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  1. WJKK, WJKF: I was curious is anyone could direct me to some online resources or could perhaps give me some gurbani references that make the case for why a Sikh woman should NOT be accompanied by male relatives/brothers during the laavan ceremony? I need to be able to respond to some family members who say there is nothing wrong with this practice and that this is "custom," but I disagree. In general my understanding that this is a hindu tradition which like so many other it seems have made their way into Sikhi due to ignorance of guru sahib's teachings amongst some within our community. As I see it, women are taught to be equal in our faith and I would argue that the laavan are for the couple only as they are building a new relationship with one another that is centered around Guru Sahib and no one else should be involved. This is the time for both the bride and groom to stand as equal partners on equal footing... do I have this right? Any feedback you guys can provide would be much appreciated. Thanks.
  2. I don't believe it is available in Punjabi, but you can purchase on Amazon.com and they ship worldwide... http://www.amazon.com/Fighting-Faith-Natio..._pr_product_top
  3. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: I just wanted to chime in as I see this thread has had some recent activity in light of the recent controversy surrounding the Sojhi curriculum at Fremont Gurdwara which I understand has now been removed... I'd like to thank everyone who has weighed in so far. I continue to believe that there is a great deal of potential for an entity like the Sikh Research Institute. As mentioned in my original post, they have done some good work such as helping with the making of the Widow Colony. But the good that they do should not give them a pass when they are wrong. I am convinced, now more than ever, that the worldwide sangat, particularly those here in North America need to stand up and refute some of what Harinder Singh is saying. Just to recap, here is a sampling of the more controversial aspects of Harinder Singh's "research" courtesy of Panthic Weekly: Do not believe in Dasam Granth Promote meat eating Promote pre-marital dating, do not allow parents in their camps Promote 3 bani nitnem with only 6 pauri Anand Sahib Do not believe in reading gurbani for our soul, only for research Believe Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a book of knowledge and not Pargat Guran Ki Deh Carry Guru Ji in suitcases to their camps etc Do not believe in Chaur Sahib, Parsad bhog, Guru Ji's bastar and other daily sewa Has changed Gurmantar from Waheguru to Vahguru Has removed reference to Sri Nankana Sahib from Ardas Has changed Dohre - from Guru Manyo Granth to Guru Panth Has disrespected Guru Ji by saying Dasam Pita Ji was saved by sikhs in Chamkaur (vs Guru saves us all) Has written disrespectful things about Pancham Pita's shaheedi and believe if Sukhmani Sahib could not save Guru ji from hot tavi, how can it help a sikh's problems I'm all for people having an opinion but he should be prepared to back these up. Ideally he would participate in a debate similar to the one that the Singhs in Toronto had with Kala Afghana a few years back. Bhai Bhinderpal Singh would strike me as a good person to participate in such a debate. From everything that I have heard, Harinder has so far refused to participate in a debate each time he has been requested to do so. I think we should try and identify folks within the community who are just as articulate as he is and tackle each one of his blasphemous assertions...just my two cents. Thoughts? Comments?
