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  1. A book titled sikh itihas in hindi released by sgpc later withdrawn which demeans Guru Har Rai ji by mentioning Ramrai was born to maid mentioned by giani Harinder Singh in time tv is another black deed by badal stooges even a severe punishment will be less I am tring to get hold of the book name of author is not mentioned it seems to mischief of a rss or a marxist lobby. So sikhs allover the world should boycot badals and throw his stooges from sgpc .
  2. First of, we need serious agreement which shaheed pictures should be on there, we shouldn't. I am in view - not all singhs which are deemed to be shaheed are genuine shaheed. Their lives have to studied throughly verified through various panthic jathas. Second refrain from posting pictures of shaheed singhs with weapon in nagar kirtan as it sends out wrong message of violence. Lastly, It be best sikh vatican- Sri Akaal Takth sahib comes with press statements on float of sikh shaheeds. It be official and will refute those who like to have khalistan, extremism, terrorism spin on it, refute the claims that shaheed pictures are shown here are consider back home in punjab by people of punjab and sikh throne- sri akaal takth as terrorist, once sri akaal takht sahib comes with press statement on it, its official, its end of story. They already have sikh shaheed pictures of 1984 at Darbar Sahib. So it shouldn't be problem as long as we post same shaheed pictures as it would be consistent with sri akaal takth sahib declaration of shaheeds. U neo singh seems to be supporter of a person who is cease to be sikh by removing the seal of guru THAT is KESH Ujal dosangh is not sikh so why give him undue importance he is like dirt few years back when he came to ludhiana he supported biharis which led to protests from local sikhs. so why we give importance to a dirty article like ujal who is dumped in dustbin. As far as discussing with him is concerned let he invite anyone and I will hold open debate at any place.
  3. Iam not slandering anyone but building hindu temples and propagating it is like creating mahasapan and is againist the sikh tenets sikh only beleives in almighty IKONKAR not in any gods and goddeses a true sikh is the swroop of guru ji and Akal pukurakh only great mahapuruashs are sikh shaeeds from medival times to modern day those r bharmgyanis sikhi seeks sarbat da bhalla and is a only religion where all types of people are welcome what about his attempts to create a parrellel DURBAR SHAIAB which is unpardonale remember onething even Ram rai , Sri chand were all spiritualy high but can never be regarded as sikhs so is the case of most of the sants they can be high on spirituality but if low on rehat Guru ji will never admit them in his fold as guru ji has said REHAT PYARI MUDH KO SIKH PYRA NAHIN
  4. U r totaly unaware of facts but r twisting facts Sant ji was never scared of indian army secondly it was gameplan of antisikh forces to prop up nirankaris this cult was getting help from Sardar patel in 1948 and no cult became strong in small year iT WAS the RSS AND ITS ELEMENTS WHO GAVE SUPPORT TO indira, people like vajpayee openly supported anti sikh cults and called indira as durga it was a fascist hindu ideology which r attacking sikhs we must not forget that it was the fanatic sadhus who became worst enemies of sikhs during the life of GURU NANAK . A section of muslims became enemies of sikhs during the time of guru arjun dev ji it was the political rather a religious cause as large no of pathans and other high ranking mughal officials were turning towards sikhism so do not go by self styled writers go by the truth. Nehru Mobarak Ali - Created Bloodshed in Punjab in 1947 Indira Maimuna Begum - Created Bloodshed in Punjab again in 1984 Rajiv Ghazi Khan - Created Bloodshed against Sikhs in Delhi and in Punjab in the name of removing Terrorism for more than 10 years. Ever wondered why terrorism in punjab came to end after the death of Rajiv Ghazi Khan who was the actual person carrying the torch of terrorism in which he wanted to burn entire punjab. I am glad that a brave Indian named Prabhakaran stood up for the rights of Tamils and threw this person in garbage where he actually belonged. I SALUTE TO THE BRAVE BHINDRANWALE I SALUTE TO THE BRAVE PRABHAKARAN May God Give thousand times deaths to the enemies of Sikhs who are prospering under Congress. Indira Gandhi's real name was 'Maimuna Begum'. She lived like a Muslim all her life. The Sultan of Saudi Arabia had invited her to Mecca. It is noteworthy that only Muslims are allowed to visit Mecca. She once told Shri. M.O. Mathai, the personal secretary of Nehru, her father, 'I hate Hindus. I will never marry a Hindu.'