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  1. Anyone know where I can find historical chronicles on puraatan sikhs? Anything that the British or any other outsiders have written on puraatan sikhs, would be nice to read.
  2. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫ਼ਤਹਿ a bit of a background on me: i grew up without any sangat in a remote town and would long for santa di sangat. i am now married and moved to a town where there is a lot of sikh sangat and daily programs at the gurdwara. sant baba joginder singh ji budha dal wale is coming to our town this week and i have the chaa (excitement) to take some offerings for them like back in the day when sants or guru sahibs used to visit remote towns and sangat would bring stuff, i'm also really happy that great mahapursh are coming and really want to take them something. I am wondering what can i take in this day and age that is appropriate ? Just something small.. I can't think of anything that baba ji do not have.. not even sure if they will accept it, but if not, i am hoping guru sahib will accept it nevertheless. please let me know if anyone has any idea! forgive me for my mistakes ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫ਼ਤਹਿ
  3. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh sangat ji, With great effort, we have finished writing an account of the daily life and lifestyle of Humble Sevaks at the Guru's Dharamshalas 500-300 years ago. Many people assume that it must have been like how their grandparents lived in rural Punjab, or like it is at a Nihang Dera, but this is not the case. It was different to contemporary Punjabi/North Indian culture. Everything was completely different: the way of life, the Soch, sanskar and material culture. People lived communally and self-sufficiently. Everything had a sacred function. The food and medicine was different. The ceremonies and rites were different. Even the whole geography was different- thick jungles with tigers and elephants. Today these Dharamshalas, jungles and wildlife sadly no longer exist and most of the puratan lifestyle has gone. As some of you may agree, Dharamshala life during the Guru's period, was an Akaal Jeevan- and is how we are meant to be living today also, so it is of double importance for us to know and understand our true history. SEVA REQUEST: To make the words come alive so that people can relate, we are looking for a spiritually minded artist to make a few colour paintings of what is described. It is only 5-7 pages but has several potential scenes that could be depicted. There are no sakhis at this time- it is a plain description of how things were, how people thought, lived, interacted, behaved, dressed, ate, prayed etc. It would be helpful if the artist is familiar with pre-industrial Indigenous culture. The Guru Matas nurtured Dharamshalay so it would be fitting for an Amritdhari bibi to take up this seva, but anyone is welcome to apply. The entire project is non-profit and not linked to any Jatha. It will be freely published online for all, with due credit to the artists if they want it. Please send me a private message for more details. Bhai Preetam Singh Canada
  4. Sikhi is one of the fastest growing religions with 125,000 (2016) adherents in Australia, having grown from 12,000 in 1996, 17,000 in 2001 and 26,500 in 2006. Punjabi is the 13th most common language in Australia. 81% of Punjabi speakers are Sikhs, 13.3% are Hindus and 1.4% are Muslims. (Circa 1908. Panjabi Sikh immigrants at Adelaide port, Australia) 1830s–1901 Sikh men have a longer history in Australia as the women arrived much later. The earliest Sikhs arrived in Australia from Panjab province in the late 1830s. There was a demand for manual labour due to slowing convict transportation. Since many Sikhs came from agrarian backgrounds, they worked on farms or as shepherds. In the 1860’s, cameleers (called the Ghans) were brought to Australia to explore & settle the vast arid lands. A minority of the Ghans were made up of Sikhs. They set up camel-breeding stations and rest house outposts (caravanserai) throughout inland Australia. (from a film on Ghans with an Aboriginal-Australian man) Entrepreneurial migrants Towards the end of the 19th century, Indian Hawkers (many were Sikh) were brought due to Australia’s widespread population. Young men first travelled on foot and later purchased horses and carts. Hawkers required licenses which mostly became restricted to British subjects in the 1890s thus denying Afghans, Assyrians and Chinese from renewing their license, giving Sikhs a monopoly on hawking. This was held till the 1930s until European migrants began to take over the trade. (Sikh hawker in Victoria) White Australia policy From federation in 1901 until the 1973 immigration of non-whites, including Sikhs, into Australia was restricted due to the enactment of the White Australia policy. It also made it impossible for Sikhs who already lived in the country from returning to Panjab as they would be barred re-entry. To counter the threat of Japan’s expansion and the need for soldiers, Indian Australians were given rights greater than that of other Asians. Through a series of steps between 1925 and 1929, Indians in Australia were allowed limited property rights, were given the right to vote and allowed a pension. Early pioneers in the 1930s began to bring their sons of working age to Australia. Due to shortage of white population due to war, Sikhs were allowed work in agricultural sectors. One of the well-known sectors was the Banana industry in Woolgoolga, later forming a Sikh community which continues to exist today. 