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We all know how Congress and BJP are 2 faces of the same coin as far as Sikhs are concerned. While Congress openly butchered Sikhs in peri-1984 era, BJP is clearly known for its anti-Sikh policies. A new political party called AAP ( Aam Admi Party) has sprung in India. It actually formed government in Delhi state just a while ago. AAP seems to be focusing a lot on providing an honest and clean governance with a lot of emphasis on removing corruption. As far as Sikhs are concerned, it seems to be a much better alternative to Congress or BJP. Here's a few things which I think we should consider if we ( as Sikhs) were to support this party on a national level 1) This is the only party which openly supported the recent Bhai Gurbaksh Singh's movement. 2) AAP says both BJP and Congress are communal. It openly voices to bring corrupt BJP and Congress politicians to justice. 3) Senior lawyer HS Phoolka ( who has tirelessly & selflessly worked for the 1984 Carnage victims) recently joined AAP 3) A lot of liberal and intellectuals are joining AAP 4) Hindu terrorists attacked AAP's office as one of its senior members said there should be referendum for army presence in Kashmir, shows the fact that this party is anti-Hindtva 5) AAP joined in sooner than any other party when Nirpreet Kaur sat on hunger strike for 1984 victims 6) AAP mentioned in its manifesto to provide justice to victims of 1984 genocide 7) AAP has a Sikh cell within the party. 8) Arvind Kejriwal ( leader of AAP) visited Gurdwara Bangla Sahib without any security within days of becoming chief minister of Delhi on occasion of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Gurpurab. The question would be given the fact that Sikhs absolutely do not have any political voice in India ( assuming we all agree that Badals are rather anti-Sikh), would it be worthwhile for SIkhs to support AAP ? We need to align ourselves with a national party in India & by aligning with BJP, the Badals have ruined a lot of our prospects. Congress and BJP have done their best to malign Sikhs at all levels. Should Sikhs align with AAP early only ( while it is still in its infancy)?

Almost Half-Century Later, Sardar Kapur Singh's Warning Continues to Haunt Sikh Nation SOURCE: http://www.panthic.org/articles/5528 Sardar Kapur Singh, the Sikh parliamentarian, theologian, was a former member of the elite Indian ICS. He was the main architect behind the famed “Anandpur Sahib Resolution” and was an unrelenting critic of the prejudiced policies of India in terms of the Sikh Nation. His famous work "Saachi Sakhi", details the systematic subjugation of the Sikh community after 1947 under the newly founded Indian hegemony. Highly regarded in Panthic circles, Sardar Kapur Singh was bestowed the title "National Professor of Sikhism" by Sri Akal Takht Sahib. He would publicly scorn the ineffectual callous Sikh leadership and in his lectures, he would passionately implore the youth to reject this scourge as they had become an obstacle in fulfilling the divine destiny of the Khalsa. On August 23rd, 1968, during a conference organized by the All India Sikh Students Association, at Punjab University, Chandigarh, he uttered the following: “...The Young Khalsa now must actively undertake to deliver the Sikh masses from the slavery of spiritual charlatans, called the sants and the Sikh Panth from the ruinous leadership of incompetent thugs and uneducated hooligans, called the jathedars." These prophetic words of caution uttered by the great Sikh statesman nearly half a century ago, still ring true today, as the people of Punjab for whom Sardar Kapur Singh tirelessly agitated for all his life, seem content shackled by the mental slavery imposed by the current Panthic leadership of spiritual charlatans (sants) and incompetent thugs (jathedars) . SOURCE: http://www.panthic.org/articles/5528

