Still Not Enough Rights

[khalsaforce]

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wjkf jio,

Still not enough rights for sikhs in punjab. if a sikh religious group tries to have a sikhi camp near amritsar they are suspected of spreading terrorism and if shiv sena have a camp in patiala for adults to be trained with weapons and m16 then its called desh seva by a hindustani political party. If members of babbar khalsa are caught with a AK47 they are called terrorists but if a member of shiv sena has been caught with two grenades and a 9mm its desh bhagti and was never taken to the jail. DIstrict kapurthala small town bholath a sikh was caught with a 6 round pistol with a license and was taken in to custody by the bholath police and was beaten in jail, someone had to pay 75000 rupees for get his release now is this justice. Now if his son now attacks the police man who has beaten his dad we would be called terrorist, is this justice and now people still talk about no need for khalistan,why?because they didn't goto jail or they weren't tortured. if a sikh villager wants to carry a gun with a license he has to goto the store 30 times to get it but if a sikh with haircut and names himself amit he will get it in 1 day what is this is this justice. If a singh goes to haryana he is being stared with angery eyes by the hindu community and I am talkin about in 2006. I was surprised when i heard this, khalsa jee what should be done?

[kurtas]

What part of Haryana was that in ?

I have travelled throughout Haryana from Hissar to Bahadurgarh and have never had a problem with people starring. I have been to the big cattle fair (held in October) near Rothak which is largely visited by Jaat (Hindus) and again never any bother or stares.

I get more gripe in the UK and Holland with people making Allah Akbar chants etc.

>>if a sikh villager wants to carry a gun with a license he has to goto the store 30 times to get it but if a sikh with haircut and names himself amit he will get it in 1 day what is this is this justice.

My cousin bought a pistol from the government ordnance factory (I think its in Kanpur). He is Keshdari Singh and he had no problem buying it. They gave him a time to come and collect it and after they had checked his license they handed over the pistol. We even fired a few shots from the pistol and his rifle during a wedding without any problems.

Yes there are problems with getting a license as the usual indian bureaucracy comes into play with signatures of DSP etc required. But they treat everyone the same and try to get money out of you.

[khalsaforce]

it was near a place of baba bukala nath i think and pajji not everyone gets the same treatment. your cousin got the pistol from kanpur where are hindus and thats good and my uncle was supposed to get the pistol from a shop in jalandhar and had to make rounds from his village to jalandhar like atleat 10 times. the guy is a farmer and has work to be done with and the the dukandar asks's him to go places to get documents all bakwas stuff that makes no sense. asks for certificates, and other paper work and stating ur family had a khadkoo so u need to get more permissions.

What part of Haryana was that in ?

I have travelled throughout Haryana from Hissar to Bahadurgarh and have never had a problem with people starring. I have been to the big cattle fair (held in October) near Rothak which is largely visited by Jaat (Hindus) and again never any bother or stares.

I get more gripe in the UK and Holland with people making Allah Akbar chants etc.

>>if a sikh villager wants to carry a gun with a license he has to goto the store 30 times to get it but if a sikh with haircut and names himself amit he will get it in 1 day what is this is this justice.

My cousin bought a pistol from the government ordnance factory (I think its in Kanpur). He is Keshdari Singh and he had no problem buying it. They gave him a time to come and collect it and after they had checked his license they handed over the pistol. We even fired a few shots from the pistol and his rifle during a wedding without any problems.

Yes there are problems with getting a license as the usual indian bureaucracy comes into play with signatures of DSP etc required. But they treat everyone the same and try to get money out of you.

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[khalsaforce]

pajji u reply about haryana and the pistol but what about shiv sena that is considered a political party and has camps near patiala. If i find the exact location i will show u pictures infact the news reporter did take pictures in 1995 or 96.

[kurtas]

I know the Shiv Sena had such a camp in Ludhiana and they used it to store weapons under the patronage of the then Badal sarkar in Punjab. It was raided when Amarinder Singh came to power and sword etc were found as well as pornographic CDs. These so called Shiv Sainiks were big time distributors of VCD porn.

[kurtas]

it was near a place of baba bukala nath i think and pajji not everyone gets the same treatment. your cousin got the pistol from kanpur where are hindus and thats good and my uncle was supposed to get  the pistol from a shop in jalandhar and had to make rounds from his village to jalandhar like atleat 10 times. the guy is a farmer and has work to be done with and the the dukandar asks's him to go places to get documents all bakwas stuff that makes no sense. asks for certificates, and other paper work and stating ur family had a khadkoo so u need to get more permissions.

What part of Haryana was that in ?

I have travelled throughout Haryana from Hissar to Bahadurgarh and have never had a problem with people starring. I have been to the big cattle fair (held in October) near Rothak which is largely visited by Jaat (Hindus) and again never any bother or stares.

I get more gripe in the UK and Holland with people making Allah Akbar chants etc.

>>if a sikh villager wants to carry a gun with a license he has to goto the store 30 times to get it but if a sikh with haircut and names himself amit he will get it in 1 day what is this is this justice.

My cousin bought a pistol from the government ordnance factory (I think its in Kanpur). He is Keshdari Singh and he had no problem buying it. They gave him a time to come and collect it and after they had checked his license they handed over the pistol. We even fired a few shots from the pistol and his rifle during a wedding without any problems.

Yes there are problems with getting a license as the usual indian bureaucracy comes into play with signatures of DSP etc required. But they treat everyone the same and try to get money out of you.

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Baba Balak Nath ? Is that not in Hamirpur in Himachal ?

Thats the whole point. Not everyone gets the same treatment. Likewise when my uncle (again he is Gursikh) applied for an arms license he was told he could not have one as he had a challan served on him for some driving violation on a scooter. He was not too bothered so got his son (my cousin) to apply and he was granted a license without any problems.

As for the stares I have a Gursikh friend whos father was jailed in India under TADA etc and he has also travelled to Haryana without problems and he did not sense any difference.

[gupt_paapi]

I know the Shiv Sena had such a camp in Ludhiana and they used it to store weapons under the patronage of the then Badal sarkar in Punjab. It was raided when Amarinder Singh came to power and sword etc were found as well as pornographic CDs. These so called Shiv Sainiks were big time distributors of VCD porn.

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[dhan_dhan_sikhi]

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Society in India is in tatters.Apart from the few religious sikhs and I guess muslims,the society has totally generated.Its much more than west.In west the bodies have become easy access.In India,both bodies and CONSCIOUS are becoming an easy access.There is a network of corruption and self interest in almost every department and field.

People are talking about improving economy.

Do u think a person with no moral and conscious will change if he starts to earn 15000 instead of 10000?Answer is NO

Regarding Rss,or delhi police or even indian army.U convert them into sword soldiers of the 18 th century and make them fight agaisnt a low percentage of true khalsa existing.

THey will run like sheeps and much more easily than the brutal abdali and yakariyas.

[singh_comradz]

i know this is off topic but i haven't been india for a while so just out of curiosity do you think Sikhi is increasing or decreasing there????

[Pakandi baba]

i know this is off topic but i haven't been india for a while so just out of curiosity do you think Sikhi is increasing or decreasing there????

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I went once and in every nook and cranny i found a 'dera' I have one in my village but i never go, the Gurdwara provides me with all i need! :TH: