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  1. Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh! Sangat Ji, the reason I have started this topic is to allow sangat Ji to give their views/opinions/reviews on dastaar (i.e. size, material, style/type, tips & techniques). Even though I know there are many post regarding the dumalla or dastaar, I thought it would be great if we are able to have all questions/queries and answers under one post (help me especially). Few questions for example: What material is best for dumalla/dasaar and Why? Length of your/common dumalla/dastar? Experience you have gained from learning to tie your dumalla/dastaar? Tips and techniques? Recommended shop to purchase material (include shop contact details)? Your first time experience from wearing a dumalla/dastaar? And many more....... I hope with Guru's Kirpa this benefits sangat new and old with dumalla/dastaar based question?
  2. So I recently got a lot of new dastars from India but the dastar fabric just isn't coming out right is there a special way I should wash the fabrics or???
  3. what happened to this topic? it seem to have got deleted???
  4. Changing face of Sikh Society Who is a real Sikh (Singh and kaur) ? To Whom should we call Sikh NOW? Why Sikh girls want clean shaven to marry? Wha'ts wrong with the Singh of GURU ? Why we are making 12th guru ? Are Sikh lost trust in them> Why Newly Singh don't wanna live in Punjab ? Why they always go out of india to settle ? What makes singh to cut their hairs ? Are Sikh girl ashame of Singh's Appearance ?
  5. Curious, have you ever ordered a dastaar online? Why or why not? I'm starting an online dastaar company and would love your input. If you want to learn more, sign up here: http://bit.ly/sikhturbans
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    Hello everybody I have a question, and I would love to get everybodys opinion. I´m a sikh girl living in europe, I am not Amritdhari. Lately I have been wanting to start using turban, not everyday to begin with, but sometimes a week. The problem is that I am scared to offend other sikhs, because; 1. I am not Amritdhari 2. I cut my hair(got long hair, just cut the tip of the hair every 6th week) and I fix my eyebrows 3. I eat meat 4. Sometimes I wear revealing clothes, like i show my shoulders and the bottom of my legs (under the knee), swim with bikini I do understand that I can´t wear revealing clothes when using the turban, but I don´t think I`m going to stop showing my shoulders and legs when I´m not wearing the turban. I might eat meat while wearing the turban as well, cause its just a naural part of my diet every day. However, I know alot of guys who are drinking, smoking and cutting their beard while wearing turban, so it can`t be any difference between a girl and a boy? I don`t drink, smoke or do drugs, I don`t walk around with boys doing nasty things. So I do think I am right in using turban, but I´m a little confused. Are sikhs or even God going to be offended by me wearing a turban? Any help? :happy2:
  7. VJKK VJKF Sat Sangat Ji, I have a question I would like to ask about shaster in a dumalla. It is a quick question and I hope some singhs or kaurs out their can shed shed some light on it. I have heard old stories about nihangs in battle where they would take the weapons out of their dumalle and use them in battle. I can see how one would take off a chakram but how about a kirpaan. Is their a certain way you must tie the kirpaan into the dastaar? I have this question because I have tried experimenting tieng a kirpaan into my dumalla but whenever I try and take it out it always messes up the lar or it takes too long to get out. Now, in the battlefield, say you dropped your sword and you couldnt reach it for whatever reason, you would have to take that weapon out of your dastaar fast or your dead. So i was wondering if anyone can post an explanation, video, etc. that explains how Nihangs did this. Thank you, VJKK VJKF
  8. I cannot copy and paste the article but here is the full article http://singhstation.net/2014/04/turban-is-a-cultural-tradition-for-sikhs-and-has-nothing-to-do-with-religion-says-sikh-council-of-australia Brief summary: The Secretary of the SIkh Council of Australia Bawa Singh Jagdev was interviewed by writer of a News Herald on Sikhs and their identity of the turban. He goes on and states how the turban is a cultural tradition and has to do nothing with our religion. This was apparently the same Singh back in 2007 who said no to kirpans in school. Its people like him who give spread false agenda and are still given a position in the Sikh Council.
