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  1. What is the "Fifty" when it comes to turbans?
  2. I have always been curious about this. Maybe some of you on these forums can help me out. When you made the decision to starting wearing a dastar, who did you learn from? Did you learn from friends who were older? The granthis from the gurdwara? From relatives during a visit to India? I had it easy: my dad taught me when I was a kid. But I know most of you had fathers and grandfathers who didn't wear dastars. I must say, I really admire you guys. When I was growing up in America, it was extremely rare for a man to wear a dastar if his father didn't, but I have observed numerous examples of this in the UK. The resurgence of interest in Sikhi among a portion of the UK Sikh youth is one of the more positive stories of recent years.
  3. WJKK WJKF I currently wear a patka and need to learn how to tie a dumalla. I’m 16. I only have 3 weeks to learn (let me know if the type I want to wear will be too hard to learn in this time frame. I have no one to help irl only YouTube videos). Firstly, I have managed to finally get some dumalla cloth and have at the moment left it to soak overnight as I was told this is what you need to do as I had great difficulty trying to learn how to tie one without it washed. So I have 2 lengths of 6m long 0.5m wide cloth. Is this a good amount for the type I want? (Photo will be attached below). I then saw I fold it in half to tie a dumalla in videos. I’m also having difficulty tying a base. Either when I tie my joora it sticks up too much and will make me end up with a massive dastar (I want to blend in at the new school I’ll be going to so don’t want to look overly big, my old school had no sikhs). Or it’s really really loose (I’m doing the thing where I wrap my Kesh around in the cloth then twist it up. Is there any secret to this or better way? I am not amritari also, I heard this is a ‘nihang dumalla’, I’m just wondering as a non amritari Sikh I won’t offend anyone by wearing this type of dumalla will I? The reason I want this type is I heard this is the type some people wear at my school I will go to (I am unable to contact them for help however). So here’s the photo below, for this type, perhaps a bit smaller, how many layers will I need? How much material length total? Do you know any good videos for this exact type in which case please send? And is my aim of learning how to tie this in 2-3 weeks achievable? Forgive me I left it so late I had difficulties. WJKK WJKF
  4. Hello, I've noticed a disturbing new fashion trend among young singhs. It used to annoy me when I'd see young singhs with substantial dharis wearing patkas instead of proper pags. I don't get it. I think a patka with a beard looks sloppy, childish, and embarrassing. But many young men think a proper pagri makes them stand out more and wearing a patka helps them slip under the radar. Now, many young men have taken it a step further. Patkas still make it a bit difficult to "hide" since the joora is sticking out on top. So the latest "innovation" is to tie the joora at the back of the head and then cover the head with a bandana. This is just embarrassing. Why are young Sikh men so ashamed of the traditional Sikh appearance? They'd rather look like a random guy with a dhari wearing a bandana than look like proper Singh. In Punjab, men used to wear turbans with pride. A man's turban was his crown. Sikhs took pride in being recognizable rather than being able to go unnoticed. It's sad to see young men so desperate to look like anything but a Singh. Who will respect the dastar when the very men who should wear it with pride run away from it? Does anyone know where, when and why this trend started? What can we do to instill some pride in the youth?
  5. Guest

    Amrit & Dastar

    Hi to all, So I have problem, maybe it's not even a problem, maybe it's my insecurities I don't know. So I'm ready to take Amrit 100%. I do my Paath, I don't remove no hair whatsoever and try to be a good human being in general. So I believe when I do take Amrit my head should be covered at all times . However I am having trouble with this. So I've been practicing the Dastar for many months now and it simply does not suit me. I know you are probably thinking I am silly for even writing this but it does not suit my face. I've also tried different styles. So i figured I would wear a patka instead but I have a weird shaped head or something (lol), I don't know but patka don't look good at all. I don't know why I am even writing this post, I guess most of the replies will tell me I have insecurity issues and need to be more confident. I'm not really insecure at all . I have slight facial hair on my upper lip. I often have people at work, other girls saying I need to wax but I couldn't care less what others think about it. However I just want to tie a nice dastar that suits my face. :( Is there any other people out there, that faced same issue with dastar, I've tried many styles :(
  6. Hello, I would like to get SikhSangat's observations on the number of dastar-wearing Sikh women compared to the number of dastar-wearing (non-trimming, sabat surat) Sikh men under the age of 40 (I am most interested in the younger generation). It will be very interesting to see what Sikhs who live in the different part of the world have observed. Please state where you live, and whether your observation pertains to your locality, or if you believe it to be global (or over a wider geographic range than the area where you live). Please state your answer in the following format: "My observation is that for every non-trimming young Sikh man who wears a dastar, there are three young Sikh women who wear dastars" or "My observation is that for every young Sikh woman who wears a dastar, there are four non-trimming young Sikh men who wear dastars" You get the idea
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    rumal knot, patka, dastar

