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Sant ji is saying that Naamdharis twist Gurbani where Gurbani uses the word Naamdhari and Sant. Sant ji goes further and says a Naamdhari came to where he was and was asking about Dasam Bani. Sant ji didn't know he came, but Sant ji says, if i knew i would have given this Naamdhari a proper response. Sant ji goes further and says ask the Naamdhari how many Gurus they have and they will tell you we have 16 or 17. Then Sant ji says, why is this Naamdhari coming here to ask us about Dasam Bani when they don't even believe in Dasam Bani (Sant ji is saying why don't you go ask your Guru, since you call him a Guru, he must know everything...Sant ji is showing how ignorant these Naamdharis are). Further they distort Gurbani by saying a Sant is born in one place that is special to them. So Sant ji ask these Naamdhari, what about the Sant that are born in different areas like Amritsar are they fake? Again Sant ji says the Naamdhari don't believe in Dasam Bani, so who gave them the right to come and ask us about Dasam Bani when you don't believe in the Gurus. Then Sant ji says if this Naamdhari has faith in Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji Maharaj, then we will tell you the answer pretaining to Dasam Bani. Further Sant ji says beloved Sikhs of the Guru, no human can be the Guru. ONly the tenth Guru can be the Guru, and the ten Gurus along with Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. The Naamdharis go gone about Bhai Ram Singh and try to prove their points they are right by stating what Bhai Ram Singh did. But Sant ji says, Bhai Ram Singh was Amritdhari (wore a gathra and Kirpan). Sant ji says i have proof of Bhai Ram Singh that he was Amritdhari. The proof he has is Baba Gurbachan Singh ji has done his sangat and their is tapes made of this. Also Baba Gurbachan SIngh ji and Bhai Ram Singh ji lived like brothers and treated each other like brothers. Sant ji then goes further and says Bhai Ram Singh was Amritdhari and a Gursikh that was fearless, also did his nitnem. So i ask the Naamdhari, where are your Kirpans? You say you follow Bhai Ram Singh, so follow him and wear Kirpans. Next Sant ji says we should never slander a Gursikh like Bhai Ram Singh who accepted Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj as Guru and was a Amrithdari. You, Naamdharis now do all these rituals and go against Gurmat. Now the Naamdharis say that their fourteenth Guru is Jagjit. Since you Naamdharis say he is a Guru, then get him to stop the rock like Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj did. Tell him to get a plant that is sour to become sweet like Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj did. Sant ji lastly says if this Jagjit guy can, then i'll accept him as Guru (obvious this Jagjit guy can't and is misleading people). These are all manmat things these Naamdharis are doing and the recording end there, but Sant ji was still saying more about these fake people.