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  1. so my massi has a photo of Krishna at her house idk why she does is this acceptable for Sikhs to do this? I avoid visiting her and her family because I don't want to be associated with these type of people.They have 0 ounce of SIkhi in their life and are like wanna be westernised am i in the wrong for wanting to break contact with them?
  2. Just wondering how sikhi parallels to the gods believed to exist by great minds such as einstein. Does sikhi concept of god the same as the one thought of by Baruch Spinoza??
  3. How much importance is given to the Devi/Devte in Gurbani? Dasam Patshah says: http://sttm.co/s/7438/76000 ਕੀਟ ਪਤੰਗ ਕੁਰੰਗ ਭੁਜੰਗਮ ਭੂਤ ਭਵਿੱਖ ਭਵਾਨ ਬਨਾਏ ॥ He Created in the past, creates in the present and shall create in the future the beings including insects, moths, deer and snakes. ਦੇਵ ਅਦੇਵ ਖਪੇ ਅਹੰਮੇਵ ਨ ਭੇਵ ਲਖਿਓ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਸਿਉ ਭਰਮਾਏ ॥ The gods and demons have been consumed in ego, but could not know the mystery of the Lord, being engrossed in delusion. ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕਤੇਬ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਹਸੇਬ ਥਕੇ ਕਰ ਹਾਥ ਨ ਆਏ ॥ The Vedas, Puranas, Katebs and the Quran have tired of giving His account, but the Lord could not be comprehended. http://sttm.co/s/7429/75375 ਦੇਹਰਾ ਮਸੀਤ ਸੋਈ ਪੂਜਾ ਔ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਓਈ ਮਾਨਸ ਸਬੈ ਏਕ ਪੈ ਅਨੇਕ ਕੋ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The temple and the mosque are the same, there is no difference between a Hindu worship and Muslim prayer all the human beings are the same, but the illusion is of various types. ਦੇਵਤਾ ਅਦੇਵ ਜੱਛ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਤੁਰਕ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਦੇਸਨ ਕੇ ਭੇਸ ਕੋ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The gods, demons, Yakshas, Gandharvas, Turks and Hindus… all these are due to the differences of the various garbs of different countries. ਏਕੈ ਨੈਨ ਏਕੈ ਕਾਨ ਏਕੈ ਦੇਹ ਏਕੈ ਬਾਨ ਖਾਕ ਬਾਦ ਆਤਸ ਔ ਆਬ ਕੋ ਰਲਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ The eyes are the same, the ears the same, the bodies are the same and the habits are the same, all the creation is the amalgam of earth, air, fire and water. ਅਲਹ ਅਭੇਖ ਸੋਈ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਔ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਓਈ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਸਰੂਪ ਸਭੈ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਬਨਾਉ ਹੈ ॥੧੬॥੮੬॥ Allah of Muslims and Abhekh (Guiseless) of Hindus are the same, the Puranas of Hindus and the holy Quran of the Muslims depict the same reality all have been created in the image of the same Lord and have the same formation. 16.86. http://sttm.co/s/7468/76600 ਸਾਧ ਕਰਮ ਜੇ ਪੁਰਖ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ Because of virtuous actions ਨਾਮ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਜਗਤ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥ A purusha (person) is known as devta (god) ਕੁਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਕਰਮ ਜੇ ਜਗ ਮੈ ਕਰਹੀਂ ॥ And because of evil actions ਨਾਮ ਅਸੁਰ ਤਿਨ ਕੋ ਸਭ ਧਰਹੀਂ ॥੧੫॥ He is known as asura (demon).15. What are your thoughts? Do we give any importance to them?
  4. Why did God create everything? Everything that has ever existed? Iv read how at the beginning there was nothing, just Waheguru himself meditating on himself. Then why did he creat us and everything else? What was the purpose? Why was Maya created by Waheguru if it is a illusion? Why were we created and then put in this test? Why? Why were we and anything else created? And why is everything created as a test? Like why does God not make himself present before atheists and people like that? Why is it all a test, something that some people believe in and something that some people don't?