  9. Hi it would be a great help if I could get some response in regards to these questions. I'm writing my Dissertation paper on the turban. 1. what does the turban represent for you personally? 2. How does the pagh determine your personality? (if it doesn't why?) 3. How does it construct your physical appearance? (by wearing a pagh how do you perceive yourself and how do others look at you) 4. whats the style of your pagh? (the way its tied, the style, the colour significance) and why? 5. Is it a cultural and or religious purpose and why? 6. Is there any gender distinctions(differences) in wearing and tieing a pagh? (For example through my observations I noted most men wear a pagh [not necessarily religious] whereas women only wear it for religious reasons, and they mostly cover the pagh with a chunni where as men do not.) What is your take on this difference? All responses and opinions are non judgemental. I would like genuine opinions rather than a definition or generalisations. So feel free to be expressive! :D
  10. There are quite a few threads on this forum about the troubles of dating with a turban and beard. Most of these discussions deteriorate into guys taking their frustrations out by bashing Punjabi girls for not wanting to be with keshdari males. I came across a post on reddit that tackles this issue from a slightly different angle. I will post the relevant bit: "Hey guys and gals, I'm a Sikh guy, wear a turban and have a fully grown beard. I live in Canada and am 20 years old. I have quite a few friends who are also turban-wearing Sikhs, and the one thing I am accustomed to hearing on an almost daily basis is "girls won't go out with me because I am a keshdari". That is all I ever hear, not only from my own friends, but on every Sikh forum online, there are hoards of Sikh guys who complain about not being able to get a girlfriend because they wear a turban and sport a beard. This is for any guy on reddit who complains about this issue, and for anyone who knows a guy like that in real life, I say, you need to slap some sense into him by showing him this post. The turban and the beard are not the reason you can't get girls. It is your lowly perception of yourself. You have no self confidence, you freak out every time you talk to a female because you are worried she doesn't like your turban/beard and you are a social klutz. Most keshdari males in the west spend their time hanging out with other keshdari guys, or other Indian men in general. You have very little experience socializing with members of other races, and especially with members of the opposite sex. That is the problem. You got no game. How do you fix it? Become social, talk to people you normally wouldn't talk to, develop your social skills, and watch your life change for the better. Secondly, most turban + beard guys I know are not physically attractive. No, it is NOT the beard and turban that are responsible for it. Most of you don't work out, and quite a few (maybe even majority) have really let yourselves go, and have developed huge guts. Get your behind into the gym, lose weight if you're fat, build muscle if you're skinny. If I was a girl, I wouldn't want to date most of you either, because you don't take care of yourselves. Sikhi says to treat your body like your temple, how on earth have you allowed your temple to become so desecrated? Stop eating allu de parathai, samosai, gulab jaman, eat good, wholesome, nutritious food, get in the gym, lift, your testosterone will increase, your confidence will increase, and so will your success with the ladies. Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, STOP LIMITING YOURSELF TO PUNJABI GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!!!! For Pete's sake, most guys I know who complain about this are the ones who ONLY go for Punjabi kudis. The world is your oyster my friend, there's wonderful girls out there who will accept you for who you are and are not Indian-descent. In fact, from my own experiences and what I have heard from friends, non-Punjabi girls actually respect the turban and beard more than Punjabi girls do. If you are proud to be keshdari, then they will respect you for it. When I ask most guys why they are wearing a turban, they'll tell me "because my parents made me". When pressed further about why their parents made them, they say "because it is a part of the religion". But they don't know WHY Sikhs wear turbans. That is the problem. FFS man, learn your own history! It is legendary what our ancestors went through to protect our dharam. It is teeming with stories of epic battles, sacrifice and determination. No other religion has ever had to face even half the crap we did to survive and preserve our beliefs. It was keshdari Sikhs who destroyed Mughal rule in Punjab, 21 keshdari Sikhs who held off an army of 10,000 Afghans for over 7 hours until reinforcements arrived. Confidence comes from being sure of who you are. Understand why you wear a turban, and the thousands of brave men and women who wore it before you, and you won't give a damn about what any woman thinks. If some immature Punjabi girl has no respect for your turban, that's her loss. A lot of them have forgotten that when Punjabi women were getting kidnapped left, right and center by Persian forces, and being taken to Iran to be sold in the sex-trade industries, it was turbaned Sikh men who went after them, fought enemies umpteenth times larger than themselves, won, and brought the women back safe and sound to their families. Any girl that rejects you solely for your turban isn't worth the time, even if she's Punjabi. Most of them are going to be fat aunties in 20 years time anyways, then they'll be paying guys to give them the time of day. My girlfriend is white, my brother is married to a Chinese lady, who is absolutely wonderful, and has complete respect for