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  1. Today I see many people mix Punjabi culture things with sikhi. Like I personally think that Bhangra, giddha and other things like this aren’t related to sikhi and aren’t allowed for Sikh to do. People need to understand that being Punjabi is different than being a Sikh. Do u guys think that Bhangra and giddha r forbidden in sikhi?? I wanna hear sum more people’s vichar in this
  2. Remembering my youth days having taken Amrit at 17, I was extremely uptight and thought "The world is wrong..." At 25 I eased up a little. Not a lot but a little. So, things that matter to Amritdhari... Amrit must be taken by Panj Pyaare, 5 k's MUST be kept on at all times Doing seven Baania is a MUST (Japji and Jaap before consuming ANYTHING) but we as Sikhs do Panj baania before breakfast. Sangat, Simran and Seva is a huge must. Simran / paat everyday. Only bow down before SGGS. Giving up five vices. Keep away from the 4 major sins. Now to focus on IT'S OKAY It's okay to have dhoof or jot in the house. It's okay to enjoy life. Have a good laugh. Know others views are different. For the purpose of studying, Reading and studying SGGS online, despite Angs are over / below 1429 Walk in Mosque / Mandhir for wedding venue/ funeral. Seeing a Sikh walking in / out McDonald's. Listening to music. I guess what am saying is... EASE UP a little bit. Learn to be a Sikh and ask yourself... The world is wrong, it has problems, but what have I done myself? I had 4 hours did I spend 1.5 hours doing Simran? I walked by Gurudwara but did I stop by to matha teek? So taking it easy and self reflection will get u far. But not reflecting and crying over others, will get u nowhere. If you read the Jeevan of ANY saints in Sikhi, none of them ever got irritated or upset. They knew the world is wrong but first they sorted themselves out, then they dealt / gave Giaan to others. Minimum 6 months practice you too can be on that pathway. Have u kept the 5 vices at bay? Have you been observing Amritvela? Had you FOCUSED on Seven Baanias? With help of YouTube / Google are we reading the Translation of the Gurbania? So our mann can follow whas being said?
  3. Surprising, but oh well, good news if the survey was done properly. SUMMARY Around 82 per cent Sikh youngsters pray regularly or sometimes even if there is no festival being celebrated. The corresponding figure was 74 per cent for Christians, 72 per cent for Muslims, 69 per cent for Hindus and 46 per cent for others. Around 86 per cent Sikh youngsters visited a place of worship (gurudwara) even when there was no festival, compared to 57 per cent each for Hindus and Christians and 56 per cent for Muslims. The share of Sikh youth drawn towards TV channels showing religious programming has gone up from the previous round of the survey, which is opposite to the trend observed across all other communities. In 2016, 73 per cent Sikhs reported watching religious shows on TV, which has risen to 82 per cent this year. On comedy movies on religious leaders, 85 per cent Sikhs supported a ban, followed by 65 per cent Christians, 49 per cent Hindus and 36 per cent Muslims. Here too, more Muslims opposed (46 per cent) such a ban than those who supported it. https://theprint.in/india/82-sikh-youth-pray-regularly-highly-religious-compared-to-others-shows-csds-lokniti-survey/784879/
  4. Modern-day sikhs/singhs aren't warriors, which is a shame. Most of the actual sikhs in Canada especially are soft as they come, they don't exercise, know how to fight, or stand their ground, instead they're pushovers, and I'm talking about the Sikhs who were born and raised in Canada they're either fat or really skinny with no muscle allowing them to become targets of bullying and crime, not only that they also lack confidence which is something every singh needs, as they should be brave and stand up for others. We need to start making sikh youth work out from a early age and get them on a diet, make them work out and take fighting classes, it's not even just the youth, some adults are also lacking muscle and strength. How are you expected to defend your faith and the people around you, if you aren't built to do so? They carry kirpans but can't even use them properly lol. It's kinda ironic considering how the non-sikh punjabi people (the fakes) are the ones with the "lion courage"
  5. I just wanted to make my first post here because this has been playing on my mind for a while now. I feel like Sikhi Kirtan does not have the same passion I hear from other religious musical pieces, and as a result its not inspiring young people. I feel like the popular Kirtans are easy, dull, follows Bollywood/punjabi tunes and therefore lacks originality/identity/spiritualism. I have been listening to Islamic sufi music, Christian hymns and Hindu Kirtans - which I find all sound different and beautiful in their own way. With Sufi music drawing me in the most - even Bollywood adaptations like 'Kun Faya Kun' sound beautiful. With young people, I don't expect Kirtan to modernise, it doesn't need to. Indian Classical Music is and will always remain timeless, if played with passion, dedication and training, then you can draw in anyone no matter where you live. This is why Ravi Shankar and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan broke internal barriers. Unfortunately most of the kirtan tunes these days sound like outdated Indian/punjabi pop music It doesn't help that only Sikhs can play kirtans in many Gurdwaras around the world. Collaboration inspires creativity - isn't that was sikhism was about? Openness to all? Here is a kirtan I think is nicely composed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHJtedXR5v4