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH ADMIN ji, benti, can we please put a ban on racist language. Terms such as "p*ki" etc which seem to be used on the regular on this forum. In the same other profane terms are banned, can a ban be applied to these racist terms please? * P*ki: Chiefly British Offensive Slang. Used as a disparaging term for a person of Pakistani or South Asian birth or descent. The term may be used amongst people of Pakistani decent, however, what right does that give us to use the term? And those who do use it in a derogatory manner, are only associating themselves with those people. As a Sikh forum, one of very few, this platform for healthy discussion attracts people from all walks of life. Sikhs wanting to further their knowledge of Sikhi and non-Sikhs wanting to gain an understanding of Sikhs and Sikhi, respectively. Currently, there are two discussions where profane language is being used. Is this the image we want to create of Sikhs and Sikhi alike? There are children using this site. Yes, this is a forum and therefore discussions can not always be restricted. However, in the same way that other profanity is banned, words such as the "F" word etc, racist terms should also be banned. In the end, it comes down to us, the users of this amazing platform, to watch what we say. In an ideal world, Admin would not need to ban any words. We must ask ourselves, is this what we have been taught by our Guru Sahib? And is this the image we want to create of ourselves? We are Sikhs. Children of our father, Dasam Pita, Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj. Pul chuk muaf ji WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

got good sangat at gurdwara, knew them for over 10 years but parents suddenly stopped us going reason is known.. it is my behavior, apparently its bad, but i dont think so, i helpat home,,, dont talk back etc... and my school friends at school are all muslim, no sangat at the moment haven't been gurdwara in 2 months still reading as much bani as possible teen need my sangat back, but how?

RENO, NV - A Reno man has been charged with providing material support to terrorism groups in India and Pakistan to intimidate the Indian government and to harm people who were not supporting their cause, according to Daniel G. Bogden, United States Attorney for the District of Nevada and the FBI. “A thorough investigation and cooperation among agencies led to these charges,” said U.S. Attorney Bogden. “Investigating and prosecuting matters of national security is the top priority of the U.S. Department of Justice.” Balwinder Singh, aka Jhajj, aka, Happy, aka Possi, aka Baljit Singh, 39, of Reno, is charged in an indictment with one count of conspiracy to murder, kidnap, and maim persons in a foreign country, one count of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, one count of making a false statement on an immigration document, two counts of use of an immigration document procured by fraud, and one count of unlawful production of an identification document. Singh was arrested on Tuesday, Dec. 17, 2013, in Reno, and is scheduled to appear before a United States Magistrate Judge on Friday, Dec. 20, 2013, for an initial appearance and arraignment. “After an extensive investigation, the FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) of Northern Nevada has disrupted an individual’s involvement in facilitation activities in support of a foreign terrorist organization, targeting an ally of the United States,” said FBI Special Agent in Charge Laura A. Bucheit. “We will continue to work with our international partners to prevent acts of terrorism on U.S. soil or, as in this case, on that of an ally. This investigation demonstrates the importance of law enforcement coordination and collaboration here and around the world.” According to the indictment, Singh was a citizen of India who fled to the United States and claimed asylum. Singh lived in the United States where he eventually obtained a permanent resident card from the United States. The indictment alleges that Singh is a member of two terrorist organizations, Babbar Khalsa International (BKI) and Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF), whose members aim to establish an independent Sikh state in part of the Punjab region of India known as Khalistan. These groups engage in bombings, kidnappings and murders in India to intimidate and compel the Indian government to create the state of Khalistan. These groups also target for assassination persons they consider traitors to the Sikh religion and government officials who they consider responsible for atrocities against the Sikhs. The indictment alleges that the object of the conspiracy was to advance the goals of BKI and KZF by raising money and obtaining weapons to support acts of terrorism in India. It is alleged that the conspiracy began on a date unknown but no later than Nov. 30, 1997. It is alleged that Singh used a false identity and obtained false identification documents in the United States so that he could travel back to India without being apprehended by the Indian authorities. It is alleged that Singh communicated with other coconspirators by telephone while he was in the United States to discuss acts of terrorism to be carried out in India. It is alleged that Singh sent money from Reno, Nev., to co-conspirators in India for the purchase of weapons that would be provided to members of the BKI and KZF to support acts of terrorism in India. It is alleged that Singh traveled from the United States to Pakistan, India, and other countries to meet with coconspirators to assist in the planning of terrorism in India, and that Singh provided advice to coconspirators about how to carry out acts of terrorism. If convicted, Singh faces up to life in prison and fines of up to $250,000 on each count. The case is being investigated by the FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Force in northern Nevada, and prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Sue Fahami and Brian L. Sullivan, and Trial Attorney Mara M. Kohn of the U.S. Department of Justice Counterterrorism Section. The public is reminded that an indictment contains only charges and is not evidence of guilt. The defendant is presumed innocent and entitled to a fair trial at which the government has the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Follow the Link to watch video http://www.kolotv.com/news/headlines/CNN-Reno-Man-Charged-With-Helping-Sikh-Militant-Group-236455731.html?device=phone