  5. Been thinking about this today, Can you actually prove the existence of God? Now it obviously depends what God you believe in ... For example if Hindus see Cows as a God or and incarnation of God then yes that Hindu can prove the existence of their God. But can you actually prove the existence of a God which is without form or shape? Once that does not physically talk to you? Transcendent and beyond time. You can't ! how can you actually prove something that is transcendent? God is something that you have faith in, a belief which is an emotion, and you can not prove an emotion! how can you "prove" a belief? faith? Now people have experiences of God or have visions, once again how are you actually supposed to prove a experience? You just can't ...
  6. What place does God hold in today's society within the Punjabi diaspora? Is God or Gods or whatever they worship relevant? Does God play a important role in ones relationships, decisions, moral dilemmas and new beginnings. Do Punjabis revolve their life around a devine being/beings, and believe in a afterlife, believe in consequences of their actions and divine judgement. Gods involvement in the world? And if they believe in a God/Gods do they belive in creating a relationship with him. It would be interesting to see what Punjabi peoples beliefs are and the relevance of God in their lives, in particular the ones aged under 40. What % are atheists and agnostics.
  7. What would you change in this world? What would you like to do?
  8. So i have noticed on here, we all have very distinct versions of what Vaheguru is, even when reading the same Guru Grant Sahib Ji, even when translated in English. The way I interpret it from my understanding so far Vaheguru is everything, no upar vaala , it's just everything including you.
  9. What did everyone learn today or this week?
  10. I have a question about the Shabad referring to God as, " Your eyes are so beautiful, and Your teeth are delightful. Your nose is so graceful, and Your hair is so long." If God is formless, then why are these characteristics being referenced? Pardon me for my ignorance.
  11. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Here is a question i I received from a Christian who is studying Sikhi: “If waheguru is eternal and encompasses the universe (but not limited to just the universe itself) and has existed always and will always continue to exist, how did ego enter into at least part of the world? if waheguru is inside all things including humans, at what point did parts of waheguru (by parts I mean humans, animals etc) get "infected" with ego? It would stand to reason that something pure like waheguru could never succumb to ego. for example the gurus or fully realized people will never succumb to ego again, correct? so if waheguru existed eternally, how did ego enter? has ego also existed eternally with waheguru? (I don't think this is the Sikhi standpoint). Is it possible for waheguru to cease existing permanently, or for waheguru to tell lies? I would assume that it would not be, since it goes against waheguru's nature, correct? Why would waheguru create confusion/ego/illusion and cause part of itself to be deluded? How do Sikh's know then that the Gurus never made a mistake, if as you say it's possible for a fully realized person to become deluded? Based on this, is it even possible that waheguru spoke some falsehoods or lies, even in the SGGS or part of the Sikh teachings?” How would you answere this question?
  12. Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! I have a personal doubt to discuss .. Lets start the topic (i m already sure a lot of you will have discordant opinions from mine but thats right all opinions are accepted). Before all i'd say i belong to a sikh family and i have faith in god (i sometimes do path and often listen to gurbani), but i m not amritdhari and i ve not even took kesh for the moment. My problem is that i have to deal with a nose which i personally dont like so much (a hooked nose, i mean a nose with a little hump, that is not really in harmony with my other facial features). Fortunately, people (in school,city,ecc) have never bullied me but i think that, during puberty, my nose got a bit worse due perhaps to two operations ( in childood i had two operations to the nose to improve breathing reducing my nasal polyps, that were harmful for the breathe, and extracting nasal adenoids). Anyway, the current fact (now i m 22) is that when i look up to the mirror i like my self and feel comfortable but when i look to my nose i always feel very down with mood and self esteem,, i think a nose job to ONLY REFINE nose will surely solve the problem so i will probably do it in future ( i will probably do this NOT FOR looking "better" around society but at first for my personal satisfaction and for my better psychological balance). In fact i am talking with you about nosejob after years full of doubts and paranoia (a very negative period): the