-(Ref.:swordoftruth.com ) Not 'Indira Feroze Gandhi','Indira Feroze Khan'! Feroze Gandhi is considered a Parsi because his mother was a Parsi before her marriage to his Muslim father Nawab Khan; but since she converted to Islam before her marriage, their son Feroze Khan is a Muslim and not a Parsi by birth. This was the reason why Kamala Nehru opposed Indira's marriage to him. Despite a Muslim wedding (nikah) with Feroze in a London Masjid, a fake picture of their marriage in Vedic style was published to fool the Indians ! A fake picture of Indira and Feroze marriage in Vedic style (Published to fool the Indians) http://www.hindujagruti.org/activities/campai... Feroze Khan married Indira in a Masjid in London. Well-known English newspapers publicized this event. When the couple returned to India, it was arranged to get a photograph of the couple married in Vedic style for publishing in India. Later all these photographs were exhibited in 'Anandbhavan'. Shri. M.O. Mathai, Nehru's personal secretary has written this in his book,'Reminiscences of the Nehru Age'(now banned by the Indian Government) that 'due to some inevitable reason the otherwise prudent Nehru allowed this wedding to be performed in Vedic style despite knowing that performing an inter-caste and an inter-religious marriage in Vedic style was illegal.' With the advice of Mahatma (?) Gandhi, Nehru changed the name of 'Feroze Khan' to 'Feroze Gandhi' When Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi learnt that Indira had embraced Islam he immediately summoned Nehru and advised him to change the name of his son-in-law from Feroze Khan to Feroze Gandhi. The purpose in this was to fool Indians that he was Parsi and not a Muslim. This was done by a renowned lawyer from Allahabad, Sir Sapru, a close associate of Motilal Nehru, in a Mumbai court by presenting an Affidavit. Even today, mystery shrouds Feroze Gandhi's death! The truth is that after the birth of Rajiv Gandhi, Indira and Feroze were living separately, but did not separate legally. Feroze Gandhi perpetually harassed Nehru for money and also interfered in his political maneuvers. Nehru was fed up of Feroze' ways and had given instructions to deny access to Feroze Gandhi to his official residence 'Teenmurti Bhavan'. In his book Shri. Mathai writes,'Both Nehru and Indira Gandhi heaved a sigh of relief after the death of Feroze Gandhi'. Just as Feroze Gandhi started getting some political acclaim, suddenly in 1960 he expired. Even today his death is a mystery. Feroze Gandhi had even contemplated a second marriage, but he died before that. These r personal details which have no relevance as per prabhakaran is concerned he and his group faced tanks and heavy guns for just limited time and were having anti tank weapons regular air force besides submarines still he got defeat but sikhs led by Sant ji with no air force ,no anti tank armour faced air borne gunships ,mustard gas shells of 155 mm fired from russian mountain guns and t 72 tanks not the vijant tanks still singhs came out victorious giving dhoti topiwallahs a befitting reply which they could not forget if we ignore the defiling of holy place it is a milatary victory till the last breath of great bhidrawale no indian troop could advace even a inch and later singhs shook the roots of indian state due lack of political support the movement got setback not the defeat now movement is getting consolidated in new form and will be victorious soon.
  5. WHAT I INTEND TO SAY THAT "A PROCESS" WAS STARTED BY INDIRA MAIMUNA BEGUM TO COMPLETELY SIDELINE SIIKHS FROM MAINSTREAM INDIA. Also she had a long grudge against Sikhs since Nehru - family was a loyal to Aurangzeb since they were Sunni-Muslim and not pandit. They were previously known as bandit which they turned into pandit and later to Gandhi to fool indians especially Hindus. There are unconfirmed reports that After Guru Gobind Singh two sahebzada were killed mercilessly, the bandit family of nehru ancestors received whole lot of money and land from aurangzeb. They are the descendants of Sunni-Muslim family and were loyal to the Aurangzeb. THIS "INVSIBLE PROCESS" initiated by Indira Maimuna Begum to sideline SIKHS took the shape of Khalistan after 1984. However, if you look at the whole process you will see that the initiater of this process was EVIL MAIMUNA BEGUM and no other whose motive was to kill as many sikhs as possible and that too within the holy premises of Harmandir Sahib. :sad: The only way for Indira Maimuna Begum to attack Akal-Takht was to first label Sant Bhindranwale as a pro-khalistani terrorist which is completely FALSE. This is what I was reffering to as FALSE. Sorry if you felt bad :umm: He only acquired weapons to turn heat on the false Nirankaris who were responsible for the death of innocent 17 sikhs and had full support from the Congress because Indira Maimuna Begum wanted to kill Sikhs at every cost. Sant Bhindranwale sacrificed his life for people of India. He would have done same if there was an attack on any other religion by any cruel barbarian as (Aurangzeb/Indira Maimuna Begum) to prove True Word of Guru Tegh bahadur. I heard his radio broadcast where he said that "I want a Hindu to live a life of a True Hindu" "I want a Muslim to live a life of a True Muslim" and "I also want a Sikh to live a life of a True Sikh" Where does question arises of Hindu-Sikh fight when fight was a between a false group of Nirankaris [claiming themself as part of sikhism] who look like Hindus but their religious leaders look like Sikhs. Sikhs are integral part of India and labelling Sant Bhindwanwale as terrorist would be similar as saying that Shaheed Bhagat Singh was a terrorist, which Nehru/ Mohandas Gandhi always projected and suceeded. Indira Maimuna Begum was not a daughter of Mohandas Gandhi, neither her husband then how did she became Indira Gandhi after death of Mohandas Gandhi ?? She was a corrupt lady who was neither Hindu, nor Muslim, and it feels sad that people from our community ask you questions "I did not know she was a muslim". She acquired Hindu name just to fool both Hindu/Sikhs and to project that there is some major fight going on between them and Khalistan is going to be created. Search Google for "Maimuna Begum", you will see thousands of links on who was Maimuna Begum. Ever wondered why there is a HAJ Terminal only at Indira Maimuna Begum Airport at Delhi ??????????????????????????? Indira Maimuna Begums husband name was Feroze Ghazi Khan which he cleverly changed into Gandhi since they knew that most of the Indians are fools and will believe whatever they tell them. Read this http://groups.yahoo....r/message/15730 There are thousands of Hindu websites which name Indira as Indira Maimuna Begum ? Are they stupid to label someone from their community as Muslim now ??? :6 She was a sunni-muslim and not a Hindu 100 % sure References: http://www.krishnajnehru.blogspot.com/ http://www.sikhsiyas...r-of-june-1984/ http://mynewsscrapbo...hru-family.html It is sad that some people from our community are unaware of this fact and make their decisions without looking into this angle. U r totaly unaware of facts but r twisting facts Sant ji was never scared of indian army secondly it was gameplan of antisikh forces to prop up nirankaris this cult was getting help from Sardar patel in 1948 and no cult became strong in small year iT WAS the RSS AND ITS ELEMENTS WHO GAVE SUPPORT TO indira, people like vajpayee openly supported anti sikh cults and called indira as durga it was a fascist hindu ideology which r attacking sikhs we must not forget that it was the fanatic sadhus who became worst enemies of sikhs during the life of GURU NANAK . A section of muslims became enemies of sikhs during the time of guru arjun dev ji it was the political rather a religious cause as large no of pathans and other high ranking mughal officials were turning towards sikhism so do not go by self styled writers go by the truth.
  6. It was in dainik jarran and incident happened in jalandhar and he was recharging his friend mobile from the shop the shopkeeper and his son paaed some remarks which led to fight he was not be blamed wht would happen if a sikh had thrown a janue on ground it is tormenting for a true sikh and sikhs r always at receving end that singh has shown the way.
  7. GUR FATEH As per news item of 27 dec.2009 two shopkeepers of Rama mandi jalandhar were shot dead by a army lancenaik as while rechrarging his moblie after heated arguments both father and son owner of shop threw the dastar of a sikh soldier named Sukhbir singh in the ground and pulled his beard and kesh. That sikh could not sleep whole night due to disgrace and humilation given to him by communal minded persons after 1 or 2 days he stole a pistol and two bullets from armoury and shot dead both the persons with one bullet each as he was a sharp shooter from the one of emty the police contacted the company and went after the regiment the 7th sikh. So we must support his family as although it is bad to kill someone but the disgrace and disrespect shown to sacred kakars made him take this step the sikh groups the damdamitaksal, dal khalsa must support this sikh. And also he proved his skill one bullet one prey.
  8. I request the admin or other members to post more info about this ashutosh pig so that sikhs may be aware of this pig full of dirt and be aware about his activities.
  9. If all members like or not I have seen his comments on many pages particularly about the demeaning Guru Angad Dev ji he wants attention if I knows about him I promise I will send him to hell it will be great honour to me.
  10. Jagroop brar is a sirgum and cannot be called a sikh how a sirgum is given a saroopa when no Ardass of sirgum canbe done . A person not loyal to sikhi cannot be loyal to anyone . Have sikhs ever indulged in large scale crimes arson etc in canada or britain? he should mind his bussiness and get out of here.