email the following letter to your local MP, the PM, email wgad@ohchr.org and newyork@ohchr.org urging them to take action. Honorable Sirs & Madams: I am writing to file a complaint and urgent appeal to secure the release of Sikh Prisoners of Conscience who are being deprived of their liberty by being imprisoned in India for years beyond the sentenced term of prison in egregious violation of Universal Declaration of Human Rights and international law. Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa, a Sikh rights Activist is on continuous hunger strike since November 14 demanding the release of Sikh prisoners of conscience who are being illegally detained and deprived of their liberty by the Government of India. On November 14, Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa went on the hunger strike to secure the release of Gurmeet Singh; Lakhwinder Singh; Shamsher Singh; Lal Singh; Wariam Singh; and Gurdeep Singh Khaira. These prisoners of conscience are being detained beyond their sentenced terms and the Indian authorities have not released them even after the completion of their prison term. Each of these individuals is in continuous detention for a period ranging from 18 to 23 years, a period which is way in excess of the 14 years sentence imposed on them. A review of the each of these cases reveals that they fall under "Category I" cases as identified by the Working Group on Arbitrary Detention. According to the Working Group's mandate, "Category I" cases are those where: "t is clearly impossible to invoke any legal basis justifying the deprivation of liberty (as when a person is kept in detention after the completion of his sentence or despite an amnesty law applicable to him)" As per the mandate of the Working Group on Arbitrary Detentions as established by resolution 1991/42 of the former Commission on Human Rights, an immediate action is warranted in this case by the Working Group on Arbitrary Detentions. The actions of Indian government related to continuous arbitrary detention of Sikh Prisoners of Conscience violate every norm of democracy, Universal Declaration of Human Rights and International laws. If the ongoing practice of illegal and arbitrary detention of Sikhs goes unchecked, it will result in another era of unrest, torture, illegal detentions, enforced disappearances and extra judicial killings of Sikhs, a religious minority, as it happened to them during 1984-98 which has been extensively documented by United Nations, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. I, therefore, urge you to: * SECURE the release of Sikh Prisoners of Conscience Gurmeet Singh; Lakhwinder Singh; Shamsher Singh; Lal Singh; Wariam Singh; and Gurdeep Singh Khaira and save the life of Sikh activist Bhai Gurbaksh Singh Khalsa who is on continuous Hunger Strike since November 14 Submitted by: Your Name

