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All I can add is that The Battle should have been outside the GOLDEN TEMPLE, because the Sikh militants where inside the complex it gave the indian government an excuse. (I am not sure what I said is right because I dont know if the Indian government was targetting the complex initially)

That’s a valid point. I can’t understand why the Jung was not fought away from built up areas, the public, and of course the Hari Mandir sahib?

Historically, it is seen that Anandpur Sahib is the safest place for Sikhs when it comes to war like situations. The forts of Anandpur Sahib with their inter-connecting underground tunnels were meant for defence and war-like purposes.

Thank God you did not find the photo of the scene where both of them are getting intimate. "World War 2 photo of Sikh getting intimate with goree"

All this is guru jees punishment to me and im so sad and alone.

Guru never punishes.

Have faith. Be Strong

^^^^

I don't deny what you say.

But in you post your choice of words were very poor. Although now you have edited it to say "hence they are also responsible ****". You know what I am talking about.

I highly doubt that all the ones killed were his guards. I know for a fact that one of them was a medical doctor. He might have been the chief minister's doctor but imagine how many countless lives he must have cured or saved in his career. Please don't make assumptions on the dead bystanders.

^^^WOW ! What hate !! Since when did Khalsa start thinking like that.

Every arrow of Guru Gobind Singh ji was mounted with half an ounce of gold. Its object was to alleviate the suffering of the person killed or injured. There was no hate. Can you see him or any of his Khalsa saying, " You deserve to die a dog's death because you choose to fight under Aurangzeb's army"

Can you see Bhai Kanhayia Ji saying to injured Mughal Soldiers, " I won't give you any water, you dirty dog"

What a shame.....

^^^

mainu jinna math aundha see, main khalaar tha

baaki aap hee sumbhar layo te carry kar lo. :wub: :wub:

Without getting into details:

"Kirat Karo Wand Chako Naam Japo". This defines a Sikh to Me.

Building on what B4ND4 veer said, a Sikh is a student:

A child asked his mom once "Why has God send us on this earth, and when our time is done, we have no choice; we have to die and go back to God. Why send us in the first place when we eventually have to die and go back? What a logistical nightmare!!!"

Mom: "To Learn, to gain knowledge"

Child: "What?"

Mom clarifies: "In the mornings, even if you don't want to go, I force you to go to school. I pretty much drag you to school. Because, I want you to learn something. However, I the one who forced you to go, eagerly wait for you when school is done, and I am worried if you are late. In the same fashion, God forces you to leave and become a life long learner (SIKH), but when your time is done, he eagerly awaits you"

I've got it !!!

I think for most of us, this formula applies, and what is engrained into our heads by our parents when it comes to marriage:

Not Sikh = Bad

Sikh = Not Bad

However, our friend over here has come across the genius mathematical logic:

Assumptions:

Sikh : "Non Khalsa" Types

Adding Equation 1 & 2

Not Sikh + Sikh = Bad + Not Bad

(Not + 1)Sikh = (Not + 1) Bad

(Not + 1) gets cancelled

Hence proven, Sikh = Bad :WW:

Bro the way i see it the female is the queen of the household, but once the house is broken down then the family and kids etc are messed up. We need to go back to the past social order of things but that cant be done with equal rights for womens bullsh*t. So the only way we can change things is exercise our right to go with non-punjabi sikh girls to bring decent gals into our community and in turn let the slags do what slags do and not let them let them have so much power over the future of generation of Sikhs.

After reading your proposals, which are quite amusing, I come to the following conclusion:

Majjh bhaich ke ghoree layee;

Dhudh peenho raye, lidh chaknee payee.

^^^ur right.

Gall Mukdhee ethe yaa kee,

Jithe Rabb ne Sanjog banaya, viyaah tha othe hee honha ya.

Simple reason why many guys rather get amrried toa girl in india is this ( this is how one guy put it)

I dont wanna be walknig into a bar or something with my wife and then next guy comes up to me and says I fcuk'd your miss's in high school behind the school shed.

Most boys seem to like sleeping around but when it comes to marriage they want a virgin good girl from india.

Sad but true.

girls in punjab are not that innocent either !!!! :wub:

True..

But the bad apples in Punjab are known to everyone. They are the notorious ones.