  11. These issuses u raised r may be true but u have missed out most important points and shows outward concept of sikhi not the deep meaning of sikhi first u say in ur post every one should be carbon copy of GURU GOBIND SINGH JI which is impossible even Great singhs like Taru Singh, Mani Singh ji, mati dass ji regarded themselves as humble servants of guru how can u imagine every one to be carbon copy. It is true ego among socalled sikh scholars has led to controversies these r paid agents of anti sikh forces. Noormehalias r worst enemies of sikhi. U talk about the language Gurmukhi not the punjabi is language of GURUS UNIQUENESS OF GURBANI IS THAT IF A PERSONS WITHOUT THE KNOWLDGE OF GURMUKHI LISTENS TO GURU BANI WITH TRUE HEART HE CAN UNDERSTAND IT AND PUTS HIS SOUL ON TO IT.U CAN ASK SINGHS LIKE AMERICAN sikhs, DID THEY KNEW GURMUKHI answer is no they became singhs with just listening on many occasions the Guru shabad Guru NANAK used gurmukhi and people understood it . This is the mystery of Guru Shabad if u even listen it u can experience divine pleasure u talk about rituals there r no rituals but displine. Akal Takaht is no institution but the Supreme governing body of sikhs
  12. Shiv sena has called for Punjab bandh on 14th dec and threaten to remove the pictures of sant ji and singhs have resolved to counter it by distributing free posters on that day this is ploy to get hindu support for a Pig who is full of dirt noormehlia (bound for hell).
  13. BLOOM IS RIGHT. Doesn't matter if its Tat Khalsa or Ek Noor Khalsa Fauj, end of the day they are nindaks of Guru Gobind Singh Ji and of those like Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Ji Bhindranwale, therefore there is no need for them to take part in the panths affairs. Dasam granth bani is one of the foundations of sikhi. no wonder a few of them turned up and started shouting slogans against sant samaj, it wasnt because of sant samaj, it was because they oppose the views of most of the sant samaj like the views on dasam granth. These nindaks of Guru Gobind singh ji can shout what they want, it doesnt matter, they cant do nothing themself, except about 15-20 of them turned up MAX according to everyone to shout a few jakaare then all of them ran off doing their nindya of dasam granth and decided to turn up at the funeral again to make some noise when the family of the shaheed were trying to carry out the funeral. what a disgrace. both of these missionary organisations should be excommunicated and their 15-20 or so members should never have been allowed anywhere near the funeral or in any panthic march for that matter. SikhSangat does not support nindaks of 10th guru ji's bani, we do not want their anti-dasam granth propaganda here. the panth has awoken to give these nindaks a fitting reply. das nimana, please delete all reference to these guru nindaks, thanks! First this is the topic against noormehalias most dangerous antisikh cult although not biggger than sirsa dera or nirankaris but very oganized ,withe backing of all poltical groups of the Punjab like badals, BJP,Leftists and congress see today the statement of bhatal saying all persons have freedom to practice their religion.Secondly most of the injured belongs to Tat Khalsa jathebandi .Is it right time to demean other sikh groups this infighting led to defeat of sikhs in sirsa dera case except for brave sikhs of Mubai and Maharastra who got arrested accused persons arrested less than a week because deccan sikhs r united thwy love shasters and kakars .See all fingers r not equal there may be differences between ideas which can be sorted out by sitting togeather on specific agenda, but unfortunately due to self seekers leaders of panth one and another disputes r created in panth.NOW WE need pratical approach see how the most of the hindus stood with sikhs we must admit itexcept for some industrists , and bjp common hindu did not support noormehalias now to get hindu support SHIV SENA HAS GIVEN CALL FOR PUNJAB BANDH TO PROTEST THE PICTURE OF SANT SIPAHI JARNAIL SINGH BHINDRAWALE ON 14TH DECEMBER.
  14. There r reports of large scale arrests of singhs in Punjab ahead of Punjab Bandh from ludhana ,Patiala, Samrala illegaly without presenting them in courts.
  15. I was first to begin writng againist the before the samagam there r rumours that even local mla fired at singhs and caualties r much more now punjab bandh call has been given for monday.
  16. I have just reccived a call from ludhiana some young singhs have attacked and injured by noormehlias one of injured is in hospital. I have just reccived a call from ludhiana some young singhs have attacked and injured by noormehlias one of injured is in hospital. singh has been badly injured by noormehlias
  17. I have aleready written a post in this regard main organiser is Harish bedi BJP MLA of ludhana apart from hindu surakha samiti shivsena , etc harish bedi son last year had removed the dastar of a gursikh shpkeeper on issuse of parking and threatened him with revolver using disgraceful comments about the sikhs. Harish bedi is getting call from the hell from his friend Shambu Prashad a BJP leader of Patiala who had done beadbi of SRI GURU GRANTH SHAIB and burnt the gurdwara in 1982 and sent to hell by singhs in 1987. Now it seems harish is getting urgent call to come and stay with Shambu Prasad as he needs company.