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Waheguru Tunnel an old drainage pipe: SGPC Yudhvir Rana, TNN Nov 26, 2013, 05.23AM IST AMRITSAR: A Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) official has clarified that the tunnel-like structure discovered beneath the surface near the 'langar' hall of the Golden Temple in Amritsar was a drainage pipe laid in earlier times. SGPC additional secretary Diljit Singh Bedi told TOI, "After inspecting the mysterious structure, we found it to be a drainage pipe laid a few centuries ago, which has been covered now." A sewadar (worker) at the Golden Temple chanced upon a tunnel-like structure and a small room made of Nanakshahi bricks while digging near the 'langar' hall of the shrine. Initially, people believed that the tunnel was an ancient secret passage, which was used during the days of Maharaja Ranjit Singh or a passage to connect with other gurdwaras in the Holy City. Sources in SGPC told that in olden days there used to be a network of underground tunnels, which were used by messengers for delivering letters and other messages from Lahore to Delhi and were also used as secret passages in case of emergency. However, SGPC didn't take the advice of archaeological experts to ascertain whether the structures were of historical importance. A similar underground passage was discovered while digging in the area of Gurdwara Lohgarh located in the walled city in 2010 as well. It was then suggested that the tunnel was either a secret passage connecting Lohgarh Fort and Gobindgarh Fort or an ancient sewerage pipe but experts were not consulted. Conservator Rajnish Khosla questioned, "How can one reach at a logical conclusion without consulting experts?" He suggested that the tunnel discovered underneath should be covered with glass and preserved for future generations. "This could be a curious sight showcasing rich Sikh architecture for lakhs of devotees who visit Golden Temple everyday," said Khosla. Readers' opinions (1) Sort by:Newest|Oldest hamzaji () 26 Nov, 2013 03:40 PM "After inspecting the mysterious structure, we found it to be a drainage pipe laid a few centuries ago, which has been covered now." There was no sewage system with pipes a few centuries ago. Source: http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-26/india/44485407_1_drainage-pipe-golden-temple-langar-hallWaheguru

Does anyone know how many sikh schools we have in the UK? Also can you provide me the link/reference etc. Many Thanks

Hi, I have an opportunity to go to America for 2 weeks and visit an American University (Harvard, Massachusetts and Yale). However, I don't know if I should go. The stories I hear of Sikhs in America do put me off. I know it probably doesn't happen a lot, but it is a bit off putting. Has anyone been to these universities, or live near them? How is the area and are there Sikhs in the area?

Im not here to discuss what Sikhi or anyone has to say regarding homosexuality. I just want some honest advice, less of the preaching. So I am in a relationship with a guy. I also happen to be kesdhari. A decision of my own, not forced upon by parents etc. Long story short, I was on a path, decided being gay was "curable" or "forgettable", decided to keep my kesh and then i met my partner and now im stuck. Erm basically i have come to accept who and what i am. And the way i see it, my actions, my consequences. "Ohdi o jane, minu apni tohr niba lehn de". But...as a kesdhari guy i also represent millions. And though i dont see being gay as a bad or wrong thing, i just dont want any related stigma being linked to sikhi. For example, "hey your gay and sikh, so its allowed in sikhism...etc". I dont want that. Sikhi has and always will be an integral part of me. I can and will not let people associate my actions with those of sikhi. Similar to a kesdhari drinking or smoking or hanging out in brothels etc. I would never do that. So i guess what im asking is, what should i do? Please dont give me quotes and preaching etc sorry but its no use trying to talk me out of my sexuality. Try not being straight. Live and let live. Thank you.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ji The below post was posted a while back in gupt and subsequently locked, no reasons given. Though its not my place to comment on the posters sexuality, i do think he made some valid points worth discussing. Also, if for some reason admin think this post should be locked, please give reasons. Thank you. " Hello All, Before I get to my question, I'd like to give some background as to where it's coming from. I am a western born and raised proud Sikh male. I am not amritdhari, as I don't believe I will be able to follow the strict "rules" constructed by society and applied to those who choose that path. I am also gay and therein lies the issue. From my research, I have come to understand that the Gurbani is silent on the issue of homosexuality. However, the Akal Takth has taken a heavy stance against it (I find this ironic since Sikhi is a religion founded on the basis of acceptance and equality. Telling people there's no such thing as homosexuals and they don't deserve the support of the community is the last thing I would expect from a leader of the faith.) Recently, I have been contemplating telling my friends and family of my sexuality. I understand this will cause them much pain, but it is who I am and people deserve to know the "real" me, and I also deserve to be proud of who I am (by hiding it, I'm making it out as something to be ashamed of; which I don't believe it is). Also, the idea of marriage is becoming a larger issue in my life, and there is only so much time that I will be able to manage to put it off. I have 3 questions which I'd like opinions about: 1) How would you react to the knowledge that someone you were close to was gay? 2) What are your thoughts on the consequences of the combination of my sexuality and religion? 3) What are your thoughts on the Akal Takth's stance against gay marriage and homosexuality? Now before people ask: Yes, I have tried "not to be gay", but it's not a choice. Trying is akin to pretending; which is lying; which is wrong. Also, have you "tried" not to be straight?"

Some community leader apparently SUPPORTED Ron Leech comment, and threw in several remarks about SIkhs as well SEE http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=6e452021-c216-47ef-9701-da22ec1b9617&p=1 Last month, hundreds of Sikhs went to Parliament to demand that the government of India grant clemency for a convicted terrorist Balwant Singh Rajoana, who was the backup suicide bomber in the assassination of an Indian political leader. NDP justice critic Jagmeet Singh demanded the same thing in Ontario's legislature. Rajoana belonged to the banned Babbar Khalsa terrorist group, which fought in the 1990s for the establishment of a pure Sikh nation called 'Khalistan.' The movement called for the ethnic cleansing of the Hindu minority in India's Punjab state and was responsible for the bombing of an Air India jet which slaughtered 330 mostly Hindu Canadians. An Ontario MPP should be commenting on justice issues in Ontario, not using his status to stand up for convicted terrorists in a faraway land. Hundreds of Sikh Canadians happily protest in favour of this terrorist, but when have we ever seen large numbers of these people picketing on a purely Canadian issue? Shockingly, Pardeep Nagra, manager of employment equity at the Toronto District School Board, admits to having numerous discussions with youth about 'Khalistan' and sees nothing wrong with the concept. This may explain why some second generation Sikh Canadians are becoming brainwashed into supporting a genocidal ideology which is dead in the land of its origin. And ultimately, we Canadians are responsible for the presence of not insignificant numbers of people who reside here but dream of slaughtering people overseas.

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The real reason why Sikh and Hindu girls run off with Muslims is quite simply because Muslims males mature faster then Sikh and Hindu guys. This is all to do with Muslims and Circumcision. A males maturity is all down to how much they engage in Masturbation. This is their hidden weapon, If you look up on on circumcision. This was originally practiced to deter Masturbation as it makes this practice less pleasurable as the foreskin has many nerve endings. Masturbation was said to be an evil sin back then as they said it led to a male becoming weak, insane and made him lazy and unable to concentrate and many other negative factors. and you know what? there is alot of truth in what they belived. Say what you want about muslims but circumcisions which was copied from the jews gives them a great advantage in life. as Muslims become alot more mature and intelligent then they otherwise would be. purely for not engaging in masturbation. when one is circumcised pleasure from masturbation is greatly reduced due to alot of the nerve ending being cut, hence one will do this activity less. Jews are probably one of the most if not the most successful group of people in this world and they practice circumcisions.As this is a natural deterrent to masturbation. At the ages of 14 to 20 its well know that youngsters do this behavior very frequently because the effcts of very powerful and morefull then a drug. infact the same high that you get from drugs is the same in sex. ie dopamine high. hence why at the ages of 14 - 20 they have a great advantage of other religion males. Girls love confident, mature and self assured males. that's what girls are attracted to. Muslims fro all their faults become alot more confident and mature an an early age. they are able to manipulate girls and being them to islam. on the other hand sikh and hindu teenagers are still not as mature and intellegent as them. when one masturbates this decreases their normal agression, totestron and hunger to date girlls. you lose intellegence, craftiness ect. why do you think alot of muslims are so crafty and intellegent when it comes to manipulation other people into their religion. especially girl?? they for sall their faults have a hidden weapon that they themselves dont even know about. I only know about this is beacuse I myself was once addicted to sex. and I stopped for months and noticed a direct correlations with how I used to be and when I stopped. I went from being a shy, unsociable, weak, unconfident, lacked motivation, had no ambition. to a very crafty and intelligent person. im not saying circumcision is right but it also has many psychological benefits. look at jews they have circumsions and they have the best scientist, millionaires ect in the world. what the secret?? well they dont bother with evil masturbation that s retards the brain and weaknes the mind. if you dont believe me then refrain from this activity for 2 weeks only and your whole body and mind will change and you will become alot more intelegent then you are at the moment. you might find this difficult to comprehend and I might not be comming across as articulate as i should be. but ive read up on this enourmously. My observation of most muslims I have com acroos. although their religion holds them back. They make up for alot of this due to being circumscised which by default stops them physicall from engaging in masturbation it makes it a less pleasurable activity. it completely desenitses the . why are muslims able to dominate others? why are muslim so agressive? why are muslim always fighting why are muslims converting everyong? why are muslims so mature at an early age and able to manipulate others? when one mastubations in a nutshell onw becaome weak both mentally and physically. what you have with Muslims is males that are full of testosterone which makes you more stronger mentally and physically. semen contains testostrone and all vitimans and minerals for optimal brain development. why are muslims more confident then others at an early age? its purely down to 1 things. all our life force is contained in semen. if you get rid of this to much. you will fail. you might say why are muslims mostly uneducted why are they in poverty then other relgions why are they on benifits? well actually alot of muslims are very succesfull business owners not all are on benifits and for all the natural advantage they have that circumcison gives them their religion itself brings them back down. without circusmsions muslims would be no way as succesfull as dominating, manipulating other reigions as they are doing right now if the were not circumcised. apologi

