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*EDIT* im not a muslim, i was being sarcastic saying, they think that their times coming, when really whats coming is the raaj of the khalsa.... they think islams gona wipe out d world or wat eva... yet dey aint got a clue

Dont under estimate Islamic philosophy

Dont under estimate Islamic philosophy;

if Sikhs dream of raj kare ga khalsa .

Then the raj is not going to be given with a begging bowel ( like the currant PM has got ) .

it has got to be planned and executed and obtained

if Sikhs desire to leave a indelible ink in man kinds history.

Since its inception in ancient Arabia in the 7th century;

Islam and its band of small follower nearly got wiped out in early days;

Today they are in majority in 52 countries ( repeat 52 country in a span of 1300 years ).

There are

10.4 million Muslims in Canada and the United States

2.2 million Muslims in Latin and Central America

10.0 million Muslims in the European Union plus Bosnia-Herzegovina and Albania

few or none in Eastern Europe, Norway

62.4 million Muslims in Turkey

284.4 million Muslims in the Arab League including Iraq (with about 15 million Shia, 60% of the population)

254.0 Muslims in Sub-Saharan Africa

65.4 million Muslims (90% Shia) in Iran

48.5 million Muslims in Central Asia - in Azerbaijan, Uzebekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan - formerly republics of the Soviet Union.

26.7 million Muslims in Russia

22.7 million Muslims in Afghanistan

230.0 million Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh

133.3 million Muslims in India - the world's largest minority population

133.1 million Muslims in China - a close second

196.3 million Muslims in Indonesia

30.0 million Muslims in the rest of South-East Asia, especially Malaysia

few or none in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Mongolia, or the South Pacific

1.5 billion people total

and From whom did they take there land :--

from Christains like Egypt

from Jews like mecca and medina

from Buddhist like Afghanistan

from Sikhs/ hindus : the land of Punjab/Sind / Baluchistan / kashmir:

So if you want khalsa raj to come then you will have to do better than them.

The rule of battle have changed from old days of sword and sawalakh se ek laraoo concept.

It is the battle of reproductive power and inheriting countries.

I will not be surprised if

1. UK

2. France

3. India states like Uttar pardesh , Assam and Bengal

turn Islamic

Wake up oh khalsa if you want your word to spread before Islam engulfs it

you will not get land back which you loose to them it is one way loss

so much for the intelligent white man and the brave Khalsa

This is not to scare you but to tell you the magnitude of task that confronts you

I can assure u that in India Sikhs can on any opportune day ( like one happening in Iraq these days) be out maneuvered / bumped off by muslims due to there size and its impact on politics.

You could loose your land and woman right under your nose if they came to power in guise of Mulayam singh yadav and Amar singh variants

This is to also tell u not to indulge in mental masterbuation of internet chatting but do some thing worthy of khalsa

Wahe guru ji tha khalsa wahe guru ji the fateh

love

hps

Thats pretty good analysis of what the islamic agenda is.. its all about global conquest and subjudgation of mankind to 7th century ideals. Too bad mnon-muslims are busy concentrating with their lives to notice the dark shadow of islam slowly creeping up on them.

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Bibi please keep your facts to yourself, Not all muslims are bad, I dont think most muslims are bad, its just like another group of narakdharis in sikhi same in islam or christianity. So respect other religions and follow your sikhi and dont blame the whole community for the deed of one person. we have more than 22 million sikhs, i bet not even 0.9 are good sikhs so please let everyone practice religion freely and religion is for waheguroo not for a person. Dont judge people like that and you cannot assume who will be a pig or a lion in their next life, its in the hands of akal purajh, he is the only master, he will decide for everyone.

all muslims think about is quantity not quality, what is the point of having a billion muslims in the world when only a tiny segment of them can call themselves true muslims, its all about ego therefore they run around like lunatics trying to spread this idea of islam but dont follow that idea themsleves they are just booking a one way ticket to lakh charasee, who knows this geezer who made this post might be a pig in his next life

SHAME ON U..

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If you think religion is competition then you are not even .00001% near sikhism. Stop your hate against any religions. If you are sayin fight ISLAM then we wont be able to beat islam or any other relgion. In sikhi we must respect all the prophets and cannot insult or goto war with a relgiion becasue noone can beat a religon, Like the mughals wanted to get into beef with sikhs and wanted to destroyed sikhi using islam, they were not succesful same with muslims, you cannot fight a relgiion using your relgiion, because all are akal purakhs play. Dont go outside the circle of that akals play or you will regret it.

you will not get land back which you loose to them it is one way loss

what are u talking about?if any land belongs to sikhs will stay with sikhs no one can take our land away especially not a relgiion, maybe a group of extremists like brahmical government of india but definately not a religion.