1950s and 60s Sikhs started working hard to purchase their own banana farms. With steady income, they brought their wives. In 1961, there were 6 Sikh women in Woolgoolga, creating Sikh households and Sikh children born in Australia. In 1968 the First Australian Gurdwara was established in Woolgoolga. (Australia's first Gurdwara in 1968) Post White Australia policy - 1973- present Sikh migration increased dramatically after the Racial Discrimination Act. Many Sikhs also came from Malaysia, Singapore, Fiji, Kenya, Uganda and the UK to settle in Australia. New immigrants are mainly based around major cities . Melbourne is now home to the largest Sikh population. Since 2000, there has been a great increase in the number of Sikh students settling in Australia. 39% Sikhs live in Greater Melbourne, 21% in Greater Sydney and 10% in Greater Brisbane. Some Gurdwaras
  5. What are the best books about Sikh History you have read?
  6. This thread can be used to share gurpurabs, important dates, etc. from our ithihaas
  7. Waheguru ji, this might be my first question on here, but I always feel weird skipping 85% of Anand Sahib during rehraas. Is it okay to include those 34 pauris when I do rehraas? (I have done this a few times before). I am aware that several sampardayi include more and more dasam bani, but chhota anand sahib is something every dal and sampardayi agrees on (as far as this agianee is aware of) so I am not sure whether it is okay for me to bring this up or do on a personal basis either.
  8. ... while actual Islamic teachings and scriptures (The Sunnah, the Quran and the Hadiths) make no attempt to conceal the frankly questionable feats, bachans, and moments of his life? Rampant sexual degeneracy, idolatry, hypocritical religious edicts and conduct, and unexplainably savage and bloodthirsty barbarism across the board. Yet, Sikh sants, gianis, and parcharaks speak so effusively and warmly of "Mohammed Sahib" and his various companions and successors. These Sikh personalities can barely conceal their admiration for the Islamic prophet and his achievements. What's going on?
  9. This looks interesting. Marina Wheeler is Boris Johnson's first wife who has four kids with him. Her mother was from a Sikh background by the looks of it. According to this DM article, she looks like she wants to discover her 'lost heritage'. This is pertinent to me because recently I've been spending time with younger mixed race relatives, and some of the older ones now seem to resent being encouraged to be indifferent to the Sikh side of their heritage when growing up. Ms Wheeler was able to speak to her mother, Dip Singh, about her experiences in India, before she died of bowel cancer in February. When her mother was 14, they were forced to flee their side of the Punjab after it ended up on the side of Pakistan. Her family left their comfortable life and moved to Delhi, though Ms Wheeler says she has no recollection of ever meeting her grandfather. She told GMB: 'I was brought up very British - I don't know any Indian languages - and my mother made this conscious decision not to teach us any. 'It was this complete blank canvas, this whole side of my heritage, and I wanted to discover that. Speaking to Radio 4 about her mother, Ms Wheeler said: 'On one level it is simply that she came from a generation who didn't talk about their lives. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8941359/Boris-Johnsons-ex-wife-Marina-Wheeler-says-couple-years-traumatic.html#comments
  10. I want to start a thread about 84 and the movement afterwards so anyone can come here and learn about it more.There isn't enough about it in one place so hopefully with guru sahib's grace this thread will serve to become a useful resource to learn about 84 .It's up to us the sangat to contribute and keep this thread going. It is all our responsibility to honour our shaheeds and to remember them and to keep their legacy ever new and alive to inspire our future generations. No one else can be blamed if our new generations aren't aware of their own heritage. It is all our fault for never teaching them and giving them resources to learn about it themselves. To kick it off here is a speech of jaswant singh khalra I came across a few days ago. You can feel in his speech that genuine pain in his heart, from having seen with his own eyes the genocide of our own people. Here is a channel I came across setup as a tribute to 84 for maybe more rare video footage I'd guess not everyone on here has seen. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCmZvPBEoVmtvLrv07TNYtw/videos also here is an interview of shaheed bhai amrik singh's son bhai tarlochan singh ji, This is the playlist from basics of sikhi about 84. To access the playlist click on the top right corner of the video and you can watch any from that playlist. This playlist contains history and testimonies of people who had been there and shares their experiences.
  11. Randomly stumbled across this account today. Similar to the Suraj Podcast, this brother is basically making a series for Panth Parkash. Definitely check it out.
  12. I remember hearing in a katha once that sant isher Singh ji was from a royal family? Maybe I'm confused? Anyone know anything about sant ji? Anyone have any inspirational saakhis?
  13. https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/rare-books-on-sikhism-punjab-emerge-in-london-sale/story-It445bHhVoPN2bUC7Qi2dM.html June 24 2020 A London-based rare books dealer on Wednesday launched a collection of rare books, original manuscripts and artwork on India that includes several first editions of work on Sikhs, Sikhism and Punjab dating from early eighteenth century. The 40-item collection from dealer Peter Harrington includes the first translation of the Adi Granth into English and several travel narratives set in the kingdom of Ranjit Singh, and military handbooks dedicated to Sikh customs – hailed in them as ‘the bravest and steadiest of soldiers’. Others offering glimpses of life in India under British rule include a book by Captain Lakshmi, who was appointed by Subhash Chandra Bose as commander of the Rani of Jhansi Regiment in the Indian national Army, and three elusive monographs on the ruling families of Punjab, written or inspired by Lepel H. Griffin, a colourful official in nineteenth century British India. Glen Mitchell, senior book specialist at Europe’s largest anquarian book dealer, said: “We have seen an increased interest in the last 20 years from collectors of works from the Indian sub-continent, and the demand for 19th and early 20th century British accounts of this fascinating period in colonial history continues to attract a core group of collectors based both in the region and diaspora in the UK and beyond.” Topics that remain enduringly collectable include those focused on military exploits, colonial exploration, seminal religious texts, ethnographical, geographical, botanical and zoological accounts, and of course administrative, historical and political works,” he added. Highlights of the collection include an eyewitness account of Ranjit Singh’s kingdom written by Shahamat Ali, the expedition leader’s Indian-born munshi and inscribed by him to the earl of Shaftesbury; The Life of Robert Lord Clive, Baron Plassey by Charles Caraccioli – the first biography of Clive, considered something of a character assassination by his enemies within the East India Company; and I.N.A. Defence. Subject People’s Right to Fight for Freedom – two contemporary publications of the address delivered by J. Bhulabhai Desai in defence of members of the INA on trial for treason. Pom Harrington, owner of Peter Harrington, said: “While we have curated selections on Asia in the past, this is our first dedicated catalogue on works from India”. The wealth of rich illustrations, lithographs, maps and coloured plates really lent themselves to creating an interactive and immersive digital-only catalogue that allows our clients to scroll through details and additional images of these fine works. Source Hindustan times
  14. I tie a taksali dumala, but i am wondering what is the history behind it. Apparently the singhs in guru jis time used to wear nihang dumala and used used to wear chakars on them. When was the taksali dumala style made? who made it? is there a reason why taksalis wear this dumala?