Sikhi and the turban. If you respect your turban, others will too. I've got a handful of friends (all keshdari) dating white girls and Asian (Chinese mostly) girls. I've got family in the USA, a few of my cousins are with Latinas. All are socially confident, all work out, none limited themselves to just Punjabi girls. That's my rant. I'm tired of keshdari guys complaining about how girls don't give you the time of day, it makes us all look like insecure, needy, weak boys who do not deserve any woman in the first place. Cutting your hair isn't going to make you a success with the ladies if you are out of shape and socially demented. On the other hand, I have known the most athletic, outgoing keshdari brothers get rejected time and time again by girls just because they had the turban. And each time, the girl was Punjabi. Face it dude, there are girls out there who are not attracted to the look, and there's nothing you can do about it. But there are a lot more girls out there than you think who don't give a damn about how big your facial hair is or what you have on your head, and a lot, if not the majority of these girls, are not Punjabi. STOP LIMITING YOURSELF! I leave you with one last question: If Dwayne The Rock Johnson converted to Sikhi today, grew out his beard and stuck on a turban, would he have any less success with the ladies? I rest my case." Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/Sikh/comments/1ggy25/dating_with_turban_and_beard/ Most respondents agreed with what he said, the support was almost unanimous. My thoughts? I think he hit the nail on the head. I disagree with the bit about Punjabi girls all turning into fat aunties, I think that was uncalled for, but other than that, he makes very valid points (imo). Keshdaris stick with other keshdaris and/or Indian men, so have little experience interacting with people of other races, and because of Punjabi culture, are discouraged from talking to women. I've been to quite a few Gurdwaras in my time, the one thing I noticed over and over again was a lack of aesthetics amongst the more religious members of our community, doesn't matter if they were young or old. Now, this isn't always, the case, I workout, most of my friends (keshdari) workout, a lot of guys posting in the comments section of that post said they do as well, and I'm sure a lot of guys on here do too. But what I have noticed is that, while we are supposed to be saint-soldiers, most of us focus too much on the "saint" aspect and not enough on the "soldier" portion. I also agree with what he said about Punjabi (NOT SIKH) girls, the average Punjabi girl these days doesn't really care much for Sikhi, so dating out of the race is probably a good idea. Thoughts? Yay or nay?
  11. I notice that Sikh women and girls wear turbans in a distinctive style then Sikh Men. How come most Sikh women won't wear turban styles that the overwhelming majority of Sikh men wear? Amrit Singh
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  13. "How to Beautiful Tie a Turban" this time I have decrease the speed of Video, so that one can learn step by step how to tie a turban. Dastar Singh de Pehchan ta Dastar Singh Di Shaan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqOJvpdHn5gg
  14. As a Sikh can understand if this question angers you, and I do not want to cause any disrespect to anyone or their ideals. That being said however, as I have grown and developed my own understanding of Sikhism, and tried to embrace its principles, I can't find a good answer to this question. For the sake of complete clarity, the reason I am asking these questions is because I am thinking of cutting my hair, and would like to know if there is any reason to keep it. If the reason is because "god" wants us to do so, well that seems very contradictory to Sikhism and its definition of god. I thought god was an indescribable being with no emotion and no love or hate. He wants all humans to be treated equally and fairly, and this is why we try to treat everyone as equals. Why then, would he care what we look like? How long our hair is? If the reason is because Guru Gobind Ji wanted stand out, and it has become part of our identity, then this reason makes slightly more sense to me but I still have issues with it. Why should we be defined by what we look like? A Sikh is supposed to be a good, fair and kind person. This, I feel, should be a Sikh's identity, not what he or she wears on their heads. These two are the only reasons I could think of for keeping my hair, but they dont make sense to me anymore. More than that I have reasons to not keep it long anymore. These reasons are not because of how I look (I think my beard and turban have a lot of swag actually), and not because of anything anyone has said to me (most people are accepting and awesome, the few who aren't should be ignored). My reasons for not wanting to keep my hair are rooted in the fact that I see no reason to objectify my faith in what I believe in. I don't like gifts on birthdays, I don't ever feel the need to proclaim anything strong about my identity, as I believe people should learn who I am over time. Then why should this turban and beard be the only exception to this rule? To also be totally clear and truthful, yes, I think it would be cool to try on different hairstyles over time, the same way I try on different clothing styles. Moreover, I believe I am a very logical person. I see no need to keep my hair long (based on what you've read above) and see one or two reasons to cut it. If you've made it this far into reading what I have to say, I really thank you and would love your opinion. In short: Do you keep your hair long? What are your reasons? Did you cut yours? Why did you feel like you needed to cut it Thanks a lot everyone, and hopefully we can keep this cordial and not infringe on each others beliefs.
