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I know that kaam is wrong, kaam is when you go around sleeping with different women all the time, but is it still wrong to be dealing with things like p*rn? is it wrong to do that with p*rn? i think alot of you are going to say its wrong, but i want an honest answer, it might best for you if you PM me if you want,up to you. I REALLY want this question answered, but if ADMIN really want to take it off, then ok, but i would like some replies, i need help on this path, you could still PM me if they take off this topic. I really didnt like posting this. If there is any Gurbaani to support your answer plz give it...

sorry if i have offended anyone, bhul chuk maaf karna....

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Bhaji i was in your situationa a 2 months ago , i know its really hard to fight kaam but bhaji their is a way out with guru's kirpa i heard a kirtan updesh by Bhai Guriqbal singh, he said increase the amount of sukhmani sahib ji paath you do daily to fight anyone one of the five vikaars witch is most heavy on you and do ardass afterwards to Satguru to help you fight it.

Bhaji this method had been apllied in practical and IT WORKS 100%.

DHAN DHAN GURU ARJUN DEV JI

DHAN DHAN GURU ARJUN DEV JI

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[Revolutionary]

KAAM means sexual desire

according to me.. (and this is honest answer) lookign at P--n is a sign of weakness. Its a sign of lack of self control. Soldiers don't do such stuff.

To me, it is a disgusting act because it leads to mental images/fantasies --> even worse than the actual act!

So is p--n wrong? er...DUH! lol

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O yeah if u really need gurbani.. just serch for "kaam" on this forum.. or hope that a user named "papi" comes to your thread and does his magic :lol:

[Guest Guest]

what is p*rn? is it not kaam? is kaam right? you would watch things like this for sexual pleasure would you not?

i dont remeber the exact panktee but guru sahid ji states that even for a second of sexual pleasure you shall spend million of years in hell. i'm not sure if thats the right translation but can sumebody help me out here? like bhenji above said yes it is wrong!!

[Revolutionary]

by tha way, its paarji for u lol

[Singh132]

Without a doubt it's wrong.

ਅਖੀ ਸੂਤਕੁ ਵੇਖਣਾ ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਪਰ ਧਨ ਰੂਪੁ ॥

Which means looking at other women, wealth and beauty of others (in a lustful way) is impurity of the eyes.

also,

ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਪੇਖੈ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ॥

a Sikh should not look at other women's bodies.

Bhai Gurdas jee says, "dekh paraieeyaa(n) changeeaa(n), maava(n) bhaina(n) dheeaa(n) janai"

meaning that when you see other women (besides your wife of course), see them as mothers, sisters or daughters. Would you be happy to see your mother or sister in these pictures and in those situations?

This is a big problem and a big hurdle in Sikhi. A Gursikh absolutely cannot look at this sort of thing. The women posing are often exploited and have been forced to do this type of work due to hardships in life. By looking at it, you are indirectly contributing to their suffering. Do you want that karma on your head?

Finally, when a question like this comes up, ask yourself: would Guru Sahib be doing this? Would I be ok doing this with Guru Sahib watching? It's not a hypothetical it's a reality that Guru Sahib is watching.

[Ghetto_Superstar]

get outa here u pervert!!! Stop wastin our time on your sexual frustrations..... go n see a psychologist!!

[Wicked Warrior]

I remember a line from the Guru about how Saints don't needlessly spill their semen.

ਬਿੰਦੁ ਨ ਰਾਖਿਆ ਸਬਦੁ ਨ ਭਾਖਿਆ ॥

बिंदु न राखिआ सबदु न भाखिआ ॥

bind na raakhi-aa sabad na bhaakhi-aa.

He does not preserve his semen and seed, and does not chant the Shabad

and

ਬਿੰਦੁ ਨ ਰਾਖਹਿ ਜਤੀ ਕਹਾਵਹਿ ॥

बिंदु न राखहि जती कहावहि ॥

bind na raakhahi jatee kahaaveh.

You do not control your seed and semen, and yet you claim to practice abstinence..

and importantly

ਸੁਪਨੈ ਬਿੰਦੁ ਨ ਦੇਈ ਝਰਨਾ ॥

सुपनै बिंदु न देई झरना ॥

supnai bind na day-ee jharnaa.

He does not lose his semen, even in his dreams;

[Guest Papi]

even for a second of sexual pleasure you shall spend million of years in hell.

Awsw mhlw 5 ]

aasaa mehalaa 5 ||

Aasaa, Fifth Mehla:

inmK kwm suAwd kwrix koit idns duKu pwvih ]

nimakh kaam suaadh kaaran kott dhinas dhukh paavehi ||

For a moment of sexual pleasure, you shall suffer in pain for millions of days.