  15. I wanted to understand the relationship and history of these 2 Sikh Contemporaries. I have heard of various stories that they didnt get along issues such as the creation of Bandai Khalsa and that a leaf was dropped in the sarovar of Harmander Sahib that would decide who the real Guru of the Sikhs was... is that true? Heard about Baba Deep Singh Ji abandoning Baba Banda Singh Bahadur as the Mughals were closing in... But then again I heard they never joined forces as Baba Deep Singh Ji didnt agree with the way Baba Banda Singh Bahadur conquered Mughal areas. Not sure what is true. Is there any fact based historical accounts of what happened?
  16. So i came across this documentary type video on youtube quite interesting information I hadn't know before.
  17. Been reading Anita Anand's book on Sophia, who was Maharajah Ranjit Singh's granddaughter. Here's an interesting excerpt regarding the treatment of lascars, who were essentially hired sailors, many of whom came from Panjab. It's interesting to note how M. Duleep Singh, who is commonly characterised as some hedonistic fool in white literature, tried to help these very ill-treated people (before the anglo establishment attacked him), and how his daughter subsequently did so much for these people too:
  18. Wjkk Wjkf! What is the historical source on which the Panja Sahib sakhi is based? Is there any historical sakhi or is it only a legend of oral tradition? I even read somewhere that it is the story of a Buddhist monk that people somehow confused. Should I believe the sakhi of Guru Nanak Sahib ji stopping the boulder thrown by Wali Qandhari with their hand? I could not find a source. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks! Wjkk Wjkf!
  19. Hi Just a list of ways that Hindus have shown active hatred towards Sikhs in recent history (with proof). The point of this thread is not to promote hatred of Hindus. Hatred is against religious all tenets (God is Nirvair, so sikhs should strive to be too), and also obviously not all Hindus are bad/hate Sikhs. A lot of Hindus have spoke up for Sikhs, both in the past and now, even at risk to themselves and their careers. Also, alot of Hindus have interest in Sikhi and Gurbani and go to Gurdwara, I would not like those Hindus to feel bad or put off at all. In fact they may also find this enlightening. 1. Santa Banta / Sardarji Jokes throughout the 80s, 90s and early 2000 it was common for hindu media and popular culture to promote vicious 'jokes' trying to ridicule Singhs and always frame them as stupid. the whole tenor of these jokes was nasty. i wish some one would compile them to show the world what kind of 'humour' was being promoted. the whole aim was to belittle sikhs and insult them in the public imagination. this compares to how Nazis targeted Jews in their media. 3. Bollywood depiction of Sikhs again, I wish someone would compile the blatant nastiness shown against sikhs in cinema from 80s up until present, and put it on youtube to show the real nature of 'bollywood'. I have been quite disgusted by the amount of times my aunt has been watching some bollywood film and i have randomly sat down and seen some sort of ridicule or put down of sikhs (always with a turbaned character to make it clear). 4. Sunny Leone- Bollywood had to go all the way to Canada to get Sunny Leone. Why? Aren't there Hindu girls in India who work as pornstars? Of course there are, but Hindu audiences don't want to see that... 5. Dharendra and Dara Singh had to convert to Hinduism (Arya Samaj) in order to have film careers. (though not sure why Dara kept 'Singh' in his name?) 6. Hindi Dramas- in Hindi tv dramas Hindu woman are always depicted as ideal wives, doing religious ceremonies and running around after their Hindu husbands. Where as Sikh women are shown as devious, running around with their 'bf' behind their parents backs etc. again, why the double standard? 7. Subramanium Swami- theres footage on Youtube some where of him addressing some Hindus in USA I think, where he says Manmohan Singh "was only good at taking orders" and the audience start laughing exaggeratedly and hysterically (diss at Manmohan SIngh). He also admits working with some other 'Singh' in his speech but lowers the tone when he mentions his name. basically trying to take credit for Singhs work. i can't find this anymore i suspect he had it taken down because it was at a small function in USA (he didn't want anyone to see it). 