  4. I know they have developed a school curriculum for use in punjabi classes but I don't know what it consists of either....I believe it is called Sohji ( http://www.sikhri.org/program/solutions/sojhi.asp) Can anyone on this forum who has attended their workshops or listened to one of Harinder's lectures comment on them? Did you find the information he presented to be accurate? Was your experience more positive or negative? FYI, I noticed that they have a workshop scheduled in Toronto on August 9th entitled "Sevaadar"...perhaps some of the sangat from there who frequent this message board could attend and report back on their experience? There are links to some YouTube videos on their websites for other workshops/retreats they have conducted for those of you who are interested as well... Siddhak Retreat Promo Video: Grihast Retreat Promo Video:
  5. WJKK, WJKF: I was curious if anyone here had any additional insights into San Antonio based Sikh Research Institute? In taking a look at their website, http://www.sikhri.com some of what they do is to be commended. For instance, they helped to put together the movie The Widow Colony about the Delhi Riots which won widespread critical acclaim in telling the stories of the victims and their search for justice. But I'm also left scratching my head and wondering about what exactly they teach as part of their training seminars as it relates to Gurbani and moreover what it means to be a Sikh. Has anyone here participated in or have any direct knowledge of their work? Their executive director, Harinder Singh is a common speaker at various Sikh conferences throughout North America, particularly those aimed at the youth. Yet, little is known about who he is or where the institute gets its money. I have come across various bits and pieces on the internet suggesting that the Institute is nothing but a cult run by so called academics who have twisted Guru Sahib's teaching to fit their own individual tastes and desires. Unfortunately, I haven't seen alot of evidence to back up those claims... So this begs the question, are they a legit group or a wolf in sheep's clothing? :gg:
  6. BUMP...spread the word...although the event is tomorrow, you can still contribute afterwards online at http://www.jackiespeier2006.com/events?id=0030 Hope to see some of you there! :0)
  7. Sikhs4JackieEventFlyer.pdfContributionForm052006.pdfACTION ALERT: PLEASE FORWARD TO ALL INTERESTED PARTIES. SUPPORTING DOCS ATTACHED Dear Friends: Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh!!! The California Sikh Community is pleased to announce an “Afternoon with State Senator Jackie Speier,” Democratic Candidate for Lt. Governor on Saturday, May 20, 2006 from 11:30 a.m.-1:30 p.m in El Sobrante, CA. For complete details, including venue location, please e-mail host committee at sikhs4jackie at yahoo.com. All contributions welcome, including from those who are unable to attend (U.S. and legal residents only!). Senator Jackie Speier is currently the only state elected official to have a Gursikh on her legislative staff in Sacramento. She is a strong supporter of expanding hate crimes laws to better protect all Californians, including Sikh-Americans who have suffered tremendously in the aftermath of September 11th. Most recently, she helped facilitate high level meetings between national Sikh civil rights groups and California prison officials in an effort to prevent inmates who practice the Sikh faith from having their hair forcibly cut and/or removed. Senator Jackie Speier’s legacy as a policy-maker and public servant, begun over 25 years ago and continuing today as Assistant President Pro-Tem of the California Senate, is one of leadership, passion and courage. Jackie’s story and her commitment to public service began in Guyana in 1978 when, as a young congressional staff person, she nearly lost her life in an attempt to uncover the facts regarding the Reverend Jim Jones and his People’s Temple followers in Guyana. Over 900 people died that fateful day, including Congressman Leo Ryan and four other people traveling with him. Jackie was shot five times and left to die. As she has said many times, those 22 hours alone on the tarmac waiting for help to arrive molded her philosophy, her zest for work and life, and allowed her to see that no one is guaranteed a tomorrow. This extraordinary event has shaped her legislative agenda, her commitment to giving a voice to those who are not heard, and her tenacious ability to fight for her constituents and for the State of California. Jackie’s work has touched the lives of literally hundreds of thousands of Californians. Her uncompromising integrity and leadership have helped her make a difference, particularly for the women, children and seniors of our state. Over the past 25 years, Jackie has set an unprecedented record of over 300 pieces of legislation signed into law by both Democratic and Republican Governors. She has authored groundbreaking legislation in child welfare, health care, consumer protection and education, much of which has been used as templates for national legislation. In 2003, after a four year fight against powerful interests, Jackie Speier won Californians the right to control their personal financial information. Hailed as “landmark” legislation by the San Francisco Chronicle, SB1 protects consumer’s privacy against invasion by financial institutions, their affiliates, and identity thieves. Jackie’s privacy legislation provides California with the strongest protections in the country and is looked to as a basis for privacy laws nationwide. As Lieutenant Governor, Jackie has pledged to reinvigorate the higher education system in California and to continue her work as a watchdog of government waste. For more info, please visit: Jackie Speier for Lt. Governor Website Photos of Senator Speier visiting Fremont Gurdwara in March 2006: Panthic Weekly Senator Speier Fremont Gurdwara Visit