last 2/3 years i suffered a lot, i generally was vulnerable , afraid of people/society opinions and criticism (also for stupid things, like a comment on my clothes or a majak about my shyness nature,ecc.) and consequently didn't like my self so much so i started to isolate from people, stay always closed at home and talk only with parents. My life was ruined. Fortunately, Thanks to god,to books,to my family support and also to the aid of a good psychologist (i had some sessions with her, despite my parents were wary at the beginning ) i understood a lot of my problems and i am realizing that first of all i HAVE TO to love my self, follow my wishes (of course with some limits) and live my life with passion, without thinking about other people bad opinions and be conditioned by them !! So one of my first wish as i said is to have a little change only in my actual nose (other wishes are for example to improve in my job, pray for sarbat da pala, help people in difficulty trough socialworks and internet, make my family and community proud, ecc.): i m not in favor of cosmetic surgery generally and i don't like plastic people but i think this surgery is right only if it is going to solve a serious estethic or pshicologically disease in a person who is mature, as in my case. On the other side i know that nosejob , being a part of cosmetic surgery, is against sikh discipline (according to the dharam, in fact, our body is a natural gift of god so we should try to mantain it the same till death) and as sikhs we should focus on our INNER peace/beauty and then reach guru grace. Me too, as i belong to sikh pariwaar (and one day with guruji kirpa wish to be baptized), i love gurbani and follow a lot of principles like be honest, respect others, do sewa, stay away fromdrugs,alcool, kaam, krod, onkar, and above all try to help people that are in difficulty (in fact one of my future project is to make as a passion instructive videos on youtube in order to spread POSITIVE VIBES and try to MOTIVATE people especially the young people who are in difficulty but have inside great hidden-talents!!) . So, in short words, i am a simple and educated person with a inner spirituality: I could seem a narcissist person just bcz i want to do this kind of operation (nose job) but i am sure i m not full of ego or a bad person (a huge "paapi banda") and i am also in good relation with the local khalsa community!! FINALLY I CAN EXPLAIN MY DOUBT: IN YOUR SIKHI OPINION IF I DO THE SURGERY BUT I STAY A GOOD AND HONEST PERSON FOR ALL MY LIFE , I WILL BE DEFINITELY CONDEMNED BY GOD DUE TO THE OPERATION OR I WILL HAVE ANYWAY THE POSSIBILITY TO REACH GURU GRACE AND GOD AFTER DEATH (TAKING MAYBE AMRiT AND FOLLOWING SIKH DISCIPLINE IN FUTURE)? i know a person who had hair transplantation some years ago and now he is a sardar and i also have an amritdhari excellent friend who in his young age got some permanent tattoos,, for me a nosejob is at the same PAAP LEVEL of getting tattoos, having hair transplant or going in the case of woman to hairfacial laser, isnt it ??? If i make some grammar mistakes i m sorry , i don t live in a british country.. look forward for any reply that can help me with my doubt . pulla chukka da maaf karna
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    A dream I once had

    I always end up thinking about this dream I had it was strange and yet very interesting at the time of this dream I was very young, I didn't know much of our religion but I always admired our Gurus and wanted to learn more, I believe I was around the age of 5 or 7 I recall the sky being black as if we are in space with many stars and yet I recall it being purple with waves, a grey stone building I was inside and a portrait of Guru Gobind Singh ji We spoke about the future I don't remember most of it but i do know before we spoke a Deep powerful voice saying something like this "I'll appear in a form you will be most comfortable with" and that's when Guru Gobind Singh ji started speaking. At the time I felt as it was Guru gobind Singh ji speaking but now I think it can also be God who went in the form of Guru gobind Singh ji that was the dream I can never forget another strange thing is that I bought a painting of guru gobind Singh ji when I was like 10 to 12 in a silver palace throne room he had silver clothes and a bird on his hand whenever I think about that dream I alwaya visioned it being in his palace, has anyone else dreamed of God speaking to them or Guru ji? The conversation about the future and my opinion on the world and the rest I have forgotten. I'm on mobile so my grammar or sentence structure isn't topknotch does this dream have a meaning? I recently decided to research even more about Sikhism and become more religious
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    Even Sikhs are brainwashed

    I just read this five-year-old thread here and I am amazed and astonished and disgusted at how mind-numbingly low religion can bring people. This was a post by a 20-year-old Sikh girl who happened to be in a relationship with a Muslim boy. There were absolutely no problems with the relationship -- he was NOT religious, he never spoke badly of her religion, he was very liberal and gentlemanly and encouraged her with her studies and did everything a good boyfriend should do. He was the polar opposite of the stereotype that Sikhs have of Muslims. Yet the girl was so ASHAMED to be in a relationship with a Muslim that she kept the relationship a secret from her family and friends. When she came here, confused and sad and looking for advice -- she was torn to pieces by her co-religionists who called her boyfriend racial slurs like "sullah," accused her of betraying her religion and family and culture, and saying she had cheapened and insulted her entire community because that community would suffer the humiliation of a Muslim boy having one of its women, apparently. The girl was basically bullied and verbally abused into breaking it off with the boyfriend, who had done absolutely nothing wrong once again, and was blindsided and rewarded for his kindness and open-mindedness and love with a stab in the back. She broke it off with him not because of anything he had done, but because he wasn't good enough for her tyrannical family and fellow Sikhs. As a nonreligious man with a Muslim family background I can somewhat understand that a really indoctrinated, generalizing Sikh ignorant of history and selective with memory would only remember that Aurangzeb had some guru flayed alive and that the Mughals staged massacres of Sikhs some five centuries ago, and that Muslims allegedly do X and Y and Z to Sikhs today, while of course completely turning a blind eye to any atrocities Sikhs are accused of. Yet still, the fact that such an ironfisted hatred can coexist with an average human IQ is baffling. Me, on the other hand -- I have NO religion. I cast mine off long ago. Why do I need a faith? What does a religious person have in their mind and spirit that I do not -- and what mistakes or sins do I commit that a religious person doesn't? I hate no one, no one is my enemy. I do not have to attach myself to a vast population that shares "my" religion and consequently have to hate whoever they hate and be against whoever they feel has wronged them. Religious books tell me (depending on the religion) not to eat bacon, mix wool with linen, cut my hair, accept blood donations, or some other gibberish -- while I have never learned anything about morality itself from a religious book that I did not already know thanks to being human. I am free to be a good person based on my own rationality and conscience, and am thus free from absurd and completely artificial expressions of religious morality. Being virtuous has nothing to do with refusing to cut your hair, wearing a turban, carrying around a dagger or praying at the gurdwara. I am shocked at how religious people can think that a decent life on earth requires so much arcane complication and symbolism and ritual. That thread was full of people who probably did all of these things, yet lacked any common sense or true morality. There is NO such thing as prophethood or revelation -- how can anyone think that God would reveal himself to ONE person like a guru or a prophet, and then simply leave billions of other human beings to be convinced or not convinced by the prophet's preaching? All the Sikh Gurus combined, know as much as I do about God -- and that is as much as the Pope of Rome, the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, or the President of the Mormon Church knows -- NOTHING. Your revelations, miracles, prayers -- are all stories in an extremely well-written book of poetry, like the Bible and the Qur'an. The Sikhs I have met in real life seem very little like the ones in the thread. They were humble, polite, well-spoken, not dogmatic in the least, always inviting me to gurdwara for this or that although I avoid all places of worship -- but it seems religious and committed Sikhs are just as bad as really committed Muslims or really committed Hindus. We all need to GROW UP. If I tell you I'm Muslim and you tell me I'm Sikh, that's like me saying I believe in Santa Claus while you believe in the Easter Bunny. There may very well be a god -- the universe could not have come from nothing -- but religion is the most powerful fairy tale ever, in that children continue to believe and swear by it until they die of old age, despite not a shred of evidence to support one atom of any religion. I believe India in particular is falling apart because of religion. The trick is not to encourage tolerance or dialogue or anything like that -- that has been tried for thousands of years. The trick is to realize that that holy book you're holding in your hand, whatever your religion, belongs in a literature class -- it has nothing to do with reality and it's not a replacement for your brain.