  6. Any Sikh A cappella fans!? Check out this group from UBC Vancouver. Young Sikh representation with an AMAZING solo performance!! The YouTube video is linked below. Feel free to share and also check out Instagram. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH5b4hllf4A Instagram: @ubcnwc
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    Respect for Elders

    I think that a firm concept in every world dharam is respect for elders. It is also the baseline value on which all civil and peaceful societies and cultres are built. When there is respect for elders, I think, the society goes to hell. And this is what I am increasingly witnessing in capitalistic societies, and the sikh people in them (not just the youth). What does respect for elders mean? It means putting them at the top as the authority, not disrepecting them, but showing them consideration and obedience. So who are these elders?: 1. You parents. After God and Guru, these are the most important authorities for you. You should not deceive them, disrespect them in anyway, do anything they would no approve of or do anything in public or secret that you know would hurt them or make you feel ashamed. You should listen to them and work to please them at all times. When they are elderly, you should always do you best to make them comfortable and take care of them. 2. Your grandparents and elder relatives. These people are part of your family. After your parents, they should be heeded and respected. Be kind to your grandparents, as they may feel ignored or uncared for. that isn't right. 3. Your teachers. These people are trying to help you learn. You should treat them with consideration and respect. Don't talk while they are talking or show them any bad attitude. Listen to what they are trying to tell you and sincerely try and follow their instructions and requests and guidance. Do all your work with attention and care including your homework. These doesn't just apply to school kids, the same applies to people at universities, or in classes like martial arts or other learning situations. Knowledge should also be respected. 3. All bazurg (elderly people). These people should be treated with consideration kindness and respect. If you see one in difficulty, be kind and offer them help. Even if they are rude to you, don't be rude back. Smile at elderly people who look sad or troubled and respectfully say hello. 4. People with more knowledge or life experience in a any field of life than you. You shouldn't be arrogant when they people try to tell or teach you something. Don't be judgemental. For example you may be highly educated but that doesn't mean you can't learn something from a road sweeper. 5. Your managers/ superiors at work. These people are trusting you with your work. If you don't do you work properly it reflects badly on them. Also, they may be suffering from stress. Be kind to them. 6. people older than you by at least 5 or 10 years, people put in charge of you. 7. Generally any person older than you.
  8. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ji. Upon seeing a forum, I decided to get the sangat opinion too. I myself am a teen. I am 15. I love to go to gurdwara camps because you get a lot a laha and you get to learn how to be a better person. I am speaking about youths in my country Malaysia. When I go to camps, I speak to many people. They all become my friend. I am not sure of the male gender tho but I have a few guys and girls asking me if I am single or if I have a crush on someone or if I would like to be in a relationship. I always say to them that I am not here to find a partner and I am very very opposed with this type of thinking. I don't like it at all when I got to camps, only to find out the youth are interested in all nonsense about boyfriend and girlfriend and crush etc. ? There some amazing souls too that I meet during these camps. Some youth like me also do sewa and come to camp to build a stronger relationship with guru maharaj. I am very blessed to have met these type of youth too. Probably I have matured thinking. I don't know but sometimes it's upsetting that it's very rare I get the true sangat from going to camps. For an instance, in a camp I would have to mix around people my age ( in the teens) and I can't be sitting around people with the age of 20's above. It would look really odd. But maharaj does his kirpa and I always prefer sitting in the darbar rather than anywhere else because no one can disturb me there and many people avoid talking rubish in the darbar sahib because guru maharaj is watching them.what they don't realise is guru maharaj sees them everywhere, in the Langar hall or in the park. Writing this I have made a lot of mistakes, I am not good,no one is bad. Please forgive me sangat and teach me so that I can be a better person.
