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  1. http://books.google....0CC0Q6AEwAADead Silence: The Legacy of Human Rights Abuses in Punjab is a report that was prepared by Physicians for Human Rights (U.S.) and was published by Human Rights Watch in 1994. "This report documents incidents of torture, extrajudicial executions and disappearances which took place mostly in the first nine months of 1992, at the height of the government crackdown." The report looks at the human rights violations that were attributed to the government and militants. There is a section called "Violations of Humanitarian Law By Militants" which covers all the different incidents of violence that were associated with militants. I, like many of you, am aware that "Black Cats" and police sponsored armed groups such as "Alam Sena" were responsible for many acts of violence that were blamed on militant Sikhs. However, this report does not hold "black cats" or police backed armed groups responsible for any such act. The report suggests that all acts of violence attributed to militants was indeed done by militants, and was not a result of government groups acting to discredit and defame, the Khalistan movement. The two references to "Black Cats" come on Page 23 and Page 51. "Black Cats" are described as "undercover agents" that "identify, kidnap and kill suspected militants" who have been employed by the Punjab police. They are not stated to be responsible for acts of violence conducted to defame the Khalistan movement anywhere in the report. The report gives many dated incidents where violence was perpetrated by militants. On page 89 the report states that "In June 1991, militants opened fire on two passenger trains in Punjab killing at least one hundred and ten civilians." We need as a collective community need to analyze the different incidents of violence, research to uncover additional information, and conclude whether these acts were conducted by militants or black cats. Greater clarity to what actually happened and who was responsible for what would be beneficial to the Sikh peoples' continuing struggle. By being able to highlight and prove additional incidents of violence that the Punjab government was responsible for the Sikh people would alleviate wrongful blame put onto Sikh militants. All incidents of violence against innocent people conducted by Sikhs should be wholeheartedly condemned. I implore those of you who are well versed and educated to analyze this report, check and confirm the different events, bring forward new information, and come to a conclusion about what really happened in Punjab.
  2. Sadh Sangat Jeo, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, An online petition has been created calling for the UK Government to reckognise the aftermath of indira gandhi's assisination as genocide of the Sikhs. The Australian government has highlighted this issue, and we need to get the ball rolling in the UK too. Please Please Please lets try and get 100,000 signatures so that this issue can be given a chance to be debated in Parliament. Theres nothing we cant achieve if we act as one nation under one nishan! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41156 Anti-Sikh violence in November 1984 in India should be classed as Genocide Responsible department: Foreign and Commonwealth Office We the signatories of this E-Petrition urge the UK government to the anti-sikh violence committed in India in November 1984, following the death of Indra Ghandhi and classify it as an act of genocide. There is more than enough evidence from Sikh groups, Human rights groups and eye witnesses to show the violence was carefully orchestrated and police, congress members and high ranking officials were not only complicit in the violence but provided support for those carrying out murder, looting and rape. To this day Sikhs (who have a long and proud connection with the UK) have had no real closure. So now we urge as in Australia that this issue be debated and then the acts of November 1984 be classified as Genocide. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41156
  3. Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh. I have a plea to make to anyone reading this, this plea is in regards to a Singh living in a foreign country for more than a decade. Singh is tomorrow going to talk with a politician regarding political asylum in his chosen nation. Singh needs official documents regarding what India is doing to Sikhs, that is human rights violation etc. It will be greatly appreciated if reports, and websites which can help Singh prove his point can be provided before 3,0, clock tomorrow. Three o clock New Zealand time. Thank u ji.
  4. Well I have seen alot of guys believing absolute myths about Pakistan... So , as probably the only person on this forum with Pakistani Muslim background , I would like to say few things... First thing Sikhs should understand is this ... Pakistan is the most "pro-Sikh" state in whole South Asia .... Sikhs in Pakistan have full rights..they work as doctors , policemen , engineers , pharmacists , technicians , politicians , singers , and even as Army officers ! The Islamic Republic of Pakistan treats Sikhs with outmost respect... Comparison between India and Pakistan when it comes to Sikhs : There are few things I'd like to point-out... Read and decide it for yourself...... 1-Pakistan recognize "Sikhism" as completely separate , independent , and unique religion...While India doesn't even recognize Sikhism. Sikhism is a mere 'branch of Hinduism' under Indian constitution... 2- In Pakistan , Sikhs have their own separate "marriage act" for decades now and they marry as "Sikh" on 'Sikh marriage forum' ...Whereas in India..Indian state didn't give Sikhs any marriage act..Sikhs married , throughout Indian history , on "Hindu marriage forums" ... 3- Pakistani state NEVER persecuted Sikhs or even touched their holy sites... Do I even need to mention what Indian state did in 1984? All these things are the reasons due to which Pakistani Sikhs consider themselves lucky that they left in Pakistani Punjab and didn't go to Indian Punjab... Listen it from the mouth of Sikhs themselves... See how Pakistani state care for its Sikh citizens..When terrorists killed two Sikhs (Others were saved by Pakistan Army!) ... Pakistan's deputy attorney general cleaned shoes of Sikhs in Amritsar , Golden Temple , Pakistan Gurdwaras etc ... "Pakistan's deputy attorney-general is to clean the shoes of thousands of devotees at India's Golden Temple in Amritsar in 'penance' for the beheading of a Sikh in Peshawar two years ago. After spending several hours polishing the shoes of worshippers at Gurdwara Sisganj in New Delhi on Monday, where he was part of a Pakistan Supreme Court Bar Association delegation, Muhammad Khurshid Khan left for Amritsar, home of the Golden Temple and the centre of the Sikh religion, to clean thousands more." http://www.telegraph...den-Temple.html Now compare that treatment with Indian state's treatment of Sikhs? In the light of all this... I request members to give your insight....What do you think about Pakistan? What do you think about Pakistani Punjab and Punjabi people residing in Pakistan? Why you dislike Pakistan? Why you like Pakistan? Lets have a friendly discussion here...May be we can learn alot from eachother and remove our misconceptions about eachother...Afterall , we are the sons of same land...same Punjab!