  15. If there is One God why is there so many ways to get to God. Hindus believe in reincarnation, Christians believe In Heaven and Hell, and I think Muslims believe in Hell and Heaven too (?) How can there be one God if there is so many different beliefs about what will happen after we die? Also how come Sikhi is one of the religions that believe any path to God is good whereas Christians believe gif your not Chrisitan your going to hell and same with Muslims. Like this is annoying me and making me doubt everything. Sorry if I said anything wrong.
  16. I been viewing a few clips of jagraj singh from basics of sikhi and he mentions in a few videos that Guru Nanak was God? When he debates muslims, which I believe to be a fundamental mistake. Also in my view it is a totally wrong approach to take with a muslim cos they automatically get disinterested when someone is associating God with "partners" as it is the biggest sin in islam according to them its called "shirk". From my understanding of gurbani and sikh scriptures Guru Nanak Dev Ji was not God and he even states he is a servant / slave of God and it is God whom he worships and sings his glory of. So why is Jagraj mentioning that Guru Ji was God? It totally contradicts Guru Ji himself and the very notion of core Sikh beliefs that there is only 1 God. We are not Christians that believe Jesus is 3 in 1 where a physical God can suffer pain, die and get resurrected yet worship another God. Or Muslims who believe in a God sitting on a throne above the 7 skies outside his creation. We believe that God (consciousness) resides in every soul, every living being and outside it out in the realms of existence. So I'm wondering why is jagraj / basics of sikhi coming to this illogical conclusion?
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    Is God A Dictator?

    Why was i created without my approval? What if i didnt want to come here? Why was i forced into the life and death cycle? Why do i now have to worship god to escape this cycle? This sounds like a dictatorship
  18. Aasaa, First Mehl: Having attacked Khuraasaan, Baabar terrified Hindustan. The Creator Himself does not take the blame, but has sent the Mugal as the messenger of death. There was so much slaughter that the people screamed. Didn't You feel compassion, Lord? ||1|| O Creator Lord, You are the Master of all. If some powerful man strikes out against another man, then no one feels any grief in their mind. ||1||Pause|| But if a powerful tiger attacks a flock of sheep and kills them, then its master must answer for it. This priceless country has been laid waste and defiled by dogs, and no one pays any attention to the dead. You Yourself unite, and You Yourself separate; I gaze upon Your Glorious Greatness. ||2|| One may give himself a great name, and revel in the pleasures of the mind, But in the Eyes of the Lord and Master, he is just a worm, for all the corn that he eats. Only one, who dies to his ego while yet alive, obtains the blessings, O Nanak, by chanting the Lord's Name. ||3||5||39|| It says God doesn't take the blame for the deaths, yet it says the Mughal was SENT as a messenger of death. So, God is responsible because he sent the killers. The question appears to be unanswered, it says "didn't you feel compassion?" Then it says "God is master of all", then says if a "tiger attacks a flock of sheep, the master must answer for it", so God must answer as he is the master of all, the sheep and tigers. Is the shabad speaking against Babbar? "just a worm, no matter how much corn you eat". Can someone explain this, if not, send me katha on this.
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    Merging Back Into God

    Merging back into God is the story for every soul, No matter what she is experiencingin life. She will merge back into God whether it be today or tomorrow. This is the way it was written by her Husband Lord. Instagram : Gurpal_1
  20. Pretty self explanatory. I was reading something on societies where there's a discernible class divide between northern and southern territories, and in most cases where the levels of education were low (what people are quick to label as 'backwards') the religious fervour and adherence was at its peak, whereas in areas where there are greater numbers of educated professionals there is a noticeable relaxation in religious adherence. Opinions on why that might be the case? Anyone else disturbed by the suggestion that religious adherence suggests a lack of intelligence (if measured by one's location, employment, environment, etc?) Why does a life lived religiously presuppose a distinct disadvantage in getting ahead in life (if "getting ahead" is measured by a high level of education, a professional job, and the resultant social and financial benefits). There are exceptions in many cases. This is just a broad, generalised look at issues. All types of replies welcome; spiritual, empirical, whatever.