  18. sorry for spellings erors due to net problem. correct is large no of deras and making sikh girls as prostitues on 2 th december sikhs r planning big march from gurdwara shadeean in ludhiana.
  19. no bro noormehalias r operating from Amritsar, malout, batala, Morinda,Mukatsar, Nawansher,Banga,Tarntaran, Moga in punjab and in haryana kALKA, Karnal, pinjore and have hugh dsras in noormehal ,Malout, Batala and has got land in setting up deras in tarantaran ,mohali and in haryana they have a big dera in kalka and in shimla although they have thin following in shimla. As far their intent is concerned they have openly declared they will wipe out sikhi from this eath with the firing of guns in batala 3 years back near the damdami taksal headquaters in chowk mehta. It is only dera after the 1975 of nirankaris to declare it making them most dangerous than sirsa dera unlike sirsa dera where large no of followers r out of ignorance noormehilas have highly orgainised set of armed gangs weapons were supplied by badal and co. Prominent followers r Kewal Singh badal vice president of SGPCand his sister, Surinder badal,S.S VIRK, DALIP SINGH RANA WWE WRETLER KNOWN AS GREAT KHALI, Akali MLA of noormehal and nakodar, BJP MLA OF LUDHANA. THEY MISGUIDE INNOCENT GIRLS OF SIKH FAMILIES BY HYPTNOSING THEM and selling them as protitutes in darbhanga in bihar . These r the black deeds od noormehelias
  20. Pig authosh is holding a big samagam with the permission of badal and co in ludhiana and hindu suraha samiti is giving sikhs threats of severe losses while makkar or makkara is quite doing nothing as the samagam is being held in ludhiana . Will the sikhs wake when sikhs will be shot down or hurt like in sirsa dera case as noormehilas r having selfloading rifles , AK-47, besides shotguns and other modern weapons . I personaly believe although no sikh likes to take away innocent lives but in case of selfdefensre one have to take preventive steps, The noormehilas will get proper messages if they gets killed. Why nihangs use guns to kill each other or sikhs fighting on minor issuses when a big python is encirling sikhs the anti sikh samagam is on 5th and sixth december.
  21. U r speaking like congress members who want to skip the issue tell me how can we stop this happening only 2 ways r for it punishing the culprit through law or killing by themselves and for avoiding this is one way that is arming each gursikh which would u like , It was a brutality which can never be forgotten ask the victims to forget it they may give u better answer.Amitabh and his family how ashwarya humilated the sikh sangat in britain is welknown during the shooting about 2 years back.
  22. U r right in Swwwayias both 33 and Tav Prasad hindu god shiva has been rejected in the stanza in Tav Prasad Kahu Re Ling gare latkayo kahu re pahan pooj dhariyo thereby rejecting all imaginary gods further the hindu gods who r full of lust can never be compared with sikh gurus or gursikhs who r swaroop of akal purukh himself.
  23. Time has come for sikhs to take proactive steps to highlight 1984 genocide. One step should be to boycott amitabh his son, aishwarya movies and shows for his role in inciting murderers during 1984 genocide. Sikhs in Punjab should not allow his or his families movies in cinema halls it will be first step to take action and sikhs living outside india should not interact with him. Akal Takht should pass hukumnama to sikhs not have any inks with persons accused of killing sikhs like jagdish tytler, sajjan kumar, arun nehru, bhajan lal kps gill, sumadh saini , k.s brar , g k gaur , kamal nath these r modern day abdalis
  24. Actualy H.S KOHLI main complainant againist Sajjan kumar was humilated by badal himself he went to residence of prakash chand badal along with Atinder pal Singh and his party delegates badal could had ignored atinder pal singh if he had any political rivalry but treatment given to Mr Kohli is unforgivable.So time has come to teach badal same lesson as deccan sikhs taught them last year at HUZOOR SHAIAB.
  25. Many self styled historians and people confuse themselves with jats of haryana, UP and Rajastan with jats of punjab who became sikhs later on . While jats of hindi belt were by caste jats but the jats of punjab means farmer further jats of punjab were most opressed before the birth of sikhism. During medival period hindi belt jats consisdered jats of punjab as outcastes and were sworn enemies of khalsa althogh few of them became sikhs.
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