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Guest posted a topic in GUPT | ANONYMOUSThe Nirmale are a very old sect that was apparently started when a few sikhs were sent to Kanshi to learn Sanskrit from Brahmins under Guru Gobind Singh Ji's instruction. As a result, these Sikhs came back full of knowledge about Sanskrit but had been influenced by Brahminism as well. Thus this group twisted sikhi with a Vedantic view and claimed things like Guru Nanak Dev ji was an avtar of Vishnu and stuff. This sect has also had very close relations to Damdami Taksal. In the past, Nirmale Mahants/sants have had Taksali sants as their students and thus I think it is reasonable to assume that the Nirmales had an influence on the teachings that the Taksal subsequently taught. When listening to some Taksali prachar, I've heard things like the 5 pyare were not random, they were devte/bhagats that reincarnated. So basically saying that instead of being normal everyday people who courageously and wholeheartedly chose to become a part of Sikhi and Sikh tradition, they were preplanning to stand up in the crowd on Vaisakhi since their birth. Things like this make me question this prachar and think maybe Nirmale have a hand in combining Gurmat with Brahmanism in these jathebandis. Anyone else agree/disagree?
Ashoka Chakra is a representation of Dhammachakra (a buddhist icon) . Ashoka Chakra is related to emperor Ashoka who was a violent king who lived more than 2000 years ago and conquered most of india from kashmir to far south and from bangladesh to afghanistan. He did cruel wars to achieve this . Not any empire in india except mughals have conquered so much territory. But Ashoka was a cruel man . He had a torture chamber called "Ashoka's hell" to torture saintly people , esp buddhist monks. However he later converted to buddhism and threw his sword near patliputra (modern day patna sahib) and gave up all violence. From then he became a saintly man and erected ashoka pillars with ashoka chakras and the "4-direction facing lions" on top of those pillars . These 4-lions are now icon of indian govt btw. So the question is if we claim India is a baahman vaad country, then why would they adopt Ashoka's buddhist logos like the 4-direction-4-lions and ashoka chakra. Shouldn't they have adopted something like swastika or om. One possible answer to this is Ambedkar's conversion to buddhism . He was also the original architect of Indian constitution . It is clear Ambedkar hated hinduism for its brahminism and oppression of his lower caste people and wanted some other -- preferably dharmic religion to convert to . Sikhi was on the table, but for some reason he and his millions of followers chose Buddhism and then burnt manusmriti (brahmin law book , akin to sharia) on the same day . Imagine .... just imagine ... if he would have chosen sikhi, khanda might have been at center of indian flag today . Not that I dream of sikhi dominion on indian land, but still its a point to think of .