    This question is to parents of sons. When your son was growing up, did you have him wear a Rumal knot first covered by a handkerchief, then patka, then finally, full dastar?
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    my dastar and helmet

    wjkk, wjkf. i am a 17 year old amritdhari singh and have been thinking about buying a motorcycle, but i live in California where if you want to ride a motorcycle you are required to wear a helmet. so i am not sure if i will be able to put a helmet over my pagh (gol dastar) and was trying to see what the advice the sangat gives, wjkk, wjkf
  9. Thought I would share some information with fellow dastar wearing brothers and sisters as a word of caution. Over the weekend I visited Drayton Manor theme park (near Birmingham, UK) for the first time. I've been on all rollercoasters and rides wearing my pugg and have never had any issues both here in the UK and Florida. However when I went on Shockwave the stand up rollercoaster at Drayton Manor after the first loop there was a rapid acceleration and the wind factor literally blew my pugg right off. I literally couldn't believe it. It was not as if my turban was not tied tightly or loose in anyway, as I had just come off their G-Force rollercoaster fine. I have to give credit and respect to the staff there as they stopped the ride and one of the senior staff offered to go and see if they could find it, although he was not hopeful he would find it or it would be in a wearable state as he said there was water underneath that portion of the ride . I was so relieved that he managed to find it and returned to me. Afterwards he told me that I'm not the first one who has lost their turban on this ride especially after the first loop. Be warned and take precaution if your going to ride this one. I would be interested to know if any others have had a similar issue on this ride.
  10. WJKK WJKF, below is an account on Instagram I found, that belongs to a "caur". *edited* It is not the art that bothers me but the artist herself. tbh: what is happening?
  11. Guest