  9. Watched this video of old Indian movie starts with photos of back then and now. Youth is so short! When your young you often forget how short it is! you forget that one day you too are gnna be old! looking at these photos just got me thinking how short and fleeting it is! These people must of been worshiped during their golden years. Its important to remember that we are gnna get old and youth will not always last. Youth, beauty, friends, wealth etc it all goes at the end and only Naam and Waheguru ji stay with you
  10. I see lots of patka wearing boys into Sikhi up until about age 16. It’s like they are young and dumb (in a good way). Their mums tie their patka and it looks very smart, and bring them to the gurdwara regularly. But age 16 onwards what happens? First they tie their hair back with patka, then they tie African durags. It’s not uncommon to spot them wearing caps and topis. When the facial hair comes through it gets trimmed and shaped. Once 18 drinking and clubbing begins. Young and dumb (being innocent) gets replaced growing up, but what with? Is it fashion, bad sangat or something else? What are your thoughts? Because it’s a real shame. Some kids who were so into Sikhi young becoming what they become. It’s not all boys. Some tie really beautiful dumalas/dastars, let facial hair grow and follow Sikhi. Well done to them!
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    media brainwashing

    Here's a list of media brainwashing, in western countries, to make people aware of it and so wake up (and become immune to it), feel free to add your own observations: 1. to view all women (even young women/girls) as sex objects. from a young age the media tries to put the idea in males heads that any female should be sized up for sexual attractiveness 2. for all women to view themselves are sex objects. girls are taught from a young age that what others think of them and how much attention they get is a 'measure' of their 'worth'. any woman who does not want to put excessive attention into her gender or sexuality is seen as an antisocial freak. e.g. you can see how business wear sold to women is more based on 'looking pretty' than practicality. 3. that black guys are attractive/virile/masculine- i don't know if this is because the white media feels sorry for them or else white- guilt, but this is another idea that is pure media fabrication. i find it a little odd that 3/4 adverts on English tv depict white-woman/black-male couples. if someone is going to say that blacks have larger anatomy well then even if that was true, it would still be 1. black 2. attached to a black guy. so are you attracted to a person or a part of their bodies? 3. that wouldn't correlate to virility anymore than being tall would mean that someone would 'enjoy' sunbathing more. 4. that having an extra-marital affair is benign/ desirable/ prestigious /normal. to lust after a married person shows a severe lack of sense, and likewise for a married person to cheat on their own partner implies a clear lack of ethics. there is nothing 'sexy' about stabbing someone in the back, betraying someone's trust. you should think about the kind of character who would cheat on their spouse, and why then wouldn't they cheat on you? do you think you are someone so wonderful that they couldn't resist? the truth is they probably have insecurities, as do you for chasing a married person in the first place. 5. that being a 'virgin' is wrong/ to be looked down on or as a freak. firstly, virgins shouldn't have to label themselves or announce themselves as such, or else ' normal well adjusted well brought up person' would be a better title. maybe non-married non-virgins should be the ones who label themselves- as trash, antisocial, degenerate etc. (does not apply to rape victims, people genuinely taken advantage of and people who grew up in an environment where they were genuinely too stupid to know better). 6. that the sex depicted on tv, in films, in music is accurate. again false. most artists/actors are gays /lesbians, acting out an exaggerated scene written by poor writers, in front of a film crew.