  8. WJKK, WJKF: I just came across this on BBC News . It is a montage of various photos of families whose lives were forever changed 20 years ago today... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pict...ries/html/1.stm -Gurfateh
  9. WJKK, WJKF: THE BROADCAST JUST WENT DOWN!!!! :wub: 1:21PM PST 10/23/04
  10. WJKK, WJKF: FYI, Bhai Manpreet Singh is due up sometime soon....this just keeps gettin' better and better! :wub: )))) Anyone know if Dullah or any other North American/UK Keertanis are there (other than Apardeep Singh)? Keep it up guys, this is amazing! -Gurfateh
  11. WJKK, WJKF: You can find this book online by going to Bookfinder.com website. I did a search and it yielded the following results, which you should be able to view directly here: http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st...6026688_1:10:29 If that doesn't work, just go to http://www.bookfinder.com and enter the title of the book. There are several reputable book dealers online who have this book in stock both new and used. Used prices start around $13.49 USD, New for $33.25 USD. Good luck! -Gurfateh
  12. WJKK, WJKF: FYI, if you live and go to school in California, you are allowed to wear your kirpan provided it doesn't exceed a certain length and is securly strapped into your gatra. The case that established this is: Gurdev Kaur Cheema v. Harold Thompson, 67 F. 3d 883 (9th Cir. 1995) Also, the Sikh Coalition has a wealth of information about what your rights are when it comes to wearing your kirpan in the school and workplace. If you guys ever run into a problem, please be sure to contact them. Go here for more info: http://www.sikhcoalition.org/InfoKirpan.asp -Gurfateh
  13. WJKK, WJKF: Am I the only one here who sees an inherent contradiction here... AKJ UK is holding a program at a Gurdwara that associates itself with a particular caste? Huh?!!! Am I missing something here people? :T: -Gurfateh
  14. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: Lest we forget sadh sangat ji, that Dr. Singh is a member of the Congress Party, the same Congress Party which was at the helm during the '84 genocide campaign against the Sikhs. Also, keep in mind that Zail Singh, a supposed "Sikh" and President of India at the time, stood by and did little to stop the atrocities, so you'll have to forgive me if I pass on the sweets for now. Instead, I will take a wait and see approach on this one....should he actually become the next PM, it'll be intersting to see how he handles the issue of those Congress Party officials who have yet to be brought to justice for their crimes against humanities against the Sikhs during Bluestar and in its aftermath... -Gurfateh
  15. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: I've gone ahead and updated SMART as to how they can go about viewing the clip in question. It shouldn't be long before I hear back from either through e-mail, or possibly direct on this message board.... A big shout out to "gsingh" and "pheena" for making the clip available. :wub: As always, I'll continue to keep you guys posted. -Gurfateh
  16. WJKK, WJKF: I got an e-mail back from SMART today. They are gonna look into it, but asked if I could locate a transcript and/or video of the skit in question.... Does someone have this saved to their hard drive, and if so, do you have a way of uploading it somewhere so that their research team could analyze it? Also, a transcript would be helpful too. Hope to hear back from someone soon. Thanks! -Gurfateh
  17. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: I happened to be up late last night watching NBC's broadcast of Saturday Night Live, and was upset to hear SNL actor Jimmy Fallon make some disparaging remarks about Sikhs during a skit that he did with the Olsen twins within the first half-hour of the show.... I cannot remember what he said exactly, but to the best of my recollection, it unfolded as follows: He was playing the role of a radio DJ and during the skit, he also took on the role of several different characters, using different voices to distinguish between them. One of the voices he used was done imitating a fictitious Indian named "Sanjey" or "Sanjay." A dialogue ensues in which another character voiced by Jimmy Fallon says something to (paraphrasing here) "Hey Sanjay….you damn Arab…" "I’m not an Arab, I’m a Sikh" "Then why are you wearing that towel on your head?" Now, I'm just curious as to whether anyone here happened to catch last night's show (broadcast in the USA and Canada only I believe) and if you can confirm whether what I heard was correct? FYI, I sent off a quick e-mail to SMART a few minutes ago about this, as I think at the very least, it is worth looking into. I've also made them aware of the fact that I was going to start a thread on this forum to see if other Sikhs out there happened to see the broadcast and/or taped it. I welcome your thoughts and comments on the matter. Likewise, I will try to keep you guys posted if I learn anything more. -Gurfateh