    Dastar / keski

    Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh ji I'm kesdhari, male. I wear a dastar. I was wondering, can men wear a keski in place of a dastar too? Like many women do. Sometimes I wear a keski around the house or if I'm having a lazy day and aren't going out or expecting company. Just wondered where we stand on this...
  12. As a UK Sikh, I voted for the UK to leave the EU on the single issue concerning me "as a Sikh". This was the 'Ban on Religious Symbols in the Workplace Upheld' by the EU. June 6 The European Court of Justice's advocate general said May 31 that private companies in Europe can ban all visible religious symbols in the workplace. According to legal experts consulted by Bloomberg BNA, the opinion requires employers to allow all religious symbols or none at all. Although nonbinding, the opinion is significant because it is likely to be followed by a similar binding legal ruling later this year by the ECJ, the experts told Bloomberg BNA. A binding ruling would redefine workplace dress codes throughout the 28-nation EU and could thus affect multinationals operating in the European Union. Sikhs fought in Europe during WWI and WWII. Sikhs were accepted with Dastars then, why not now? Financially, I may be worse off but my faith overrides all my financial concerns.
  13. Hi all, I am 23 years old, and last September I stopped cutting my hair and and started to wear a Dastar. Around a month ago a spot appeared on my forehead, as I wear my Dastar every day it hasn't healed properly and every time I remove my Dastar the spot looks flattened, red and is very sore to the touch. Over the past 2/3 weeks the spot as appeared to heal, then another one appeared alongside it and it has become uncomfortable during the day and very painful. I have used various spot ointments, bio-oil, sudocrem etc to try and help it heal and now put a plaster on over it prior to tying my dastar, but it hasn't gone away. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Any recommendations how I can proceed? Kind regards G
  14. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35563415 Why are some Sikh women now wearing the turban? By Rajeev GuptaHeart and Soul, BBC World Service 8 hours ago From the sectionMagazine Devinder and her daughter Har-Rai The turban is worn by millions of Sikhs - traditionally, mostly male ones. Now many Sikh women are donning it, too. Why? "Doing this has helped me stay grounded and focused on what my responsibilities are as a human being." Devinder is in her early 40s. She's a slender, tall British-Indian Sikh woman. She works as a teaching assistant at her local school in Ilford, north-east London. You can't help but notice that she wears a turban, or what's commonly known within Sikhism as a dastar. The turban is the one thing that identifies a Sikh more than any other symbol of their faith. An edict handed down in 1699 by the 10th Sikh Guru, Gobind Singh, requires Sikhs to not cut their hair. The turban, part of the Bana or military uniform at that time, was used to help keep the long hair and protect a Sikh's head. However, in line with its military tradition, it's something that has always been a masculine symbol and almost exclusively worn by men, not women. That is until now, it seems. "I wasn't always like this," says Devinder holding up a photo album of her younger years. "I used to have cut black curls, wear makeup - go out and do what people do on nights out… but it never sat comfortably with me even then." Seven years ago Devinder decided to become fully baptised into the Sikh faith. She stopped cutting her hair, and began wearing a tall white wrapped turban. "People told me I shouldn't do it and that it will hold me back. The elders felt it's something that Sikh women didn't do. But wearing my turban, I feel free and it pushes me forwards to be the best I can be every day." As well as wearing the turban, Devinder lets her facial and bodily hair grow naturally as well. It's something she speaks confidently about. Image copyrightGetty Images Sikh women have more traditionally worn headscarves"Asian women are naturally hairy so it was difficult to let go at first and let go of the expectations society places upon what a woman should look like," she says. "But letting it go was so empowering. It's a way of saying this is who I am, this is how God made me and putting that above what society expects of me." It impossible to know exactly how many Sikh women are now wearing the turban, but at a time when some Sikh men are deciding to cut their hair, Devinder is among a growing number of Sikh women deciding to wear one. Doris Jakobs, professor in religious studies at Waterloo University in Canada, has done some of the most in-depth research in this area. She says that women tying turbans are mostly Sikhs living outside of their traditional homeland of the Punjab in India. "This is something that the younger generation in the diaspora are doing. It's a sign of religiosity in which some Sikh women are no longer content with just wearing a chuni (headscarf). Wearing a turban is so clearly identifiable with being Sikh and so women now also want that clear visual sign that they are also Sikh as well. It's a play on the egalitarian principle of Sikhism." Post-9/11, many Sikhs faced discrimination and have even been attacked after being mistaken for Muslims. Some in the community say have turned to the turban as they feel it helps give them an individual identity. Sikhism at a glance Image copyrightGetty ImagesSikhism is a monotheistic religion, founded in the 16th Century in the Punjab by Guru Nanak and is based on his teachings, and those of the nine gurus who followed him The Sikh scripture is the Guru Granth Sahib, a book that Sikhs consider a living Guru There are 20 million Sikhs in the world, most of whom live in the Punjab province of India. The 2011 census recorded 432,000 Sikhs in the UK Jasjit Singh, a research fellow at Leeds University, has spent the last few years interviewing women who have begun to wear the turban. He says there are many reasons why they are doing it. "Some say it helps with meditation and others say its part of a Sikh's uniform," he says. "I found that many young girls see this as a way of reclaiming equality within the religion. The Punjabi community is still very patriarchal but these girls tell me that Guru gave a uniform to all Sikhs - and so why shouldn't they wear the turban as well." The idea is an interesting one. Some might find it curious that, in order to seek equality, a woman might dress like a traditional Sikh man. But others argue a woman wearing a turban is a sign of empowerment. Sarabjoth Kaur, 25, from Manchester, is one of them. She began wearing a turban two years ago. She appears draped in royal blue robes with a matching tightly wrapped turban. It has a metal shaster, a type of ancient Vedic weapon wedged into the front. Sarabjoth, a former bhangra dancer, says her faith became stronger after she witnessed devout white Sikhs wearing the turban whilst worshipping in India. She strongly defends the right for women to wear the turban. Image caption Sarubjoth Kaur (right) with Heart And Soul presenter Nikki Bedi"People in my family weren't comfortable with it. They thought it would be difficult to get a job or how would I find a good husband," she says. "Before we had to change to fit in with British society. "Sikh women are meant to be strong. They're still khalsa (saint soldiers of the Guru) and the Kkhalsa isn't differentiated on gender. When I tie my turban every morning I want to see my Guru. I feel a great sense of pride when I see my reflection as I think this is what my Guru looked like, this is what the khalsa looks like." You can hear the full report on Sikh women and the turban on BBC Radio World Service's Heart and Soul programme, 09:30 GMT on Sunday 14 February - or catch up on BBC iPlayer Radio
  15. VJKK VJKF... We did some price comparisons today for Dastars and we thought we would share what we found to save you the time when your looking in the future! Hope it helps.
  16. I am not making any negative statement against kaurs who wear daastar as my own singhni wears daastar. However, i am seeing the trend of people of my age who are going away from daastar after their marriage fails. I have lost the count of daastar bibian who once were forefront in running sikh camps etc and few of them i saw their marriages fail and somehow they start blaming sikhi for everything and quickly shuns the daastar and bombard their with tons of makeups etc. Personally i never seen a sardar who shuns wearing turban after failed marriage but its different than bibian. I do know youth shuns turban/kesh when they start growing beard but thats different thing. Anyone notice such thing?
  17. Sat Sri Akal, Sadh Sangat jee, I have a question that I wanted an answer to.. I am a Hindu from Punjab. So please pardon my ignorance. I just wanted to know if Wearing a Kalgi is prohibted to all. I know that in Hindu weddings the Kalgi is worn. But in Sikh weddings it is not. Because there is no one as great as Kalgidhar Dasmesh Pita Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Does this apply just to the weddings or in general aswell.
  18. Hi, my son decided some years ago, he was not going to cut his hair....now at the age of 11 almost 12, we are having a dastar bandi ceromony.....I've never been yo one, so unsure of what exactly to expect...except the obvious! Any advice would be gratefully received...do we need to give gifts etc.... thanks in advance
  19. VJKK VJKF I wear a Kenyan style dastar and I've never been able to get my patka underneath quite right. I've got no one to teach me and I've been tying what is a basic 'child like' patka underneath for years. What do you tie under your dastar? I want something that feels a little more comfortable underneath. Any help would be greatly apprenticed. Please post pics and/or directions how to tie. Bhul Chuk Maaf
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    Help Please

    Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheguru ji ki fateh :D This is not really gupt but I need help, I am starting University soon and really want to wear dastar. I am looking for Voile and Rubia material for my dastar. I am going india soon and hoping to buy it there but how do you say voile and rubia in punjabi? ??? I know, a really stupid question lol but please help! Need to know what they are called in punjabi ? I even tried google translater, but useless LOL Please don't close this topic Help :D GUPT SINGHNI :D
  21. The links provided are photos of the turban, effective tips and instructions on tying the turban will be appreciated. http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/57431854091 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/72002182417 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/79573988932 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/81428089556/epic-beard
  22. The links provided are photos of the turban, effective tips and instructions on tying the turban will be appreciated. http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/57431854091 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/72002182417 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/79573988932 http://www.singhstreetstyle.com/post/81428089556/epic-beard
  23. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh! Sangat Ji, the reason I have started this topic is to allow sangat Ji to give their views/opinions/reviews on dastaar (i.e. size, material, style/type, tips & techniques). Even though I know there are many post regarding the dumalla or dastaar, I thought it would be great if we are able to have all questions/queries and answers under one post (help me especially). Few questions for example: What material is best for dumalla/dasaar and Why? Length of your/common dumalla/dastar? Experience you have gained from learning to tie your dumalla/dastaar? Tips and techniques? Recommended shop to purchase material (include shop contact details)? Your first time experience from wearing a dumalla/dastaar? And many more....... I hope with Guru's Kirpa this benefits sangat new and old with dumalla/dastaar based question?
  24. So basically, with Maharaj ji's Kirpa I will finally be blessed with Amrit next week and honestly I can't wait I'm just so so excited. Thing is, I don't know how to do my dastar on that day considering the panj piaarae put Amrit in ur kesh as well. I don't want to do a joora I want to do my dastar I just don't know how to tie it so they can still put Amrit in my kesh. Any ideas? Please help.
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