The girls in UK, Canada, or States are different. You see them with family and they'll be the ideal daughters looking like smita patel. You see them anywhere outside, they'll be chain smoking and downing bacardi and rum, looking like paris hilton. My observation, but there are still some good ones.

Next time these punks come overseas to Kabaddi tournaments, show them what's up. Drag them around the U.K and Canada and show them what it feels like. when these people come on our turf, let's show them that the sikh quam is still alive.

......and how many kabaddi players have you dragged around before you get put in an ankle lock.

Apart from Gurdwaras, which you probably know:

These are the places you should visit

- Rangla Punjab / Haveli , Jalandhar

- Science City, Kapurthala

- Punjab Agricultural University, Rural Museum, Ludhiana

- Chandigarh

- Tiger Safari, Ludhiana

- The back lanes of old bazaars of Amritsar to get some sense of olden times

- all the rehrees that serve junk food i.e. kulche, gol gappe, pau bhaji, etc

- Kanjli Wetlands, Kapurthala

- and many many more

and while you are there help someone sow some paddy to get some insight into Punjabi farming.

Watch out Punjab !!

Bond.......................SunnybondSingh is coming

:T: Just Kidding

Have fun...If you have family over there, they can take you to a lot of places of interest.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji in his shabads has made reference to "Hindustan", and how it is being terrified by Turk invaders. I do not believe he meant to say the place he lived in was the "land of thieves and slaves".

So, the land mass or peninsula in general (even it were small kingdoms) as a whole was known as Hindustan. So, Guru Gobind Singh Ji was born in Hindustan.

Your argument is like saying, “I was born in Doaba, not Punjab”

Or bettery yet “I was born in Scotland, not United Kingdom”

It where all little kingdoms and also mughals

Who each day RAPED ur HINDUSTAN

So, do you get a good laugh when you read Guru Nanak Dev Ji's "Babar Bani"

Here the original poster, a Nirankari is asking for Khalistan. Then reasons are quite amusing....

http://www.paktribune.com/pforums/posts.ph...531&start=1

Just trying to explain some Singhs brothers/sisters that Khalistan could be run by Sikhs,

Absolutely

The religious population demography of the Sikh Empire (Maharaja Ranjit Singh) was Muslim (60%), Hindu (25%) and Sikh (15%).

Khalistan will have something like this Sikh (50%), Hindu (45%), Muslim (5%).

Now the prime minister of India is a so-called Sikh who married his daughters to Hindus

Maharaja Ranjit Singh had Muslim wives. What's your point?

To all who are for Khalistan, we don't deserve it, because we have become too comfortable in the west. We are too soft or proud to work in our own fields, while our elders are waiting for bhaiyeea to work in the fields. Shame on us:

Go toil in the fields of Punjab first, and then ask for khalistan. Until then, sit down or you'll hurt your back. Its much easier shouting slogans and stirring the pot sitting from the west. maar dheyo, wadd dheyo !! But, as soon as the fire is in our own backyard here (eg: birmingham), we are talking about peace, cooler minds, understanding etc. What hypocrisy !!!

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070620/punjab1.htm#16

Farmers await labourers

Manish Sirhindi

Tribune News Service

Rajpura, June 19

Farmers in the state are finding it hard to even cultivate the paddy crop this season as the number of labourers coming from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar have dwindled.

Farmers from various parts of the state can be seen making a beeline outside the Rajpura railway station in order to get hold of migrant labourers arriving here. Some of the farmers are camping at the railway station for the past couple of days in hope of hiring them. Harkesh Singh, one of the farmers from Mehbobpur village, said he had been coming to the railway station twice a day to hire the labourers, but had not been able to hire anyone in the past two days.

To cultivate one acre four labourers are needed. Many farmers with acres of land have not been able to get even a single labourer this sowing season. Brothers Harjinder Singh and Narinder Singh, who own 20 acres at Sural Kalan village, said even as the pre-monsoon has hit the region and the season was ripe to sow the paddy, they had not been able to cultivate their land.

The reason being given for this shortage is that with the Bihar government starting several development projects in the state and the guaranteed employment scheme of the Union government, most of the labourers have found jobs in their home towns.

Punjabi landlords are reluctant to hire local Dalit labourers as they charge more and their output is less as compared to those from Bihar.

As of today there are at least 40 farmers waiting at the Rajpura railway station, while only five to six labourers are arriving here each day.