  18. WJKK, WJKF: Regardless of whether the SNYF post is legit or not, it should be noted that in most jurisdictions in the United States, having intimate relations with a person under the age of 18 is considered statutory rape. Prosecutors have the authority to press charges against the adult (18+) in this type of situation. This is true even if the underage person consented. So the guy here most likely would face jail time if there is evidence to show that he did in fact engage in such relations (i.e. if DNA match proves he is the father, that's pretty much all they need). Now, whether a District Attorney would actually prosecute is another story. It all depends on the circumstances in each case. -Gurfateh
  19. WJKK, WJKF: Here is an editorial I found posted over at the Sikh News Network website on this topic.... "NORTH OF 49" GONE SOUTH Palermo, New York, USA -- “North of 49” is a documentary about a fire that burned down a temple called Gobind Sadan in upstate New York. The incident was prosecuted as a hate crime which took place a few weeks after 9/11. But the film is awful, to say the least. It is amateurish, boring, incomprehensible and, worst of all, it falsely claims the temple to be a Sikh place of worship. The story takes place in a small town just south of the Canadian border where the locals are mostly farmers and hunters. Ralph Singh and his wife bought a large farm from a widow at the request of a man they refer to as “Babaji.” Babaji turns out to be a “holy man” from India whom they and the other worshipers follow. The land contained two buildings: “One to house the holy book, which appears to be the Guru Granth Sahib, although the name was never mentioned; the second to house the eternal flame.” What is that about? It seems that although the temple had been there since the mid 80’s, the followers of Gobind Sadan did not mingle with the locals and were looked upon as outsiders. After 9/11, four teenagers burned down the building housing their holy book. Three of them are serving time in state prison. The fourth was an expecting mother; the father was one of the arsonists. She has since had a baby boy. The film relies on TV news clips and interviews with some of the locals, including the pregnant teenager who serves periodic time at the local jail. It was disturbing to see the mom-to-be smoking cigarettes throughout the film. The most int eresting part of the documentary comes when the film crew makes a trip to India with Ralph Singh. Inside a building located near Delhi, the viewers see a row people reading from holy books and doing choar. They also do choar to a statue of Christ, to a lit menorah, to statues of Hindu gods and more. The visitors are shown meeting with “Babaji” and apologizing for the fire. “Babaji” shown is sitting in a chair while his adoring followers do arti to him and doing pangra to some keertan-like music. It was both entertaining and nauseating at the same time. This is the kind of film fit for people who slow down to see the car wreck at the side of the road. Filmmakers Richard L. Breyer and David Coryell are professionals, but it seems that they did not do any basic research into Sikhism. Perhaps they would have discovered some discrepancies between practices at Gobind Sadan and a Sikh place of worship. Instead, they let Ralph Singh define Sikhism for them. Interestingly, we do not remember Ralph Singh call himself a Sikh, although he let the narrator describe Gobind Sadan as such. Perhaps he and the Babaji followers should more accurately call themselves Gobind Sadanists. The documentary has been shown in some universities and recently aired on cable TV’s “Hallmark” channel. We don’t expect, we hope, it will get much more coverage than that. The tragic outcome of this film is that the public gets a false idea of what Sikhi is about. Gobind Sadan people follow many faiths and rituals. They break many tenets of Sikhism, namely that the Guru Granth Sahib is the only Guru and not to perform rituals. Although we believe that people have a right to follow any religion they choose and that all hate crimes are wrong, we do take offense to Ralph Singh and Gobind Sadan allowing the documentary to refer to themselves as Sikhs. http://www.sikhnn.com -Gurfateh
  20. WJKK, WJKF: I was unable to watch the documentary on Sunday morning, but I did get a chance to record it. I just gone done watchin' it and thought I'd post some of my thoughts... There were a couple of positive aspects that came across. First and foremost, it is worth noting that during the fire, everything was nearly destroyed. However, when they went inside to inspect the damage, the Guru Granth Sahib and the palkai were left in their original condition...no damage whatsoever. Also, there was interview with the parents of one of the firefighters who helped battle the blaze. They admitted that their son was sort of a "redneck," but as he was fightin' the fire, he went inside and as he did so, he stopped in his tracks without any explanation whatsoever. He just sorta froze, and even now he can't explain it, but he told his parents that something, or someone, told him not to go any further. It was later revealed that had he gone any further, he would have almost certainly fallen through the floor and been severely injured or killed. He is not sure what it was, perhaps a voice, but he is unsure where it came from. These two aspects coupled with the fact that there is a larger theme