Celebrating Bandi Chor Divas, Kent Kirtan Society (UK) Presents Kathavachak Bhai Sahib Singh (Canada Wale) UK Tour 20th Oct-3rd Nov: Sun 20 Oct: 12-12:45pm Gurdwara Sikh Sangat, Harley Grove, Bow, London, E3 2AT 2:45-3:30pm Gurdwara Guru Nanak Darbar, King Street, Southall, UB2 4DQ Mon 21-Thurs 24 Oct: 11am-12pm Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Havelock Road, Southall, UB2 4NP 7:30-8:30pm Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Park Avenue. Southall, UB1 3AG Fri 25- Sun 27 Oct: 8-9pm Nanaksar Thath Isher Darbar, Mander Street, Wolverhampton, WV3 0JZ Sun 27 Oct: 11am-12pm Gurdwara Bebe Nanaki Ji, 189 Rookery Road, Birmingham, B21 9PX 12:15-1:30pm Ramgharia Sikh Temple, 51 Graham Street, Birmingham, B1 3JR 2:30-3:30pm Guru Har Rai Sahib Gurdwara, 128 High St West Bromwich, B70 6JW Mon 28 & Tues 29 Oct: 7-8pm The Sikh Temple, 192 Chapeltown Road, Leeds, LS7 4HZ Wed 30 Oct: 7:30-9pm Gurdwara Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Khas, West Way, South Shields, NE33 4SR Thurs 31 Oct: 7:30-9pm Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Cottenham Street, Newcastle, NE4 5QU Fri 1 Nov: 6:30-8pm Gurdwara Baba Budha Sahib Ji, 24 Gladstone Street, Nottingham, NG7 6GA Sat 2 Nov: 7:30-8:45pm Central Gurdwara, 32 Derby Street, Manchester, M8 8RY Sun 3 Nov: 11am-12:20pm Guru Nanak Gurdwara, 2/20 Tunbridge Street, Preston, PR1 5YP 1:15-2:15pm Sri Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara, 57 Upper Chorlton Road, Manchester, M16 7RQ 6:15-7:15pm The Sikh Temple, 192 Chapeltown Road, Leeds, LS7 4HZ 8:15-9pm Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Sikh Temple, Warren Street, Sheffield, S4 7WT For further info contact: 07403288274/07748803614 or visit www.kentkirtansociety.org

