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  1. Thank you cyber sangat!

    Everyone’s responses are greatly appreciated. I feel more at ease after having re assurance from everyone. We will be renting a car as well to see more than just the theme parks.

    Searching for answers online wasn’t helping, it was just making me more paranoid.

    I will definitely be walking proud with the Guru’s Crown!

    I have been many times. Each time we stayed at different hotels off resort. Rented a car and went everywhere in surrounding areas. People are VERY nice there compared to other biased areas.

  2. Vaheguru ji ka khalsa, Vaheguru ji ki fateh!

    Does anyone have a link to a master lists of historical sikhi sites in Europe countries?

    I am looking for all the sites where Guru Nanak Dev Jee has been to and they either made a structure, gurudwara or monument in that memory.

    I would need exact cities/addresses etx, thanks :)

  3. Okay....

    After reading everyones thoughts on this, I got one question.....

    For those that say it is okay to consume (even for those Akali singhs that live only that particular lifestyle)...

    Explain this gurbani tuk from guru granth sahib ji...

    kbIr BWg mwCulI surw pwin jo jo pRwnI KWih ]

    qIrQ brq nym kIey qy sBY rswqil jWih ]233] Kabeer, those mortals who consume marijuana, fish and wine

    - no matter what pilgrimages, fasts and rituals they follow, they will all go to hell. ||233||

    How can you justify ANYTHING, after reading this? If your guru is same as all sikhs, then you should not be consuming, OR saying it is okay for "SOME" singhs of particular background/caste/jatha to consume.... end of!

  4. 2nd annual Toronto Singhs Camp 2012

    Thursday, May 31st - Sunday, June 3rd

    Circle Square Ranch (Brantford)

    Come experience a weekend full of spiritual Workshops, Kirtans, Sports, Gurbani Vichaar, Rock Climbing, Horseback Riding, Archery and lots more!

    Registration opens April 1st.

    Limited spots available.

    Ages 14+

    April registration $110 (Early Discount Period)

    May registration $150

    For more information visit

    Toronto.SinghsCamp.com

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  5. Vaheguruu ji ka khalsa, Vaheguruu ji ki fateh

    Are there any programs happening in east london area between 25th til about 3rd of january?

    Smaagams/kirtan programs at gurughars, even sangats house kirtan programs...

    All program information would be wonderful!

    (preferrably the 'sangat style' ie. AKJ, youth, etx.)

    Or inbox me any numbers/contact information I can get in touch with.

    Thanks in advance :D

  6. Sikhroots,

    I am from Canada, so wouldnt know if UK committees work the same way. Usually here they are lenient in terms of leaving it upto us what we do with the maya that is in front of kirtanees. Some gurughars here are picky and complain that their raagis are missing out on their 'income', but mostly they are okay with us promoting something for a cause since they will look good in the eyes of the sangat! When we approach them correctly, they are okay and most times we just do our own thing, and have rarely had any problems.

  7. Vaheguruu ji ka khalsa, Vaheguruu ji ki fateh

    Currently in kirtans/smaagams, the occasional chraavaa in front of kirtanees usually goes directly in the golak. Instead, why dont we setup a system so that the chraavaa can be used towards charity/cause...?

    I.e. using a vaja cover in front of kirtanees, put a sign up saying the maya will go towards Canadian Cancer society.

    Im not saying that putting in the golak is wrong, but this is an idea that can be used for other charitable causes that are in need of donations at the moment. Even for family victims of 1984 that are still going through hardship in India!

    Majority of the sangat that comes are not jatha afiliated, and tek their $2-5 worth regardless, why dont we use this concept and do something for a good cause!

    Every little bit helps :)

    Thoughts?

  8. We need to come out with something BLOCKBUSTER type material for huge impact, not a B rated film that goes straight to video and hits some of our 'own' sikh film festivals.

    Hollywood producers want to make movies that get them $$$. We need our rich people, sikh businessmen with money that can approach them with an idea to produce a film that they will agree will have a big impact all over. We need to make QUALITY films NOT quantitative! A hollywood blockbuster that will be playing all over the world and it will hit the heart of India... just imagine!

    Is there any way for sikh organizations to get in contact with these hollywood actors (tom hanks etx..) and get them to opt out of these roles???! Just imagine if this film hits oscars............ we need to do something!

  9. I just read this from akj.org about this...

    http://www.akj.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5293

    Approximately a month back, at kirtan of Bhai Manpreet Singh kanpuri, some one offered a book to Bhai Manpreet Singh ji Kanpuri on Jaap Sahib, when Veerji asked about content of that book, the person responded that it is about Jaap Sahib as "NOT A BAANI" and “ASHLEEL KAVITA”. At this, Manpreet Singh immediately responded aggressively and torn off the book and said that do not create a controversy, this Baani is a part of Nitnem & Amrit Sanchar and Khalsa and including my birth, whole Khalsa Panth’s birth took place out of this AMRIT SANCHAR and hence you don't have any right to publish and distribute such material which question AMRIT SANCHAR VIDHI and Baanis which are part and parcel of AMRIT SANCHAR. The book provider also had support of some other people and they tried to corner Veerji and also threatened him with life and responded like you come to Faridabad and we will see you.