You could loose your land and woman right under your nose if they came to power in guise of Mulayam singh yadav and Amar singh variants

If this happens I wouldn't be more happy to defend the Sikhs or innocent people even if they are muslims, jews or anyone they are people of waheguroo. Thats what you should pray for and become the army of Akal purakh to protect innocent lives, thats why Sikhs are here and that is why sikhi is here.

This is to also tell u not to indulge in mental masterbuation of internet chatting but do some thing worthy of khalsa

Dont need your awakening message, stop spreading your bull hate on to sikhi forums against any religion.

*EDIT* im not a muslim, i was being sarcastic saying, they think that their times coming, when really whats coming is the raaj of the khalsa.... they think islams gona wipe out d world or wat eva... yet dey aint got a clue

Dont under estimate Islamic philosophy

Dont under estimate Islamic philosophy;

if Sikhs dream of raj kare ga khalsa .

Then the raj is not going to be given with a begging bowel ( like the currant PM has got ) .

it has got to be planned and executed and obtained

if Sikhs desire to leave a indelible ink in man kinds history.

Since its inception in ancient Arabia in the 7th century;

Islam and its band of small follower nearly got wiped out in early days;

Today they are in majority in 52 countries ( repeat 52 country in a span of 1300 years ).

There are

10.4 million Muslims in Canada and the United States

2.2 million Muslims in Latin and Central America

10.0 million Muslims in the European Union plus Bosnia-Herzegovina and Albania

few or none in Eastern Europe, Norway

62.4 million Muslims in Turkey

284.4 million Muslims in the Arab League including Iraq (with about 15 million Shia, 60% of the population)

254.0 Muslims in Sub-Saharan Africa

65.4 million Muslims (90% Shia) in Iran

48.5 million Muslims in Central Asia - in Azerbaijan, Uzebekistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan - formerly republics of the Soviet Union.

26.7 million Muslims in Russia

22.7 million Muslims in Afghanistan

230.0 million Muslims in Pakistan and Bangladesh

133.3 million Muslims in India - the world's largest minority population

133.1 million Muslims in China - a close second

196.3 million Muslims in Indonesia

30.0 million Muslims in the rest of South-East Asia, especially Malaysia

few or none in Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Mongolia, or the South Pacific

1.5 billion people total

and From whom did they take there land :--

from Christains like Egypt

from Jews like mecca and medina

from Buddhist like Afghanistan

from Sikhs/ hindus : the land of Punjab/Sind / Baluchistan / kashmir:

So if you want khalsa raj to come then you will have to do better than them.

The rule of battle have changed from old days of sword and sawalakh se ek laraoo concept.

It is the battle of reproductive power and inheriting countries.

I will not be surprised if

1. UK

2. France

3. India states like Uttar pardesh , Assam and Bengal

turn Islamic

Wake up oh khalsa if you want your word to spread before Islam engulfs it

you will not get land back which you loose to them it is one way loss

so much for the intelligent white man and the brave Khalsa

This is not to scare you but to tell you the magnitude of task that confronts you

I can assure u that in India Sikhs can on any opportune day ( like one happening in Iraq these days) be out maneuvered / bumped off by muslims due to there size and its impact on politics.

You could loose your land and woman right under your nose if they came to power in guise of Mulayam singh yadav and Amar singh variants

This is to also tell u not to indulge in mental masterbuation of internet chatting but do some thing worthy of khalsa

Wahe guru ji tha khalsa wahe guru ji the fateh

love

hps

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Totally agree with Khalsa Force!

No religion is bad nor is their sacred scripture its just those people who dont do Vichaar and use it for their own ends.

People nowadays are switching between religions at a faster rate than ever.

If the Akaal Takht started throwing out all groups against mainstream Sikhism then it would cause even more problems. The Nirankaris were only ex communicated for openly attacking what they call as 'orthodox Sikhs'.

People have a fear they are being attacked or taken over tell me whats new about this?

Faith in God is something personal not Politics or how much percentage.

Thanks

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Sheikh sparks outrage

* Sheikh may be charged

* Outrage at sheikh's pig jibe

Carolyn Webb

January 19, 2007

A controversial Muslim leader who has advocated martyrdom to children and described Jews as pigs could face up to 15 years in jail if charged under Australian anti-terror laws.

Political and religious figures, including local Islamic leaders, yesterday accused Sheikh Feiz Muhammad of inciting hatred and terrorism through recorded lectures that have been sold in Australia on DVD.

Federal police confirmed they were investigating 16 DVDs, sold under the Death Series title, featuring sermons by Sheikh Muhammad, the head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in the Sydney suburb of Liverpool.

In one of the DVDs, Sheikh Muhammad advocates offering children "as soldiers defending Islam".

"Teach them this: there is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior)," Sheikh Muhammad says. "Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."

In another passage, Sheikh Muhammad says that being a disbeliever is "filth" and makes pig noises after stating that "Jews are pigs that will be killed at the end of the world".