Murder hunt on after father pushed under truck while fighting off a gang of robbers Murder scene: Forensic officers in Barking Picture: Nigel Howard A murder hunt was launched today after a businessman was pushed into the path of a lorry while fighting off a gang of robbers. Father-of-two Shammi Atwal, 44, was shoved into the road as he struggled against a group of up to ten raiders armed with a sledgehammer and metal bars. The attempted robbery at his company, Glenn & Co drinks warehouse in Barking, took place at around 10.20 am yesterday. The company boss died after the impact with the truck and a post mortem is due to be held later today. Death: Shammi Atwal, 44, was shoved into the road in the path of a truck His wife, Deepa who witnessed the raid, suffered minor injuries and was said by family to be "devastated". Detectives paid tribute to the bravery of Mr Atwal saying he was defending his wife and his business. They are appealing for information on the gang, described as white men, who were armed with a sledgehammer and metal bars. Mr Atwal’s uncle Tarsem Singh, 65, described his nephew today as an "honourable hard working family man." He said: "He worked very very hard and the rest of the time was spent with his family or at the Seikh temple. "He had a good business because he was dedicated. He did charity work at the Seikh temples in Ilford and Barking. He would help anyone out. He will be so missed by so many people. He was very honourable and one of the nicest people you could meet and a wonderful father." Mr Atwal's friends today spoke of their shock while paying tribute to his heroism. Friend and former colleague, Sohan Hare, 65, said: “I’m very shocked, horrified and sad that a good man like this, who was trying to do the right thing, has gone. "He was a very hard worker for his family who was a very close friend and this is so unfortunate. He was loved by everyone.“It’s absolutely terrible. He was a very energetic, very peaceful and a very decent man who would help anybody and everybody in the community.” He added: “Some people went there who then tried to rob them, then there was a fight between the two sides, between the robbers and the people who were in [Glenn and Co], and the fight went from inside to outside. He (Mr Atwal) was pushed into the road and into the lorry. It was about ten people who tried to rob it I think.” Investigation: Police at the scene in Barking Picture: Nigel Howard Mr Atwal, from Manor Road, Chigwell, has a daughter and son, aged four and seven. He co-owned Glenn and Co, a wholesale distributor of beers, wines, ales and snacks, and supplies several local pubs, for seven years. Detective Chief Inspector Neale Baldock, who is leading the murder inquiry, said: “This was a man trying to stop thieves robbing his business. “He acted bravely in defence of his wife and managed to chase the robbers from his premises only for him to be pushed in front of a moving lorry. “People in the community know who committed this appalling and cowardly crime and I would urge them to contact my officers.” Alan Suleyman, a neighbouring trader, said: “He got robbed, then he got run over, which I heard happened after [Mr Atwal] went after one of the robbers. It’s absolutely shocking. We have had robberies here before but this is unbelievable.” Another trader, who wished not to be named, said: “I drove past not so long after it happened and there was a guy laying under the back of a lorry behind lots of police, so that’s when I knew it was really bad.” They were unable to confirm if the robbers escaped with any stock. It is understood that Mrs Atwal's purse was taken. There have been no arrests. A cordon was set up with the road remaining closed until late last night. Witnesses should call 020 8345 1570 or Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555111.

Tensions Rise as Multiple Attacks Launched Against Sikhs Across IndiaBy: Sikh24 Editors GUJARAT, India (October 8, 2013)News reports of Sikhs being attacked in Gujarat and Delhi have created shockwaves in the Sikh community living worldwide. As per media reports, a Sikh family living in Loria village of Bhuj district of Gujarat was attacked by a mob yesterday. Four male members of the Sikh family were left critically injured and were admitted to a local district hospital. In a statement, one of the injured, Amandeep Singh said that at least 30 armed men had attacked him and his family members who were sowing crops during the day. According to him, several shots were even fired in the air. Along with Amandeep Singh, the brutal attack also injured Angrej Singh, Jaswinder Singh and Harpreet Singh. All four were admitted under intensive care. Amandeep Singh alleged that he doesnt know what may have instigated the mobs. He alleged that the attackers wanted them to leave the farms and return to Punjab. Amandeep Singhs family has been living in Gujarat for over five decades and they were allotted the farming land back in 1960. It should be noted that the plight of Sikh farmers came to light recently when they blamed the local Government for refusing to allow them to purchase land. In another incident, a Sikh family in the Rohini area, Sector 3, Delhi, was attacked by a group of 7-8 young men in what seems to be a well-planned attack. The attackers brutally injured an elderly Sikh lady causing jaw injuries. They used a sharp blade to slit her wrist, but luckily she has survived the attack. Her husband was also brutally injured. The elderly Sikh man was held from his beard and his turban was removed. The attackers allegedly kicked him and his turban. They used racial slurs to abuse the elderly Sikh husband and wife. The attackers alleged that they are going to repeat 1984 once again as the Sikhs have forgotten their past carnage in the City. The main attacker, who was named Mukesh, is said to have good relations with the local police SHO and a local judge or Rohini court. He is said to have carried out similar attacks on Sikhs and others in the same neighborhood. Due to his political influence, no case has yet been registered against him. http://www.sikh24.com/2013/10/tensions-rise-as-multiple-attacks-launched-against-sikhs-across-india/#.UlSh4WS9Kc0