    A day after Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) held a meeting where in they all supported Veerji and his stand (Basically PANTH’s stand)

    Veerji dared those people as he already had a kirtan booking in coming days at Faridabad and here comes the real pain.

    Tension was brewing even before Kirtan. Rival faction persons who in 15-20 numbers were sitting close to stage. Manpreet Singh Veerji came to his elements and gave a PARMANN (Tuk) of Dasam Granth as below:

    Admin please convert following into Gurmukhi language, i was unable to do the same:

    as kripaan khanddo kharrag thupak thabar ar theer |

    sY& srohI sYQI XhY hmwrY pIr ]3]

    saif sarohee saithee yehai hamaarai peer |3|

    qIr quhI sYQI quhI quhI qbr qrvwr ]

    theer thuhee saithee thuhee thuhee thabar tharavaar |

    nwm iqhwro jo jpY BXy isMD Bv pwr ]4]

    naam thihaaro jo japai bhayae sindh bhav paar |4|

    kwl quhI kwlI quhI quhI qyg Ar qIr ]

    kaal thuhee kaalee thuhee thuhee thaeg ar theer |

    quhI inswnI jIq kI Awj quhI jg bIr ]5]

    thuhee nisaanee jeeth kee aaj thuhee jag beer |5|

    (In Amrit Kirtan – Refer Section of Bir Rass – Ist Shabad - Dohra) (I don’t think any problem with this Shabad)

    Rival Group responded immediately and started shouting of stopping the kirtan in the hazoori of Shri Guru Granth Sahib. Veerji continued with Simran and didn’t pay heed to them though his kirtan speakers were made off. Now whole rival group and veerji supporting sikh sangat was standing and shouting at each other in presence of Shri Guru Granth Sahib. Organisers tried to contain the tension but when nobody was respecting Guru Sahib’s presence, who will listen to organizers. Kirtan simran was still going , rest all was happening except sword and punches.

    (Imagine the plight of a non sikh person or a sikh person, someone who even don’t know about Dasam granth, leave aside its controversy, came to have peace via Kirtan)

    Now seeing circumstance going out of control, Manpreet Singh Veerji stopped simran and said following things (not his exact words, presenting here the crux)

    -if you people don’t want me to read Jaap Sahib Baani, I will not do kirtan here, same he said for Choupayee and Swayeeae, these Baanis are the one which I got from seniors, see Hazoori Ragi Bhai Nirmal Singh, Bhai Harjinder Singh Srinagar Wale, go, catch them, why you are behind me, when celebrations were made at Takhat Shri Hazoor Sahib, Dasam Granth Baani were widely read, where were you people then, why didn’t you stood out there and be counted. You have some objection, go to Akal Takhat Sahib and have your say. When Panth will take decision on your say, it will be binding on me along with whole panth. But until panth will not take decision on your say, I will recite Jaap Sahib, Choupayee and Swayeeae and other Baani’s which have been sung in the past by Gurmukhs and are established as our part and parcel of literature and history-

    After listening to Manpreet Singh Veerji on Dasam Granth Baani, Sikh Sangat and organizers decided to support Manpreet Veerji and started rooting out those rival group who were responsible for whole problem.

    (Manpreet Singh Veerji didn’t quoted above Akal Takhat Hukamnama, probably he was not aware)

    Next day, Manpreet Singh Veerji met Jathedar Shri Akal Takhat Sahib and briefed him on whole happening. Jathedar Bhai Sahib responded positively and promised to be there on upcoming 28 Nov kirtan of Manpreet Singh Veerji at Faridabad.

    DSGMC also promised to be in full support of Manpreet Singh Veerji (I should say that everybody has committed to be in full support of Akal Takhat Hukamnama and Banni’s which are part and parcel of Nitnem and Amrit Sanchar)

    That Rival group has now not stopped here, they had tried to extend this controversy by putting a video clip on youtube which is not providing any clear cut picture on whole controversy created by them. Instead they tried to use the video for his use. It shows only Kirtan stopped, everybody shouting and etc etc, it didn’t show what Manpreet Singh Veerji said. Had they shown the same, everything would have become clear. Kindly note that adding comment to that video has been disabled so that sikh sangat will watch the video with heading in mind “Manpreet Singh Kanpuri distorting Rehat Maryada.” Please do not watch this video with preconditioned mind.

    Now, sikh sangat and organizers of Faridabad committee had decided to clear the air on this issue. A video showing all circumstances and probably a one to one personal speech by Manpreet Singh will be uploaded on all possible multimedia channels so that controversy can be put down to minimum level if not possible to kill. Dass will provide the link of that video soon as the same will be available.