here of forgiveness and love is certainly admirable. However, I would be remiss if I failed to point out some of the more disturbing parts. As was alluded to earlier, I concur that it is not fair to say that these guys represent Sikhi. They can best be described as a cult and I would put them in the same category as some of the other weird factions out there that try to pass themselves off as Sikhs (radhoswamis, nirankaris, etc.). I was taken aback b y the imagery and the worship of various deities ridden with Hindu rituals. There was even a picture of a Jesus statue in their "gurdwara." They also had "sacred fires" and to top it all off, they filmed the birthday celebration of their leader in India where in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib, women were chanting while waving trays of burning candles in a circular fashion, while one man began doing Bhangra. I was tempted to turn it off at that point as I was on the verge of vomiting with disgust and anger, but I decided to sit through and view the documentary in its entirety. Whatever "good" was achieved in their local community, I fear that more damage may have been done by airing this documentary to a nation-wide audience who have been given a false view of what Sikhism is. It is sick pervision of our faith to the umpteenth degree… while the themes of love and forgiveness certainly rings true, the practices depicted are anything but. A commendable effort, but one that should have been done with greater input from Sikh organizations before being put together and put on the air. -Gurfateh P.S. the creators of this documentary have a website where you can learn more about their project. I believe there is also a section to submit feedback as well... http://www.northof49.net/
  21. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: I just came across this article on the web and thought I'd pass this along to those of you who might be interested. It will air on the Hallmark Channel on Sunday March 28, 2004 @ 9am PST/12pm EST in the United States. Check your local listings for more info. Sounds interesting.... Hallmark Channel to Air Documentary on Arson at Sikh center By WILLIAM KATES Associated Press Writer SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- The arson fire that destroyed a Sikh temple in upstate New York in the weeks following the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks was an act of hatred and misunderstanding. But the events instead released a force of love and forgiveness as a community united to rebuild, according to a documentary airing nationwide this weekend. "North of 49" is an hour-long documentary on the arson at Gobind Sadan USA, a Sikh center in Palermo. It airs Sunday on the Hallmark Channel as part of the documentary series, "The World of Faith & Values." "It is a powerful reminder of the depth of prejudice that continues to seethe beneath the surface of the democratic tolerance we claim for our nation," said Huston Smith, an award-winning author, producer and scholar on comparative religion best known for his book "The World's Religions." "Still, good triumphs over evil in this film, for it documents the most remarkable process of forgiveness I have come across since 9-11 put that virtue on hold," said Smith, a former Syracuse University professor who now teaches at Berkeley. Gobind Sadan - which means "God's house without walls" - is an interfaith community based on Sikh teachings tha t includes revering all religions. The religious center was located in a 100-year-old converted farmhouse in a rural part of Oswego County, 40 miles north of Syracuse and just north of state highway 49. Sikhs have been mistakenly associated with Arabs or Muslims because they wear turbans and have beards. Numerous hate crimes against Sikhs were reported following the Sept. 11 attacks. On Nov. 18, 2001, four local teenagers set fire to the center. The teens told authorities they believed the temple was named Go Bin Laden and burned it because they thought worshippers there supported the terrorist attacks blamed on Osama bin Laden. Two of the teens were sentenced to prison for committing a hate crime while the other two received probation and were ordered to spend 200 hours helping rebuild the center. The Sikhs and others who worshipped at Gobind Sadan suffered a tragic loss, but offered forgiveness to the teens at their sentencings. "By forgiving our enemies, we have the opportunity to create peace," said Ralph Singh, co-founder of the center. "Just a few people standing firm in the principles of their faith can start to galvanize the good in a community, and start a process toward peace." Producer Richard Breyer, a communications professor at Syracuse University, said the documentary follows the events forward in time beginning with "the clash of an exotic redneck culture and an exotic Indian culture" that led to the arson, and through the trials of the four teens, ending with the community coming together to begin building a new Sikh center. "It's a story about promise. About a community struggling to come together in an ongoing process," Breyer said. The new center is expected to open this summer, Singh said. "It is helping us realize the vision of working together to rebuild a broader community based on love and understanding," Singh said. As part of the community rebuilding, two groups of local youth, clergy and educators visited Gobind Sadan cente rs in India. The documentary