Is it breaking rehit to wear an 3XL helmet on a street bike or chopper? I ask because you still have to wear one here.

I have seen many sikhs, and all over the internet...going all against Islam, Muhammad, Muslim and stuff. I was just thinking about this...why is this? Due to our history, have we become anti-Muslim? Or we have some sort of inferiority/superiority complex towards Muslims? Believe me, if a Muslim lad gets married to a Sikh kuri, everyone loses their mind..while Goreh have been marrying our girls for decades and you don't see even 10% of the reaction that you would see a Muslim munda marrying our kuri... Then you would see people aligning themselves (intentionally/unintentionally) with Christians/missionaries in their anti-Islamic efforts. Christian missionaries are lying snake...they go into a country to subjugate and westernized that land..read history..their criticisms of Muslims/Islam are also based on myths, bias, lies, manipulation, hatred, sense of superiority, and so on...just like their criticisms of sikhi, hinduism etc.... Rather than strengthening our faith in sikhi, we seek refuge of dishonest missionaries would hate Islam as much as they hate us... Why this situation? Our inferiority-complex or simple hatred?

Greetings to all, My name is Jaginder Singh and I am an independent film maker based in Perth, Western Australia. Post 9/11, there have been many hate crimes (retaliatory) attacks on Muslims and persons that are assumed to be Muslims. I now hate flying as they "randomly" make me jump the hoops to get through security (not that I am saying security if unimportant) but, I know that the inconvenience that I face is nothing compared to what some others may have to endure on a regular basis just because they are Muslims or even look like a Muslim. This thought has always been in my mind but I when I read about the massacre in Wisconsin I felt extremely distraught. I remember feeling the same way during the attacks on 9/11. A sinking feeling of disgust and indescribably hurt. Don't let my name or my words fool you, I am not even remotely religious but I felt I was attacked too. I feel the need to document this controversial issue but I had other projects then. Now a year later, I am about to embark on my latest project, a documentary about mistaken identity and racial profiling. I do however, have a dilemma on what would be the most apt tittle for my documentary. This where I need your insight as a community/sangat. Should I call it *Dude, I am not a Muslim* or *Dude, I am not a terrorist* What's in the name you may ask? A lot. If we were to call it the former, one may be accused of alienating Muslims though the intention is to shed light on the fact that you not all colored people are Muslims and not all Muslims are colored people. Focus will fall on the turbaned Sikhs as they have the uncanny resemblance to terrorism's most famous poster boy, Osama bin Laden (at least to a layman). It would be controversial and intriguing hence more bums on the seat hence may possible attract more investors, something every indie film maker struggles with. Of course, there would be a segment about peace loving Muslims as well for it is not my intention to portray Muslim as terrorist. The latter may be more politically correct and the focus would be that not all Muslims are terrorist and also the subject above which is not all colored people are Muslims. We would still do segments of turbaned Sikhs and attacks on non Muslims and Muslims alike. I hope I am making sense and that everyone can freely voice the opinion or even disgust (?). I have created 2 FB pages for this reason, feel free to drop by and check them out too. https://www.facebook.com/dudeiamnot https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dude-I-am-not-a-Muslim/690950187585172 Jinder Perth

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