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It is possible that Guru Nanak Dev Ji went all the way into Europe. Only Waheguroo knows. The history of Gurus Udasis is very vague when it comes to places away from the subcontinent. I have heard this report before, and someone suggested that the pillar might have been erected by Sikh Soldiers stationed there during the world wars.

What do you guys say: Good learning tool or Beadbi? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVudZfux4o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-R81_Vwssw

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northco...1mi9turban.html I would hate to leave a brother hanging, but common on. I would be offended to if I was in his shoes....But something about this bothers me. Its not like he was being barred from a library, a community hall, or a social gathering. The guy was being barred from a pub where he was going to have a beer with friends. I understand when he says that wearing a turban is his religious compulsion, but what about the religious rule that he should not drink. I am confused....

As I said that the video gets it points across. However, I don't believe it is effective parchar. At the most, it is satire. Its given people something to talk about which includes four pages on this thread. As a statistical sample, start from the first post on this thread, and see how many posts have actually talked about the message and what should be done to correct the astray youth. I agree that it has got many people talking, but isn't it just useless chatter? So, the video's effectiveness as a parchar video is debatable. Its a good joke and leave it that. That doesn't make it right. Kann jehre marjee pasoN fhar lai, fer vee kan hee fharnaa hai. A hate term is a hate term.

The video is well made and gets its points across. But it should be targetted towards all the youth that are away from Sikhi (including the ones born in UK). Picking on youth that come from India and working with the existing stereotypes is not right. Why the elitism? The video starts of with the "Fresh off the boat" tag. FOB is a pretty insulting term used so casually amonst us Sikhs and Punjabis nowadays, but it is amusing how we never see that as hate. Just a thought.

Marijuana and tobacco have nothing to do with each other.

What kind of awareness does a AK47 hoodie bring? _oh_OLD:

Easy over there bud ! Sikhs that you call "Bhape" are the majority that got slaughtered in the Delhi riots.

These are american soldiers in an army humvee filming themselves as they go through traffic in Iraq. No wonder everyone hates them for being arrogant, driving around just pounding vehicles. However, to give them the benefit of the doubt, they are in a bitter street fight in Iraq. And in a millitary street fight, there are hidden dangers and snipers everywhere. They will be like sitting ducks if they get caught in traffic.

It does look like a Sindhi Mandir. Guru Nanak Gurpurab is the biggest day for Sindhis, as they were greatly influenced by his teachings when Guru Nanak Dev Ji passed through Sindh during one of his Udasis. Celebrating his Gurpurab (in their own way) is their centuries old traditon or religion if you may. Anyways, I copy pasted this from one Sindhi Website:

Anyone who is exceptionally tall, is jokingly referred to as a "OONTH" (Camel). In the malwa region of Punjab, the camel is known as "BOTHA". So I suggest................."BOTHA HIRAN" for giraffe.

A giraffe is actually related to animal group of "DEER". The punjabi word for "DEER" is "HIRAN". So any new punjabi name for giraffe should include the word "HIRAN"

Allow me to add my 2 cents.... The actual English word "Giraffe" is also borrowed. The real name of this animal comes from the Arabic language in which it is known as "Ziraffa". So, if the english can take that and change it to "Giraffe", I think we should be able to change it to "Jaraaf" in Punjabi.

Those are not healthy comments.

Again, depends on what school you attend.......

Depends on what school you attended......

Take it easy guys! Don't blame the whole system for one persons criminal stupidity. My wife is a qualified and experienced teacher from India, and yes they do study human psychology and child development along with the other necessary stuff. The new breed of teachers that have been graduating for the last ten years are different and are much more understanding. I have never known them to hit children. Its the older teachers that still think "Chitthar" is the way to discipline children that are causing all the problems. Many teachers got fired from our school for disciplining children too harshly. You'll never see those stories in news. My point is that with changing times, attitudes are changing and schools are much more aware of these things. Also, in my time, we used to take the "Chitthar" and just shut-up. However, the kids these days don't take it sitting down anymore. Lastly, in this sad case, the school should also be held criminally responsible if there is proper evidence.

Example of a useless page filling debate has been demonstrated thus far.

As far as I know, and I might be wrong, this story has nothing to do with Lohri. The story that you are referring to is linked with Holi and not Lohri.

Here is what I know about Lohri, and the prevalent view in Punjab. Just to start, Lohri in Punjab has nothing to do with Sikhism or Hinduism (or Brahamanism) as one would call it. However, it does have a cultural significance in Punjab, and is actually done in the memory of a folk hero. There used to be a robin hood like figure, Dulla Bhatti (A Muslim outlaw) during the times of Akbar and Guru Arjan Dev Ji. He was very helpful to the poor and needy. He once saved a young hindu girl from the clutches of other outlaws, and treated her like his daughter. As she was a hindu, he arranged for her marriage with a hindu boy, but there was no priest available to do the laavan. All he knew was that hindus walk around fire while the priest prays. So, he lit a fire, and asked them to walk around it while he sang a funny song (pretty much anything that came to his mind). Here is what he sang: Sundar Munderiye ho! Tera kaun vicaharaa ho! Dullah bhatti walla ho! Dullhe di dhee vyayae ho! Ser shakkar payee ho! Kudi da laal pathaka ho! Kudi da saalu paatta ho! Salu kaun samete! Chache choori kutti! zamidara lutti! Zamindaar sudhaye! bade bhole aaye! Ek bhola reh gaya! Sipahee pakad ke lai gaya! Sipahee ne mari eet! Sanoo de de lohri te teri jeeve jodi Paheenve ro te phannve pit! ” Later on Dulla was captured by Akbar and executed. Lastly, Lohri was actually meant to be celebrated as a thanks to a folk hero (Dulla) for newly weds and a new season, and then people started celebrating for newly born children (boys and girls). As prejudices prevaled, people started celebrating it only for new born boys later on. At the present, it is quite common for people to celebrate lohri for new born girls also. Also, in Punjab it is not celebrated as a Hindu Festival Please correct me if I am wrong.

No offense to the other posters, but your opinion has been the most educated one in this thread so far.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21017766-401,00.html http://www.ibnlive.com/news/noida-killings...ed/30424-3.html sexual abuse, murder, possible cannibalism, possible organ selling.... these sick individuals are a disgrace to humanity.

http://cities.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=216365 This is the most disturbing news coming out of India right now. It is possibly the worst serial murder case ever since it involves children. The main accused is a Mona, Mohinder Pandher, a highly educated guy who was a fully turbaned Sikh till few years ago.

My motive was not to attack your character veer, but I apologize if you have been offended. I am against idol worship, but this post began with passing a quick judgement on the character of the sikhs in the video. Is that not wrong? I know that that there are uneducated muppets everywhere but pooling everyone in the same category is just not right? The video does not show the Sikhs praying to the photo or doing matha tek to the photo. As for the flowers, that could have been put by the family before the prabhat feri came in. Its like I do paath in my room, and I have a photo in my room. My mind is focussed on the paath, not the photo. Don't get too hung up on this issue. Its not idol worship. As I write this, the SS NEWS MENU BAR to the right of this screen is scrolling up, and a photo of Guru Gobind Singh Ji just came up, and I thought of the Gurpurab, and said "Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh". I am not praying to this image or using it as an idol. It just reminded me of my Guru.

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