8. Amrita Pritam vs Kamala Das Indian media loves to hype up Amrita Pritam. Pritam got famous for one (!) poem. After she won a literary prize (which gave her money) she dumped her husband and started running after the most famous male poet at the time (a muslim). he slept with her once then dumped her without telling her and got a hindu girlfriend instead. she spent the rest of her life running after him. now is a man acted like this after a woman people would say he was a loser and a creep, but Pritam is some how praised as some romance figure and great poet (for one poem?) meanwhile, there was Hindu lady poet - Kamala Das, at the same time. Das was very famous for a number of books (not just one poem). After her husband died, she fell in love with a muslimsand converted to Islam. And guess what? She was blacklisted. No one even bothers to mention her name anymore. Again, double standard? 9. Master Madan- child prodigy at music. Natural gift for singing. was murdered by poising at age of 15. funny, no one ever tied to poison any hindu or muslim singers? 10. Ishmeet Singh- winner of Indias first national TV singing competition. Found drowned in a swimming pool with signs of violence of his body (basically murdered) whilst on tour with other Hindu singers and crew. Again, nothing like this has happened to any Hindu winners? Btw, Ishmeet couldn't swim, so would not have gone into the pool by his own accord. 11. Joyce Pettigrew- anthropologist working in India in the 80s. When she suggested the situation with the Sikhs would be suitable for study, she was beaten and raped. 12. Chandigarh- Panjab has to 'share' Chandigarh with Haryana. No other state in India has to do this. guys add more points if you think of any.
  20. I have full faith in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as a Guru because Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave “Gaddi” to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But, this belief is based upon the “Saakhi’s” stories, I heard from preachers and modern historians. They say Guru ji gave gaddi at Nanded (Hazur Sahib) in 1708. The point is where is ir written? In which authentic contemporary or old histoey books? Today by chance I came across the Punjabi and English Translation of “Gur Sobha” book by Senapati, a contemporary poet & historian in the court of Guru Gobind Singh Ji which suggests otherwise. I suggest everybody to read this book in Punjabi and English with translation which ever is convenient to you. Please read these pages particularly because they are eye opener. Especially Page no. 320, 21,22, 23. Here is the link for you to read and download book https://www.sikhinstitute.org/sri_gursobha.pdf On these pages it is very clear that Guru Ji did not give “Gaddi” to anyone; either to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji or Khalsa panth. I think we all should strive hard to know the truth about succession story from old history books like Gur Partap Suraj, Gur Bilas etc. and not believe in concocted stories by our preachers and so called modern historians.
  21. What are the reliable Books to read about Akaali Phoola Singh ? Are there any books written Solely on Akaali Phoola SIngh ?
  22. I found a really cool account of Timur relating how he conquered india. He was brutal.but he lists in detail every city he invaded and how many people he killed. But one can see how islam motivated him and his hatred for idolators: https://www.ibiblio.org/britishraj/Jackson5/chapter09.html Heres an excerpt from his infamous sack of delhi: For these various reasons a great number of fierce Turkish troops were in the city. When the soldiers proceeded to apprehend the Hindus and infidels who had fled to Delhi, many of them drew their swords and offered resistance. The flames of strife thus lighted spread through the entire city from Jahan-panah and Siri to Old Delhi, consuming all they reached. The savage Turks fell to killing and plundering, while the Hindus set fire to their houses with their own hands, burned their wives and children in them, and rushed into the fight and were killed. The Hindus and infidels of the city showed much alacrity and boldness in fighting. The amirs who were in charge of the gates prevented any more soldiers from entering Delhi, but the
  23. How often do you hear European/American history being openly uncovered like this?
  24. is there any book that compiles the biographies and sakhis and experiences of modern day shaheed singhs when looking back from the 70's onwards?I think it's important we keep up with this itihaas.It's our history,a support for the panth.
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