GrI muhq rMg mwxih iPir bhuir bhuir pCuqwvih ]1]

gharee muhath ra(n)g maanehi fir bahur bahur pashhuthaavehi ||1||

For an instant, you may savor pleasure, but afterwards, you shall regret it, again and again. ||1||

AMDy cyiq hir hir rwieAw ]

a(n)dhhae chaeth har har raaeiaa ||

O blind man, meditate on the Lord, the Lord, your King.

qyrw so idnu nyVY AwieAw ]1] rhwau ]

thaeraa so dhin naerrai aaeiaa ||1|| rehaao ||

Your day is drawing near. ||1||Pause||

plk idRsit dyiK BUlo Awk nIm ko qUMmru ]

palak dhrisatt dhaekh bhoolo aak neem ko thoo(n)mar ||

You are deceived, beholding with your eyes, the bitter melon and swallow-wort.

jYsw sMgu ibsIAr isau hY ry qYso hI iehu pr igRhu ]2]

jaisaa sa(n)g biseear sio hai rae thaiso hee eihu par grihu ||2||

But, like the companionship of a poisonous snake, so is the desire for another's spouse. ||2||

bYrI kwrix pwp krqw bsqu rhI Amwnw ]

bairee kaaran paap karathaa basath rehee amaanaa ||

For the sake of your enemy, you commit sins, while you neglect the reality of your faith.

Coif jwih iqn hI isau sMgI swjn isau bYrwnw ]3]

shhodd jaahi thin hee sio sa(n)gee saajan sio bairaanaa ||3||

Your friendship is with those who abandon you, and you are angry with your friends. ||3||

sgl sMswru iehY ibiD ibAwipE so aubirE ijsu guru pUrw ]

sagal sa(n)saar eihai bidhh biaapiou so oubariou jis gur pooraa ||

The entire world is entangled in this way; he alone is saved, who has the Perfect Guru.

khu nwnk Bv swgru qirE Bey punIq srIrw ]4]5]127]

kahu naanak bhav saagar thariou bheae puneeth sareeraa ||4||5||127||

Says Nanak, I have crossed over the terrifying world-ocean; my body has become sanctified. ||4||5||127||

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gauVI mhlw 5 ]

gourree mehalaa 5 ||

Gauree, Fifth Mehla:

rwKu ipqw pRB myry ]

raakh pithaa prabh maerae ||

Save me, O My Father God.

moih inrgunu sB gun qyry ]1] rhwau ]

mohi niragun sabh gun thaerae ||1|| rehaao ||

I am worthless and without virtue; all virtues are Yours. ||1||Pause||

pMc ibKwdI eyku grIbw rwKhu rwKnhwry ]

pa(n)ch bikhaadhee eaek gareebaa raakhahu raakhanehaarae ||

The five vicious thieves are assaulting my poor being; save me, O Savior Lord!

Kydu krih Aru bhuqu sMqwvih AwieE srin quhwry ]1]

khaedh karehi ar bahuth sa(n)thaavehi aaeiou saran thuhaarae ||1||

They are tormenting and torturing me. I have come, seeking Your Sanctuary. ||1||

kir kir hwirE Aink bhu BwqI Cofih kqhUM nwhI ]

kar kar haariou anik bahu bhaathee shhoddehi kathehoo naahee ||

Trying all sorts of things, I have grown weary, but still, they will not leave me alone.

eyk bwq suin qwkI Etw swDsMig imit jwhI ]2]

eaek baath sun thaakee outtaa saadhhasa(n)g mitt jaahee ||2||

But I have heard that they can be rooted out, in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; and so I seek their Shelter. ||2||

kir ikrpw sMq imly moih iqn qy DIrju pwieAw ]

kar kirapaa sa(n)th milae mohi thin thae dhheeraj paaeiaa ||

In their Mercy, the Saints have met me, and from them, I have obtained satisfaction.

sMqI mMqu dIE moih inrBau gur kw sbdu kmwieAw ]3]

sa(n)thee ma(n)th dheeou mohi nirabho gur kaa sabadh kamaaeiaa ||3||

The Saints have given me the Mantra of the Fearless Lord, and now I practice the Word of the Guru's Shabad. ||3||

jIiq ley Eie mhw ibKwdI shj suhylI bwxI ]

jeeth leae oue mehaa bikhaadhee sehaj suhaelee baanee ||

I have now conquered those terrible evil-doers, and my speech is now sweet and sublime.

khu nwnk min BieAw prgwsw pwieAw pdu inrbwxI ]4]4]125]

kahu naanak man bhaeiaa paragaasaa paaeiaa padh nirabaanee ||4||4||125||

Says Nanak, the Divine Light has dawned within my mind; I have obtained the state of Nirvaanaa. ||4||4||125||

may guruji help both you and me my friend.

[Guest Guest]

I thought we don't believe in any heaven or hell then why does it states in guru granth sahib ji again and again.