  15. http://www.guardian.co.uk/fashion/fashion-blog/2013/jul/11/turban-sikh-men-fashion-streets Whats your views on this?
  16. Series of reports including Le Devoir and several radio stations reporting this, also a press release issued that includes names of 'author and religious authority' as well as Sikh temple leader. What is this???? http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.ledevoir.com/sports/soccer/380779/vingt-equipes-de-soccer-ontariennes-privees-d-un-tournoi-a-montreal&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dledevoir%2Bbikram%2Blamba%26biw%3D871%26bih%3D555 PRESS RELEASE http://www..org/newspics/2013/06%20June%202013/15%20June%2013/15%20June%2013%20Traitor%20Bikram%20Lamba.htm Radio Broadcasts (Bikram Lamba) THESE RADIO BROADCASTS ARE BEING SENT TO ALL MEDIA and PROPAGATED ON TWITTER !! http://tinyurl.com/l39f6cu http://tinyurl.com/n3mmtk9
  17. racist quebec is at it again.......just like france MONTREAL -- The Quebec Soccer Federation has decided its ban on turbans will stay. In a decision released Sunday following a Saturday board meeting, the QSF said referees in Quebec must continue to enforce a prohibition on the wearing of turbans, including patkas and keksi. It's the only minor soccer league in the country where the ban is upheld. Soccer leagues across Canada permit Sikhs to play with their religious head coverings. The World Sikh Organization of Canada issued a statement Sunday saying it was “deeply saddened” by the decision and that it will continue to fight the ban in Quebec. FIFA, the international governing body of soccer, doesn't specifically prohibit the turban. http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-soccer-federation-bans-turbans-in-games-1.1307772
  18. This guy Param Singh doesn't stop! Still doing media interviews and biggin himself up after appearing on Take Me Out. He was on BBC WM last night ... this time he flapped after being questioned by Jay Singh-Sohal the author of the new "Turbanology: Guide to Sikh Identity" book. Check it out - SCROLL TO 1:14 ON SHOW PARAM SINGH FROM TAKE ME OUT MUST LISTEN TO INTERVIEW http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p012t626
  19. A young Sikh ties his turban in front of a mirror. (adapted photo from Turban King) March 21, 2013: Gurmun Singh is a young Sikh high school student in California who just this week wore a full turban at school for the first time. He was nice enough to share his thoughts about his experience on this blog. Thank you and congratulations, Gurmun! I was born in New York, but now I live in California. I am 14 years old and I go to Sheldon High School as a freshman. I decided to wear a dastaar (turban) on Wednesday because I felt like I was sooner or later going to start wearing one to school, and this gave me a try out to how it would feel like. I was actually excited to wear one because it would show people a different side of how things really are. When I tied it, I felt like this was how it was meant to be. I felt like I should really begin to wear a dastaar everywhere now and not just to some places. When I showed up to school, people were surprised. They were saying that it looked nice, and many were asking that why was I wearing a bigger one? Are you now “upgrading” turbans? Teachers were like wow, you are looking like a real Sikh with a turban on, and students were like WOW, how does it feel to wear it, how long is the cloth, aren’t you sweaty in it? Many weird questions came up and I responded to all of them with seriousness and some laughter. I would say to students that I feel great wearing a dastaar and that I loved every bit of it. During school, it felt great that I was able to just wear it around and have people look in curiosity and I loved every bit of it! At the end of the day, I felt that everything went great and that I would wear it again next time. I plan to start wearing it later in the years of high school, but for now, I loved wearing it to school. When I put on the dastaar, to me, it felt like I was able to show the school what a turban really is and how a Sikh really looks like, because of the whole misunderstanding of Sikhs looking like terrorists because of their turbans. I felt like my dastaar educated people in a way! A dastaar is a token/crown given by the Gurus and being able to actually wear the crown just gives such a better feeling to a person. I also got many Punjabis at my school to wear dastaars too. It was just amazing! By the end of the day, I felt that many people became educated about turbans and who Sikhs are. At the end of the day, I went to the Gurdwara and did Ardaas that Waheguru gives me the courage to wear a dastaar again and again to school and everywhere else without any hesitation. March 25, 2013 by American Turban Guest Contributor Source: americanturban.com
