28%3A36%3A023 Looks like alot of sangat attended. Anyone got any more pictures to share?

I agree. In my view he is a Shaheed, he sacrificed his life for someone else's well-being. Perhaps we should be confident to name him Shaheed Bhai Sukhwinder Singh.

On the Sikh Channel programme yesterday from Barking Gurdwara, they interviewed the Head Granthi who was saying that Bhai Sahib was stabbed twice in the back and one in the heart!! As per the ITN news this morning 3 local youths have been arrested and the Met Police now believe more than 2 youths were involved in the stabbing of Bhai Sukhwinder Singh.

Can't wait!!

I agree, the more we can move away from this victim mentality the stronger we will become. Once upon a time Sikhs celebrated the death of the brave Soorma, today we have become accustomed to a bit of a victim mentality. I suppose today we see very little gallant behaviour in Sikhs so when it does happens, it is almost alien to us. What needs to be done now is as a community we need to show full support for our brave Veer's family.

URGENT. I have just been approached by a colleague at work who wants to send some money to Bhai Sukhwinder Singh’s family in India. It’s not a big amount, as I am Sikh she has asked if I could find out for her. Is there a fund being collected? Does anyone have Bhai Sahib’s cousin’s or uncles’s mobile number? Many thanks in advance.

No offence, but these Gurmukhs shown above were progressive Gursikhs with Kamia, they were Mahapurshs'. In my view what we have to today are self-appointed, self-promoting, non-deserving, wannabe leaders in each corner. Today, just to see the sub-splits within splits of both DDT and AKJ show that these groups are only surviving off the bhagti of their predecessors’. When we desreve ekta we are blessed with ekta when we deserve disunity then we will suffer disunity.

Satbachan!

It annoys me on the whole bad attitude towards our Singhniya who are proud enough to wear dastaars. The comments of this Principle mirrors the Punjabi attitude towards the Sabat Soorat for our Bibya, I have myself witnessed these kind of comments towards our Singhnya from all sorts in the Gurdwaras, the worst being a supposed Granthi. These supposed “Sikh” schools in my opinion are a waste of time if they have no respect for Sabat Soorat. Sadly, we will find many of these “Sikh” schools are about statistics and donations rather that Sikhi.

Admin Note: That was totally uncalled for. Makes it sound like you condone stuff like that. Just because someone claiming to be from AKJ has insulted some Sant Mahapurakh who you hold in high esteem doesn't give you (not exactly you, but just anyone in general) ANY right to insult Bhai Sahib or the AKJ. Definitely NOT on Sikhsangat. Is that clear?

Many Mahapurakhs attached to the older Samparaday do Jal Parava of their bodies. When they leave their bodies their bodies are placed in the river by Gurdwara Bhagur Sahib, which is about 45 mins From Takht Sri keshgarh sahib Anandpur Sahib towards nangal Dam. The idea is that their flesh is to be of use to the fish and organisms that live in the water as food rather than be cremated and be of no use. Baba Karam Singh hoti mardan wale, Baba Jawala Singh harkhowaley, Baba Attar Singh reru sahib wale, Baba Isher Singh rara sahib wala and Baba Kishan singh rara sahib wala are some of the well known mahapursh’s of the 20th Century whose bodies went through Jal Parva as described above. I think this is a good example that organ donation exists in Sikhi ithaas.

Any more Sri Dasam Granth Akhand Paaths planned? I take it the Hazur Sahib Singhs are travelling the UK at the moment, anyone know their programme?

Looks like a predictable documentary where the typical focus is on the jhatka and the cannabis. I am sure that Nihangs Singhs do much more than just that.

True, I haven't my friend. But then I have only got self-proclaimed mahan vidwans like you with your kind of mahan arrogance to measure myself against.

Good idea. But I guarantee people won't and will still hide behind user ids on their PC using Sikhsangat.com to constantly communicate dissatisfaction and fault finding. When I read postings on sikhsangat.com, I sometimes think that the new breed Sikhs in the west were only born to complain on the internet.This is a prime opportunity to have an audience the Singhs from Sachkhand Hazoor Sahib, use it as arena to iron out all those issues and the shanka (doubts) that exists in our minds about Sri Dasam Granth Parkash and Hazoor Sahib maryada.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8416739.stm Mr Sirsawala has managed to get himself on the BBC!

Notice how they have been strategically seated in the same section for maximum photo impact.

It's time the Met Police re-opened this cold case. Does anyone know the family?

Jo Bholay So Nihaal Sat Sri Akaal.. Well Done!!