  5. UK: Sikhs are demanding the amendment of the Article 25 of the Indian Constitution as it currently states "reference to Hindus shall be construed as including a reference to persons professing the Sikh, Jaina or Buddhist religion, and the reference to Hindu religious institutions shall be construed accordingly" For some time now, the Sikh community have been demanding the change of this article and to be recognised as a separate practicing religion. The status of Sikhs being recognised as a separate religion has been supported by National Commission to Review the Working of the Constitution headed by the former Chief Justice of India, Justice M.N Venkatachaliah. International Panthic Dal (I.P.D) had launched a world-wide campaign in early 2012, which includes nationally in India, to build awareness in the community to support the change of the article. I.P.D, through its footprint in Punjab, will be working with various organisations, MP's and MLA's in gaining their support to the amendment. As an organisation we believe working through the system of democracy is a way of gaining results. Good, our brothers/sisters of Jainism and Buddhism should also get their unique identity recognition.
  6. I understand there is another Gurdwara which caught fire in Punjab. Guru Granth Sahib Ji were caught up in the fire. Why do these short circutis keep happening? Should someone not be responsible for this? Why don't Punjabis take responsibility for the security of a Gurdwara?
  7. IT IS TIME TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO ACHIEVE A FREE PUNJAB! THIS REQUIRES ACTIVISM IN THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA AND POLITICAL FORUM. HOWEVER, THAT WILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO ACHIEVE JUSTICE OR FREEDOM. WE NEED TO HURT INDIA ECONOMICALLY BY BOYCOTTING AS MANY HINDU PRODUCTS STARTING WITH THE BOLLYWOOD CRAP THAT SO MANY OF YOU "SOLDOUT PUNJABIS" ADORE SO MUCH! WE CAN ALSO PUT PRESSURES ON HINDUS LIVING AMONGST US OUTSIDE OF INDIA (LET'S MAKE LIFE HELL FOR THEM. WE NEED TO STOCKPILE ARMS AND TEACH GATKA/COMBAT TO OUR YOUNG. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY WE NEED TO GET OUR SIKH BROTHERS TO TURN THEIR BACKS ON INDIAN MILITARY. THIS MUST BE FOLLOWED BY REACHING OUT TO ALL ENEMIES OF INDIA INCLUDING MAOISTS, PAKISTANIS ETC (MY ENEMY'S ENEMY IS MY FRIEND). INQUALAAB IN PUNJAB.....LONG LIVE THE RESISTANCE.....RAAJ KAREGA KHALSA!
  8. The Wanted Human Rights Violations Programme (WHRVP) has been set up to build case files on suspected perpetrators and to use these to support in the campaign to realise justice for crimes against humanity, war crimes and mass genocide in India. If you have any details on the suspected perpetrators please contact info@panthicdal.com
  9. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. I would just like to ask about the borders of a future Sikh nation if it where to exist. Many people include the whole of Himachal Pradesh as well as Haryana and parts of Rajasthan. Some maps even include Delhi. For those of you that support the formation of Khalistan, would you just like the current Indian state of Punjab to secede from India or would you like these other areas as well, despite them having a majority Hindu population. Also, from both a Sikh and Punjabi nationalist point of view, why is their no agitation to include West Punjab i.e. Pakistani Punjab into the proposed new nation. Would you not like to include Nankana Sahib in the new nation, as well as cities like Lahore which have a lot of historical significance. There is no doubt that human rights abuses take place in India, but should there not also be action or protests against Pakistan and their treatment of minorities. Or do you remain silent over the issue because you need the support of the Pakistani government for any activity against India. Surely you should campaign for the inclusion of the Sikhs in Pakistan and West Punjab in to a future state of Khalistan, yet I only see you protesting against the Indian government and I always see a lot of hatred for India. I am not trying to stir up hatred toward any group. I am just curious to why certain areas of India where there is not a Sikh majority are included in your proposed state, whereas areas of Pakistan where Sikhs exist but are in minority are not.
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