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    Our sikh youth

    WGJKK WGJKF Whilst going through college and university, I have noticed a huge divide in our Sikh youth. I've seen many young Sikh men either go full cultural or full Sikhi. Women on the other hand, I rarely see any that truly follow Sikhi. I know one woman, 21 now who is dating an amrit shuk man in his 20s. She got personal and told me that they've had intimate relations and that it only took 4 days of them speaking for her to give him that intimacy (intercourse.. ). And she really shows interest in Sikhi but didn't truly see how wrong this was. And for the man, he said he was forced to shuk amrit, so that's pretty bad in itself as he has had various gfs and other stuff whilst amritdhari. Now if this woman is someone who goes gurdwara every weekend and shows genuine interest in Sikhi but still does panga like this, I am losing faith in humanity. The rest of the sikh women that i have met in my life, 95% of them are fully cultural with a drinking, clubbing and sexual lifestyle. Smoking, getting many tattoo's etc. Why aren't women going towards sikhi? Many men that I've met, although there's a lot of messed ones out there, I've met quite a few that took deep steps towards guruji and sikhi. Can't say the same about women. What can be done as a Panth? A lot of women don't even care or have any respect if you point things out like them posting stuff like smoking weed but having a khanda in their bio. Etc.
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    Women in sikh youth

    WGJKK WGJKF Whilst going through college and university, I have noticed a huge divide in our Sikh youth. I've seen many young Sikh men either go full cultural or full Sikhi. Women on the other hand, I rarely see any that truly follow Sikhi. I know one woman, 21 now who is dating an amrit shuk man in his 20s. She got personal and told me that they've had intimate relations and that it only took 4 days of them speaking for her to give him that intimacy (intercourse.. ). And she really shows interest in Sikhi but didn't truly see how wrong this was. And for the man, he said he was forced to shuk amrit, so that's pretty bad in itself as he has had various gfs and other stuff whilst amritdhari. Now if this woman is someone who goes gurdwara every weekend and shows genuine interest in Sikhi but still does panga like this, I am losing faith in humanity. The rest of the sikh women that i have met in my life, 95% of them are fully cultural with a drinking, clubbing and sexual lifestyle. Smoking, getting many tattoo's etc. Why aren't women going towards sikhi? Many men that I've met, although there's a lot of messed ones out there, I've met quite a few that took deep steps towards guruji and sikhi. Can't say the same about women. What can be done as a Panth? A lot of women don't even care or have any respect if you point things out like them posting stuff like smoking weed but having a khanda in their bio. Etc.
  14. i am 18 years old, pursuing computer engineering in a well reputed college in mumbai. i have always had cool friends and supporting parents. but, i've never been a staunch believer in religion. i always find religion to be pointless, following what some person(s) said/wrote hundreds or thousands or years ago and having to follow their rules and the way they want us to lead our lives just doesn't seem right to me at all. i've been smoking weed since a year, and quite regularly. my grades are not affected by,and i've not been as irritable i was since a long time. i never intended to let my parents know about me smoking pot, but nowadays the paranoia associated with weed is taking over the better of me sometimes because of the guilt i feel hiding it from my parents. i have many friends who smoke weed and all of them are really nice people, so why should what i do in my personal life be associated with my morality?i really feel smoking weed isn't bad for me but i don't wanna live in hiding from my parents.i am a turbaned sikh and my parents are really good role models, just that i do not believe in the same things as me. is there any way i can come off to them and tell them about me smoking the jane?
  15. Now that I am in the last of my 20's am already reflecting back on everything from my highlights to low lights. Unfortunately my Jeevan as a Sikh is in the low light. At 19 I thought "With Guru's grace I can reach a sant level by the time am 30!" YES it can happen before another year's up. I even thought I be married and a father before 30! But nah. Hopefully this year should be married but it's another hope. The amount of time I thought of doing sangat, simran and seva on a daily basis. Putting in 2.5 hours a day in extra prayers (exclude this time from 5 baanias)... It's been on and off but thas the problem. OFF! Off should not exist only ON. On for all 7 days. We all should reflect back once in a while on our Jeevan. Maybe your still in youth, 40, 50's or 70's! Are you where you are and where you thought you wanted to be in your spiritual life? Maybe you are? Share your story on here.