has already been shown on public television in Syracuse and several regional markets, and in more than a dozen special screenings, including one at Harvard. The center also is encouraging schools, churches and civic groups to use the documentary to explore issues of diversity, tolerance and forgiveness, Singh said. The transforming power of the events became quite clear at the screening held in Palermo, Breyer said. One of the teens involved in the arson was Cassie Hudson, who was pregnant at the time of the crime. Hudson attended the screening with her new baby. The infant became restless during the documentary and both Breyer and Singh took turns holding the baby. "When the film was over and the lights came on, there was Ralph with the baby asleep in his arms, the baby of one of the arsonists. That's what the film is about, how love and forgiveness can heal a community," Breyer said. http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll...6/APN/403260869
  22. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: Boy, I sure didn't see this coming...no wait, actually I did! As I expected all along, the darling of the "he wears a turban so let's vote for him no matter how right wing his positions are" groups' candidate got his #@! kicked in the Illinois GOP Senate Primary tonight. With 99% of the precincts reporting, the good doctor from Illinois finished dead last in the Republican primary garnering a measly 0.8% of total votes cast. Perhaps now he will realize what I've been saying all along. Just because you are a good businessman doesn't necessarily mean you're suited for the political arena. Likewise, just because you wear a turban, doesn't mean much either. Issues are what matter the most coupled with experience. If Sikhs are to make any significant inroads in US politics, its has to start at the grassroots level, and not at the top. Just because you got the money, don't expect that you'll buy your way into office. Nice to see that he made the effort, but he has much to learn. Oh and while he's at it, he might wanna reevaluate what party he's with if he expects to gain majority support from the US Sikh community or anyone else for that matter… Better luck next time Dr. Kuthuria... -Gurfateh ********************* < br>U.S. Senate - GOP Updated: 1:30 a.m. 98% of precincts reporting xRyan 228,579 35.8% Oberweis 149,803 23.5% Rauschenberger 125,069 19.6% McKenna 94,669 14.8% Wright 16,892 2.6% Borling 13,022 2.0% Hill 5,527 0.9% Kathuria 4,941 0.8% Source: http://www.suntimes.com/elections/results/index.html
  23. WJKK, WJKF: Sorry if I started a duplicate thread...I didn't see that a separate thread had already been started.... -Gurfateh
  24. Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh: As many of you may have heard by now, two NJ Sikh teenagers reported that they were assaulted, robbed, and had their hair cut off by an unknown number of assailants earlier this week. Well as it turns out, these two "Sikhs" made up the story to cover up the fact that they cut off their own hair willingly and attempted to cover up their actions by fabricating the whole story. There are no words that I can say to express my deep shock and anger after hearing about this latest twist. I mean when I first heard about it, I felt so sorry for these guys. Now, we find out they were lying and really didn't want to be Sikhs no more....unbelievable. For more info regarding this story see the following article: The Associated Press Sikh turban theft story was fabricated, police say March 11, 2004 LODI, N.J. -- Two Sikh teenagers who told police they were attacked by five men who yanked off their turbans and cut off their hair apparently fabricated the story, police said. Lodi Police Chief Vincent J. Caruso said Wednesday that the pair — 18-year-old Simrandeep Singh and a 17-year-old — made a false bias claim to police on March 3 to conceal the fact that they had cut their own hair, in violation of their religion. Caruso said the two could face charges. As of Wednesday night, none had been filed. He said Lodi police continued to investigate after finding holes in the teens' original report, and that the teens eventual ly cooperated. Singh and the 17-year-old told police they were at a bus stop when a group of men approached them and asked to borrow money. The groups got into a pushing match, and the groups wound up in Memorial Park, Capt. Vincent Quatrone has said. There, the teens told police they were kicked and punched and robbed of about $40. One man was then reported to have removed the teens' turbans, pulled out a pair of scissors and cut 3 to 4 feet of hair from the victims as they pleaded with him to stop. Sikhs are forbidden by their religion to cut their hair, believing it is a gift from God. http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/nyc-nj...nhome-headlines
  25. WJKK, WJKF: I just wanted to update you guys and let you know that I received a response from the SNYF moderators today regarding the reply I gave to the critic of the WICS website. Basically, "HSD" agreed with everything that I said above, but he also added that I was wrong in my assertion that Sach Khand was unique to Sikhi. He said everyone can go there. He did not elaborate any further. I posted this question on akj.org to see what everyone's thoughts were (should be up shortly), but if you guys want to chime in here, please feel free to do so. -Gurfateh
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