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Fateh jio, I'm asking that this post/discussion operate under the principle that the future will bring destruction/war and that khalsa raj may happen during this/after this. Now a lot of the time you here on posts like these the following terms: Kalki Avtar, Nihklank Avtar and etc. do these mean the same thing and what exactly are they, from what I understand they are supposed to the next saviour? The main question I have is: Saying Guru Ji will take a physical form once again, does that not reduce/ remove Guru Granth Sahib Ji from the position of a Puran Guru? If Guru ji has to take a physical form because the world/khalsa has strayed too far that means that guru granth sahib ji was not able to save us. If Guru Granth Sahib Ji cannot save us then the following questions arise: Is the Guru granth sahib ji not a puran guru, not able to do all of the tasks of a physical guru? -some may say people have strayed too far and that's why a physical form is needed, but then that diminishes the power available of our shabad guru(I.e. not being able to move around/speak without vaak/however you want to phrase it) If our shabad Guru is incapable, then does that not extend back to the 10 physical gurus including Guru gobind singh ji who proclaimed that the Guru Granth Sahib Ji should lead the Khalsa? and therefore forward as well to any further forms that could come? If the jot of the guru granth sahib ji is the same jot as all of the other gurus, when the physical form takes shape, will that jot/guruship be passed onto the physical form and then remove the guru granth sahib ji from their takat? These are just some thoughts that crosses Dass's mind when I here of the return of the Guru's physical form, something being thrown around a lot more these days, by more and more credible sources. I mean no nindyah by this post! Just sorting out the dilemma that arises within my mind when hearing these statements. This may be a result of my own lack of knowledge as well. If i have said anything to offend please forgive me.

People keep debating about whether the world will end or not. But there's another question: Should this world end? We know the true reason for living. Simran, Bani, Seva. Reflect upon your own life and see if you uphold these principles. Do you fulfill your duties as a sikh or do you feel like you contribute to the disease that has taken hold of this world. This world is so lost and we as Sikhs have been given the responsibility to do something about it. But we don't. We squabble: over whose pocket the money in the golak goes to, whose jatha is following the more puratan rehit, whose right and whose wrong....the list can go on quite long. Where are the sikhs that people used to be in awe of? The sikhs who even going through such hardships still fought for the hindu family who had their daughter stolen, who still served others before they served themselves. Why are the gurudwara langar halls, and I'm speaking from a western point of view, filled with fat punjabi kids stuffing their mouths with samosas. Where are the poor, the needy for which this langar service was started. Why don't they know they can come to the gurudwara to get help regardless of caste/creed/race/religion? But I guess if we are not going to listen to parchar and give ourselves to sikhi, how are we ever going to show others how great the darbar of the guru can be? If the Sikhs of the Guru have failed in spreading Naam and Bani in the world, there's no one else left. So what's the point of prolonging it, bring on the fire and brimstone.