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    sikh morality code

    Hi. So I had this idea of putting together a 'morality code', initially for youth, but also for older sikhs we want to connect more with the religion and also for non-sikhs interested to learn. I want all the rules to be based on teachings of SGGS. Sort a basic moral guidance based in Gurbani. I invite you all to suggest alterations and additions. It would be good to have Gurbani quotes to go with the list, but I'm have not memorised SGGS well enough, so if anyone can help with that too, that would be good. Moral 'guides' for sikhs: 1. Always remember God/Gods name. This is a must. You can do this while living your day to day life. As per Gurbani, to do Naam Simran is to live, and to forget it is to die. The definition of maya is whatever makes you forget God. God and His Name are the same. You remember one, you remember the other. You can (and should) remember Him in a natural and unstrained manner. Remembering Him also means remembering He is nearby. The gradual aim is to remember Him with each breath and morsel of food and drink. 2. Always remember God's Will. What is Gods Will? It is the supreme power, by which everything happens. As per Gurbani, the definition of blindness is forgetting God's will. 3. Be an honest person. This means- don't tell lies, don't deceive people. Its doesn't that you have to walk down the road with a megaphone, announcing your deepest darkest secrets. But it means that you should not deceive people. Be one person, inside and out. Don't lead 'double lives'. If you are an adult, earn money honestly (not by cheating or slacking off your job). 4. Don't have any hatred. Instead of hatred, seek wisdom. 5. Don't have any fear, and don't put fear into anyone. Have faith in God instead. Not having fear does not mean getting into fights or climbing tall buildings or playing stupid 'dare' games- these things are actually the signs of fearful people battling repressed fears. 6. Don't slander or gossip about anyone. Avoid anyone who does. Do not mind if anyone slanders you, just see it as a cleansing exercise (gives you humility). 7. Avoid bad company. Remember that someone may seem religious externally, but may have bad characteristics. don't judge people by external appearances. 8. Avoid the five thieves/ demons- lust, anger, pride, enchantment (mohe) and greed. Recognise them for what they are- demons (that posses and drive people to do evil things they wouldn't otherwise do) and thieves (that steal people's wisdom, self-control and intelligence). 9. Show kindness (dayal) and forgiveness. 10. Believe that God exists and trust Him. 11. Follow Gurbani instead of precepts of mind (manmukhi). 12. Get up early. Keep God hygiene. Practise Naam Simran in a seated position, with concentration in the morning. 13. Show respect to your parents and your elders. Don't criticise them for their flaws. Don't deceive them, speak rudely to them. Show them consideration. Treat all elderly people like they are your grandparents. 14. Speak softly, and avoid bad language. Guru ji says talking filth is like putting filth into your mouth. Speak only truth, but do so in a kind manner. Know when it is better to keep quiet. 15. Have good hygiene, show respect for the body God has given you. Have a neat appearance. Keep a good posture. 16. Do all your work honestly, and work hard. 17. Remember the poor and needy and do something for them. E.g. give to the homeless. Give dasvand if you are earning money.
  17. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. I was just wondering (after spending some going through the pages of some Sikh Organisations/personalities on facebook and instagram) that what exactly does it take for a person to become a Sikh Parcharik. In the modern day, we have, sadly, limited young parchariks who are truly dedicated to Sikhi (in and out) and can set as role model to the panth themselves, especially the younger generations outside India. Anyway, I found many who do regular kirtan are not following rehat (not hating, no worries) even though they sing bani beautifully, while some camp organisers/helpers also do not seem to be following rehat. While they are doing sewa, the thing that made me ask about the requirements for a person to become a parcharik/start a sikh organisation or participate in committee is that: a few days ago, i was listening to katha and they mentioned about great parchariks (during Guru Arjan Dev Ji's time, if i am not wrong) who preached very beautifully to others but cried to guru ji because their life was very different from what they preached to people. So who can take up the sewa of parchar? Who should be handling Sikh Organisations and Committee, (or even Charities)?