  10. Khalistan Zindabad ji,

    Ill repeat myself in bold.

    It is NOT proved that gurpreet singh said anything against baba takhur singh at the ACTUAL EVENT (ie.one panth). This video you see is uploaded and done after that particular event.

    As far as I know, he did do a performance on stage but his 'kavishri' said nothing offensive!

    Anyone who is relating this event ONEPANTH as 'anti-sikhi' CLEARLY did not attend the event OR getting false second hand news!

  11. Couple of things to be noted...

    - first issue with the mock of baba ranjit singh presentation was done by KIDS. You dun simply stop them from their performance, imagine their state of mind in front of THOUSANDS if we all got up to stop them. Yes they were wrong, and they should have been talked to afterwards and from feedback im sure they were.

    One of the MAIN organizers of this event told me that all presenters were required to submit in their script and what they are presenting. Indians being indians, these scripts were changed last min and they didnt bother giving it into the organizers. The dancing/mocking was not on the original script.

    Again, take it for what its worth...

    - Second, gurpreet singhs kavishri. I have very LITTLE understanding when it comes to kavishri like this. I remember when he came on a video was playing on the side and it didnt look like it was his turn yet but he was on stage and started speaking while the video was playing and the audio/video crew had to turn off the video and he began his thing.

    Ajinder Singh has mentioned that they all left before he started his speech.

    The youtube video clearly shows that he did say something against baba takhur singh (this video was posted up on youtube AFTER the onepanth event, yes?) Can someone confirm if he in fact said anything against baba ji at onepanth?

  12. Inder Singh,

    Read the top of my post.

    I have clearly said these individuals are not linked with any of these organizations.

    They are sevadaars from different backgrounds and all came down under one banner of ONEPANTH.

    I personally contacted them before this event and asked if such anti-panth organizations were involved in the planning of the event and the answer was no. Take it for what its worth ...

  13. Veerai, a humble request...

    Please get your facts straight before posting... I know we all have our views and judgments about certain groups but we should never jump to conclusions.

    I dont think you are from toronto, so before posting information from a second hand source and especially putting down a event like this and associating them with such groups is not right.

    This event was very well organized by a variety of individuals that are NOT linked with these organizations that you have listed. They have done seva every year in toronto in other programs such as annual 1984 vigils. I know many of them personally...

    Forgive my backlash but please see comments below.

    Recently there was a onepath event organised at the Chandni Convention Centre in Brampton Nov. 15, 2009. by supporters of kala afghana and the rest of singhsabhacanada.com

    Not true!

    They had no link in organizing this event.

    In the event they made videos cussing baba ranjeet singh, baba thakur singh jee -kaveeshari cussing baba jee and did bhangra, the toronto star picked up about this event and said they were celebrating the massacre of sikhs in 1984

    This is true.

    I personally did not like the way this part of the presentation was conducted. And how out of everything great from the event, they chose the kids dancing picture to be put up in the public newspaper.

    (The organizers should have had a say in this since it was a event of rememberence NOT a jam!)

    This was ONE presentation. There were 20+ others. I found all put a couple presentations very useful. The act of the kids 'cussing out' baba ranjeet singh was not right...

    Also my punjabi is not that great so I didnt understand gurpreet singhs kaveeshri that well so I can not comment on that if he said something about baba jee.

    This event took place in toronto and was run by sikh lehar and anti dasam anti sant organizers and it was an event for oct 1984 but was used as a stage to bad mouth baba ji and dhadrian vala and promote their anti dasam views. They also did bhangra at this event with kids wearing cholay and it was put in the main english newspaper here in toronto. They showed santji pic only once the whole event and even then it was parrallel to pagat singh.

    Again, untrue!

  14. london jee why are you so scared?

    Jaw mange takhur se, sio sio devvhe

    YOU CAN ASK FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT, DHAN DHAN MAHARAAJ WILL BLESS YOU WITH IT. WHATEVERRRRRRR

    I'm sorry If I offened you, but you got to listen to me Bhaji.

    You can truly ask for anything you want jee, anything. To Vaheguru this whole world is nothing. So for you to even think/doubt that finding a gursikh bibi is hard, then all you are doing is drawing negativity my friend.

    Believe me when I say this, forget everything, forget this world even exists, forget your family, forget EVERYTHING. Just go to your local gurudwara and do a plee(ardaas), beg, beg, ohhhh beg for a gursikh bibi, keep begging, beg like you've never begged anyone before, beg for a gursikh bibi at maharaaj's charan(feet). GO for it bhaji, I believe in you man.

    Vaheguru Ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

    Veerai, pyari benti, please quote gurbani tuks correctly.

    jo maagehi thaakur apunae thae soee soee dhaevai

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