  20. Walk a mile in a Sikh’s turban Thursday at University of Guelph Preetam Singh, 20, describes his religious conviction as a love affair with God. The University of Guelph student is helping to organize the Sikh Students' Association's Sikh Awareness Day on Thursday. Non-Sikhs will get the opportunity to experience what it is like to wear turban. Rob O'Flanagan/Mercury staff GUELPH—A Sikh’s turban, or dastar, is a symbol of religious devotion and a mark of personal courage. It and other elements of customary Sikhi dress distinguish followers of the religion from others in Canadian society, and that distinction is not without challenges. The Sikh Student Association at the University of Guelph will hold a Sikh Awareness Day on Thursday, giving non-Sikhs an opportunity to experience what it is like to wear a turban. The event is patterned after others on Canadian campuses aimed at familiarizing Canadians with Sikh beliefs and inviting them to experience both the highs and lows of wearing the dastar. Preetam Singh, 20, was a striking figure over the weekend on the U of G campus, wearing flowing dark bana—traditional attire—with his high, dark blue dastar covering his uncut hair, and a kirpan—dagger—strapped to this hip. “As soon as I walk in a room I have people’s attention,” Singh said. “It gives me the opportunity to teach people something about my faith.” The Sikhi way of life, he added, has timeless and holistic qualities. While the rules, ethics and customs of society are constantly changing, the teachings of the faith remain stable. His religion, he said, is a love affair, and one he entered into of his own volition at the age of 13. “I think of it as falling in love,” said the U of G history student. “You don’t choose who you fall in love with, or when you are going to fall in love. You have no power over it. I never thought that I was going to be as religious as I am now.” As with other religions, Sikhs strive to be constantly mindful of the presence of God in their day-to-day lives. It’s a devotional ambition to which Singh is committed. “Everyday is a challenge to make yourself better,” he said. “It’s never good enough. You always have to work for something more, to try harder and strive for higher ideals. Ideals are perfection and we are imperfect as human beings.” Being easily identifiable as an adherent to a particular faith, he said, puts an onus of responsibility upon a Sikh. “As a Sikh I know that people know immediately that I am different, that I am religious,” he said. “If someone knows that I am a Sikh then I am representing the Sikh faith. All my actions represent the Sikh faith—what I say, what I do, how I act. It gives you a lot of responsibility, and I have to really strive to put the Sikh faith in a better light.” Sikhs do face overt discrimination because of their appearance, Singh said. Mass media, he said, has associated the wearing of a turban with perpetrators of terrorist acts, and that negative and unfair association has been applied to Sikhs. “I think it is very important for us to propagate the wearing of the turban, and to have people know the difference between the Sikh religion and other religions, and why we wear a turban,” Singh said. “It is a show of peace.” The Sikh religion—the term Sikhism is not proper—began in the late 1400s in the Punjab region of India. It has no clergy. The faith promotes the equality of all human beings, social justice, the removal of superstition and blind ritual from religious life, earning an honest living, and circumventing worldly desires and sin. There are about 20 million Sikhs worldwide, and it is estimated there are more than 300,000 in Canada. To be a part of the Khalsa, or collective body of the faith, one must wear five kakars, or articles of faith, on their person, including uncut hair, a wooden comb, a metal bracelet, special cotton undergarments, and the dagger. Thursday’s Sikh Awareness Day, sponsored by the Sikh Student Association, runs throughout the day in the University Centre and is a chance to “walk in the shoes of a Sikh for one day.” roflanagan@guelphmercury.com [www.guelphmercury.com]
  21. Hello, My question is what do you do if you are involved in a fight and your turban falls off , or the 'enemy' tries to rip it off? What would you ? Would you fight and dont care if your hair is seen? Take it off by yourself and wouldnt give him the chance to take it off? Run away? Please some serious thoughts - because this can happen everywhere and everytime . I mean if someone else sees your hair, what would you do/think/react?
  22. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=PCtst1-hy5c&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPCtst1-hy5c
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