  18. Seeing how young Sikhs of today are surrounded by so many different ideologies, religions, sexualities, etc in a very confusing world of competing idea's how would you raise your kids to learn and be proud Sikhs? Even if they do not take amrit or keep their unshorn hair, how would you instill that loyalty to sikhi and pride in them?
  19. I started this thread because I think we need to invest into Punjab and fix it, Punjab needs Literate youths, more education, more industries, destroyal of the caste system, we need to fix the Drug and Water Crisis, A excellent link to some videos have been sent to me in my messages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZKK3T484Kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwWHyVy2eJY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZhFTMeS22g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29XNCfwidMI And the same user made a great post about this problem in the Khalistan thread. What are some ways we can Fix Punjab, name some problems and solutions, some organizations that is fixing punjab, and we need to actually invest money and donate and help the cause instead of just talking about it on the forums, We together as a community can not only fix punjab and help the youth but we can make India and the Future a better place together!
  20. Educatetosave.com I recently attended a program and Bhai Veer Manpreet singh performed kirtan of very high quality. Searching his next venue, I was determined to reach on time for more. I may have been a bit blind to how we can all help alleviate the immediate dangers to Punjab population which are being highlighted in the media now. However after half an hour of a video show and a touching speech, the solution has been found in sponsoring education to the poor villages in Punjab. Baba Ji who runs Baru Sahib now has a plan for which he needs help from all of us - which if I am not wrong was providing 10,000 places all free to support children whose fathers may have committed suicide, or may have succumbed to alcohol and passed away at an early age. The truth brought tears to many eyes - it is very sad. The statistics of near extinction of the Sikh youth are very worrying. However if we all come together and support this charity by sponsoring a child for £25, we could make a great difference to the future of Punjab. A similar program will be held at Park Avenue - Sri Guru Singh sabha on the 18th of March. All proceeds will be donated to educatetosave.com - same as they were today. Baba Ji has achieved amazing results, I would say - in terms of what he has managed to do for poor families in India. His institutes have managed to create amazing kirtaniyas like Bhai veer Manpreet Singh Himself too who is an ex-student of Baru Sahib. Babaji is now well into his 90s and still has plans to continue building new schools. We should be thankful for all the luxuries we live in. Cars, grand houses, latest mobile phones, new clean clothes, happy families and good education. As Sikhs we should all spare some time to think and devote to those who will carry on the legacy of the Gurus - who will look after our Guradwaras in India - Harmander Sahib, Amritsar Sahib and many others. Posting our opinions on the internet and mere debates on Punjab and its sorry state will not help anyone. We need to remember that they are not there our of their own will. This has been the result of a forethought plan which has disabled them to the verge of extinction. The least we can do is support organisations and people who have volunteered to go and offer help single handedly. Let us not leave them begging for little donations while we turn a blind eye and go on to enjoy our little luxuries. By supporting these organisations we will be doing what Guru Ji taught us - sacha saudha. Our money will be used not only to educate a poor child but also to bring them up in the way of Sikhi as each child performs nitnem everyday at Amrit vela.
  21. Happened to attend a boy's 16th birthday paath at a Gurdwara. After the ardaas and hukamnama, I expected the teen to be given a siropa. He was sitting next to me so I said to him to get ready to go up and matha tek. He had no idea about what was going to happen. Duly, he was called to the front, matta tuk and was given a siropa. He sat down and put it on the floor. I told him to not do so and to place it on his lap or even hold it. After a few seconds, he put it back on the floor. Why? Because his dad told him to do so. I can understand the boy not knowing what a siropa is. I know I struggled to understand such concepts at his age, though I'd learnt 80% of my Sikhi knowledge by that point. What I can't understand is when the parents don't know what it means.
  22. I'm wondering after the baba jee pillars and elderly leaders of the Sikh community of the present time pass on....... have we got up and coming charismatic youth leaders to take their place? Or will be Sikh masses be left to their own devices and no longer an effective force against those who wish our community ill will. I can see within 5-10 years when the leaders who lived in the times of 1984 and put all their energy fighting for Sikh rights and khalistan pass on there will be no one influential will left to fight for the rights of the community.
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