With each passing day the farmers are becoming more and more apprehensive about incurring huge losses as late sowing of paddy can lead to low yields. Karamvir Singh of Mardapur village said it was almost impossible to cultivate the fields without migrant labourers. “In case we do not get them, the season can prove to be a disaster for us,” he lamented.

then the argument of "sikhs cant run gurdwareh, how are thye going to run a country" doesnt stand at all, thats the point i was initially trying to make.

that is another lame argument that anti-khalistanis use to make their point. Are we really that incompetent? Ofcourse, we can run a country. That said, I am not for Khalistan (i'll keep my reasons to myself), but we are smart enough to do anything.

P:S: - Rooh-aafzaa wich 7-Up te dhudh paakee peeyaa karo................ Now, that just reminded me of chabeels in Punjab.

^^^

i didn't understand the movie enough to give it away. If you get it, please explain it to me too.

Don't be too sure my friend. The way Canada is accepting Afghan and Pakistani refugees these days, the situation may be very similar here in the coming few years. Our next generation over here will have to deal with this.

go ask the dakaan man in india hu has nearly evry diff material under the sun!

"Dakaan Man" -- Sounds like a superhero

Its true though, the "dakaan man" in India has everything, and he'll show what ever you prefer. In most cases, you can try it and return it if you don't like it.

Narinder Paaji, you need to drink some rooh-aafzaa, glucose paake.

When did I say respect him or be proud of him because he is PM of India. I show him respect because as a Sikh, he has accomplished something in his life. His resume is widely available on the net for everyone's viewing. I don't need to copy and paste it over here. He might not be a tactical politician, but he stands with the best of them and you know he is the smartest. The world considers him as one of the best economist of our times.

Anyways, naa tusee manNna, na main. Kee faydhaa.

Why would anyone watch this movie in the first place. I would be much more entertained staring at garbage for three hours.

Talking about Singhs, I went to see the "Pirates of the Caribbean 3"a few days ago. Another garbage movie, but in the climax, the pirates from all over have a secret meeting. And one pirate group is made of Sardars and they speak Punjabi in a squeaky tone. Maybe RSS has infiltrated hollywood too :lol: .

malmal .... is it cloth with silky touch ???? i mean how it stays over its to silky to to hold isnt it ... go for rubia ....

rubia is much better as jassa says.

you can try "malaayee rubia".

I think i mentioned this earlier, but NIHAAL is just another one of those bharti/agent monkeys who seem to appear on these forums a few times never to be seen again. Keep that in mind.

Below ive attached a post by MLQLK that completely refutes the argument of "sikhs cant even run a gurdwara, how can they run a country?"

For all the Manmohan Singh lovers out there, who I'm sure are mostly anti-khalistani, well let's use your buddy Mamohan Singh as a pro-khalistan answer to the common rant about how sikhs can't even run a Gurdwara let alone a sovereign Sikh homeland.

well Manmohan Singh, a sikh by all accounts I've read, is "running" a country of over one billion people and the sikh population is 2%.

So I think a Khalistan, with 60% sikh population, and fraction of the population, can be run by a sikh.

can you imagine when they were going to choose Manmohan Singh as PM, if someone said, "man these guys can't even run their Gurdwaras, how is a sikh gonna run India?"

Surprise surprise, it seems people are praising Manmohan Singh as one of the most educated PMs India has ever had. Hmm a sikh, smart, yes sir. Smart enough to run a nuclear power with over a billion people.

now your probably gona say, well Manmohan singh is not really running the country its really Sonia Gandhi, well yeah, so that shows your Bharat likes to put on shows for the world. Either way, Bharati sikhs are in a bind with the above logic against a sikh homeland.

If a sikh can run the mighty Hindustan, we can surely run a tiny little mini-nation khalistan? no?

peace.

Fateh.

That is a pretty lame logic Singh. Everyone really knows who is running the country (put it however you may). Manmohan Singh is well respected because he is an intellectual, or a statesman you may say. Most of that respect comes from what he did for the economy in the early nineties. Otherwise, he probably does not know much about politics. Howeever, in todays age, he has probably done more good to the Sikh image in the world than most of our so called leaders. When he stands shoulder to shoulder with the top leaders of the world (recently G-8 for instance) with Guruji's crown on his head, don't tell me you don't feel proud, no matter how much you despise India.