  21. Hi, I've been a Sikh since I was born and I've never been a baptised Sikh (wear turban etc), I guess that means I'm not actually a Sikh per say. I pray and try to become closer to God but I've never been able to make the decision to be a baptised Sikh for various reasons. Will I ever have a hope of becoming closer to God like this? I've got a lot of pain going on right now and I'm hoping God will help me out. My Karma may be bad because I've been hitting rock bottom for a few years now and I can't seem to get out of this bad section of my life but I see people who are very cruel and barely do any good in this world and they have a comfortable life. I'm really confused as to how to stop the pain and sorrow in my life but I'm not sure Waheguru will accept my asking unless I become a proper Sikh.
  22. I think the bottom line is, people wanting to join religion these days is just the same reason people join gangs, they want to defend their beliefs with the option of violence, people who have grown up in fear or wanting protection seek out these groups to become protected. Sikhism is not a violent religion, we do not go out of our way to inflict pain or intimidation, only provoked or in danger may we think about something like that and because of that people feel they need to leave. These days people, whether it be in religion, careers, gangs, organisations all want to be part of a group, to follow the crowd forgetting that the true purpose of life is to become closer to God, this idea has been lost amongst a lot of people and only when it is too late will they realise. They want to feel protected under mere mortals forgetting the all powerful creator, God is the one whom we should be wanting to meet, he is the one whom protects us when we may not even know it, always looking over us. The world doesn't need violence, intimidation or fear, what is the point in ruling a planet of death? this Earth is nothing, it is fake, a mirage. The true kingdom is the one belonging to God, whom he is the supreme ruler, the ruler over everything in existence. Science has corrupted the minds of the people, whilst finding cures for illness and disease it has allowed them to find a reason not to believe in God, the human ego will lead to the destruction of the non believers of God, they don't want to believe that there is a higher power, they think the human race is the most intelligent and advanced race in all of existence. Their ego will be their ultimate undoing. This is what I say to my fellow Sikhs, concentrate on your connection with God, rally with the true believers of God for everyone else is lost unless they find belief in God by themselves. They only have to look around in nature, look down at the tiny insects whom forage for food amongst the grain of the Earth to the skies where the birds soar across the horizon to feel the power of God, how intricate in design life is. How every living creature has a purpose in relation to all life as a whole. Religion only shows you how to connect with God, the practical side of it is up to the person. Do not worry about the people who leave Sikhism, who join other religions or those who don't believe at all because it is in God's will that this is happening, praise Waheguru, love Waheguru and everything will be fine. Even if you feel lost, with no hope, everything around you seems to be falling apart, the only one whom can truly pick up the broken pieces of your life and construct a foundation for you to build your future, is God. God is everywhere all around us, his essence is embedded within all of creation, embedded within the universe. His power knows no limits, so do not seek out mere mortals for help, do not look for the aid of mortals to build your future, it is only God who can truly help you, help humanity as a whole. Peace
  23. Hello everyone, I am currently a teenager living in the United States. Growing up, I have always been accustomed to sikhism--my parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts--all have very strong faith and path everyday. Moving to America, it has been a little hard for them to translate this faith into me, I live in a predominantly white town, with the closest Gurudawara being 2 hours away. I know how to speak basic punjabi, I've learned it all my life, and I do path everyday—once in the morning, once before I go to sleep. However, know that I am growing up, I want to take my faith to the next level. I have had small instances where I really felt the presence of God with me/around me, and I want to feel that on a daily basis. The only thing is, when I path, I don’t fully understand what I am saying, making it harder for me to path. I’ve looked up translations and have memorized what the words mean, but I personally feel like my faith shouldn’t come from memorization, it should come naturally. I really do want to learn more about my faith, because honestly, I don’t fully know all the details, and it is so hard for us to go to a Gurudawara because my parents work all day. I read different articles, but I really want to feel that presence with God, I want to know that he is always with me and is watching over me every step of the way. If you guys could help me know more about the religion or help me further progress my relationship with God that would be extremely appreciated. Thank you so much, and I am so sorry if I have said anything that is not 100% correct, spelling wise or content wise.
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