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Do you believe in reincarnation? could u say that death exists.........?

http://allaboutsikhs.com/basics/message.htm

Sikhism accepts the idea of reincarnation. Life as a human being is considered the last step before realizing God. Whether or not one attains union with God depends on that one person's actions in this life. Guru Amar Das, the third Sikh prophet writes:

He who sings His praises and does good actions

Will merge into Him.

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sikhism does believe in reincarnations,

there is a verse in sri guru Granth Sahib, I think it is written by bhagat Trilochan Ji

he has written(read below or see the attachment)

AMiq kwil jo lCmI ismrY AYsI

icMqw mih jy mrY ]

ant kaal jo lachhmee simrai aisee

chintaa meh jay marai.

At the very last moment, one who thinks of wealth, and dies

in such thoughts,

srp join vil vil AauqrY ]1] sarap jon val val a-utarai. ||1|| shall be reincarnated over and over again, in the form of

serpents. ||1||

ArI bweI goibd nwmu miq bIsrY ]

rhwau ]

aree baa-ee gobid naam mat

beesrai. rahaa-o.

O sister, do not forget the Name of the Lord of the Universe.

||Pause||

AMiq kwil jo iesqRI ismrY AYsI

icMqw mih jy mrY ]

ant kaal jo istaree simrai aisee

chintaa meh jay marai.

At the very last moment, he who thinks of women, and dies

in such thoughts,

bysvw join vil vil AauqrY ]2] baysvaa jon val val a-utarai. ||2|| shall be reincarnated over and over again as a prostitute.

||2||

AMiq kwil jo liVky ismrY AYsI

icMqw mih jy mrY ]

ant kaal jo larhikay simrai aisee

chintaa meh jay marai.

At the very last moment, one who thinks of his children, and

dies in such thoughts,

sUkr join vil vil AauqrY ]3] sookar jon val val a-utarai. ||3|| shall be reincarnated over and over again as a pig. ||3||

AMiq kwil jo mMdr ismrY AYsI

icMqw mih jy mrY ]

ant kaal jo mandar simrai aisee

chintaa meh jay marai.

At the very last moment, one who thinks of mansions, and

dies in such thoughts,

pRyq join vil vil AauqrY ]4] parayt jon val val a-utarai. ||4|| shall be reincarnated over and over again as a goblin. ||4||

AMiq kwil nwrwiexu ismrY AYsI

icMqw mih jy mrY ]

ant kaal naaraa-in simrai aisee

chintaa meh jay marai.

At the very last moment, one who thinks of the Lord, and

dies in such thoughts,

bdiq iqlocnu qy nr mukqw pIqMbru

vw ky irdY bsY ]5] 2]

badat tilochan tay nar muktaa

peetambar vaa kay ridai basai.

||5||2||

says Trilochan, that man shall be liberated; the Lord shall

abide in his heart. ||5||2||

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The following actual event occurred at my local g'wara.. I was present during intervals of it... a Singh sent the following e-mail around a couple of years ago ... titled life after death ....

Cont`d from last mail.. (sorry small font so it can all be fitted on one mail.) Below is the debate we had about this subject, initiated by the bibi.

Bibi: Bhaji, You sikhs believe in reincarnation. This is a completely absurd theory. It does not make sense. How can a human then become a pig?

Das: Bhen ji, both sikhs and hindus believe in re-incarnation, but our belief is different in some areas, but the whole concept of re-incarnation is not about what a person becomes in their next life, but about escaping the cycle of life and death and becoming mukht.

Bibi : But how do you become a pig from a human?

Das: The body is just a vessel, only the soul is what is of value. This soul can be born in any vessel.

Bibi: I do not accept this, I think it is absurd.

Das: Bhen ji, that is your choice. A person after death is judged according to their thoughts & actions. It is according to this judgement, that they are honoured or dishonoured in the next life. But even this is not so important. The important thing is to be able to break the cycle in life and death, while alive. To be able to attain a spiritual plain and obtain mukhti. Then it does not matter what you will be in the next life, for you are free and merged with God. That is the key to re-incarnation, that one breaks free from this cycle.

Bibi: Fine, but is sikhi the way? Judgement day will come upon us all.

Das: Yes it will, and it happens everyday. Everyday we are judged, and every action we do has a re-action. But in the end to Judgement day will come, we call it the Dharam Raj, you call it different.

Bibi: No, judgement day will come to everyone on this earth. The day will be beckoning, when Allah judges all, and the muslims will rise.

Das: You mean the muslims will rise, ie. all the ones buried in coffins will rise again and you will have an army of zombies fighting against non-muslims. You find re-incarnation absurd, but you find this acceptable?

Bibi: Islam is the truth, it is the only way. All those who are non-muslims will become muslims.

Das: Judgement day as a concept is complete nonsense. It does not make sense.

Bibi: How can you say that?

Das: Bhen ji, relax and listen. Firstly you believe in a day. Why? God, Allah, Waheguru, does not believe in day and night, God is timeless. Day and night is a concept of man, and the result of the earth circling the sun. Why would God wait for a day to judge everyone. God is beyond that. It is a continuous process as in sikhi has with the Dharam raj. Do you believe God is not capable of judging people continuously. Why wait for a day? Them muslims who died centuries ago are then unlucky for they have had to stay in coffins all this time, decomposing, waiting for this day to come when they can be judged. Does this not seem an ineffective way, surely continuous judgement via dhram raj is more sensible, and God`s way is Truth. I see more truth in continuous judgement.

Bibi: yes, but your way, turns a human into a pig?

Das: Bhen ji, You are stuck on one silly point. God gives his beloved souls many many chances, it is they who choose whether to take this chance or not. If they do not then they come back in some form or another. Just because muslims do not like pigs, does not mean they are bad. A pig is part of Allah`s creation aswell, just like everything else. A person who is a friend of God, is also a friend on his creation. That person learns to love and appreciate everything God has created.

Bibi: No, in islam there is only one chance, there is only one way, and you are judged according to it.

Das: How can this be the way of God? Even a mother with a child. The child as it grows up makes thousands of mistakes, the mother sometimes gets frustrated, but never stops loving the child. The mother always forgives and has that compassionate nature. And we are talking of God. It is God who put that compassionate nature into the mother. How can we say God is not compasionate at all? The human will make thousands of mistakes in their life, no matter how holy they are, but God will always love them, help them, and be compassionate towards them. he gives them thousands of chances.

Bibi: Yes, true a mother is compassonate and so must be God. l have to read deeper, maybe in islam you do get another chance.

Das: Then if you do get another chance, then that chance has a form. Whether or not you accept it, then that is a form of re-incarnation, and non-acceptance of Judgement day theory.

(Bibi goes quiet, revelation suddenly dawns upon her)

Bibi: No, No, I will have to get back to you ... We will talk about this again..

Bibi left.

waheguru ji ke khalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh

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