The DVDs came to light after the airing on Britain's Channel 4 this week of a documentary, Undercover Mosque. Its producers bought the series from children selling Islamic materials outside a mosque in England.

Copies were still on sale yesterday in an Islamic bookshop in the Sydney suburb of Lakemba, and on the Sydney youth centre's website.

Acting federal Attorney-General Kevin Andrews denounced the sheik's remarks as "reprehensible and offensive" and said the Government was concerned about a "developing pattern of behaviour" among some Islamic clerics. "The importation of hatred into Australia is totally unacceptable," he said.

Sheikh Muhammad was born in Australia to Lebanese parents, but has been living in Lebanon for the past year, which could complicate any plan to prosecute him under Australian law. Canberra does not have an extradition agreement with Beirut.

He became a controversial figure in 2005 when he told an audience in Bankstown, Sydney, that women were solely to blame for being raped. "Strapless, backless, sleeveless, they are nothing but satanical," he said. "Mini-skirts, tight jeans — all this to tease men and to appeal to (their) carnal nature."

Yesterday, NSW Premier Morris Iemma called on Canberra to use sedition laws to outlaw the DVDs. "He has gone way beyond the sort of outrageous and stupid comments made in recent times by the other sheikh," said Mr Iemma, referring to Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali. "This fellow is inciting people to commit acts of terror," Mr Iemma said.

Federal Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd said the comments were "obscene in the extreme" and called on the Government to act against the sheikh. "As I see it, Sheikh Muhammad's statements add up to an incitement to terrorism," he said. "I would say this to Sheikh Muhammad: Do not return to Australia, you are not welcome here."

Jeremy Jones, of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, accused Sheikh Muhammad of "engaging in a campaign of poisoning minds" against the Australian way of life. "Feiz Mohammed comes across like a very angry fanatic, which is very dangerous, particularly as someone who wants to be inspiring youth," he said.

Michael Lipshutz, chairman of the B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation Commission, said he was concerned that Sheikh Muhammad's "racist anti-Semitic diatribe" reflected a rising level of anti-Semitism in the Muslim community.

Mr Lipshutz said the comments "should rally the Muslim community to combat this intolerable, vile epidemic among its members".

Keysar Trad, of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said Sheikh Muhammad had gone against Muslim ideals of "being a good person, a good citizen, a good samaritan and a positive constructive part of society".

Islamic Council of Victoria spokesman Waleed Aly said: "If (authorities) genuinely believe there has been a breach of the law, then I don't think anyone can object to that law being applied. This sort of preaching is a real concern."

Human rights lawyer Lex Lasry, QC, said under the Criminal Code, it was an offence to intentionally recruit (including incite and encourage) a person to participate in terrorism. The offence carries a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison.

Ali Khalil, a member of the Global Islamic Youth Centre, last night described Sheik Muhammad as a "great bloke" and said his comments could have been misinterpreted. "Dying for the cause of Islam … or dying as a jihad doesn't necessarily mean going to war and killing someone and you dying in the process."

But Mr Khalil, 24, said he did not agree with the sheikh's comments about Jews. "I wouldn't like to be called that and I wouldn't like to call anyone that," he said.

With PETER KER, JANO GIBSON, NICK O'MALLEY, AAP

Islamic school 'King Fahad Academy in Acton' in UK found to be teaching hate to young pupils

February 05, 2007 10:57 AM EST

An Islamic school is poisoning the minds of pupils with lessons in hate, a former teacher claims.

Colin Cook, 57, says textbooks used by children as young as five at the King Fahad Academy in Acton describe Jews as "repugnant" and "apes" and Christians as "pigs".

Pupils have allegedly been heard saying they want to "kill Americans", praising 9/11 and idolising Osama bin Laden as their "hero".

There are fears that it could become a breeding ground for terrorists with Mr Cook warning: "The school could produce a dangerous harvest."

Its sister school of the same name in Bonn has been singled out by the German intelligence services as a meeting place for activists linked to terrorism.

Mr Cook, a Muslim convert, taught English at the school for 19 years until he was sacked in December last year.

He claims he was fired after blowing the whistle on the school for covering up cheating by children in GCSE exams and is bringing a tribunal claim for unfair dismissal, race discrimination and victimisation.

He also alleges that when he complained to school management about the content of the curriculum and questioned whether it complied with British laws, he was told: "This is not England. It is Saudi Arabia".

He said that the school was "very good" until the majority of British teachers left in 2005. He said: "Since then, there has been a move towards a pro-Saudi agenda.

"It is clearly racist and very divisive. I understand now why the pupils express anti-Western views at school. It is deeply immoral to put such ideas into the heads of young children.

Mr Cook's solicitor Lawrence Davies said: "Faith schools are legitimate but they must not be used to propagate a racist agenda. Every faith school must be properly inspected. And those that promote the terrorist mindset must be called to account."

Mr Cook, a father of three, was earning £35,000 a year and is seeking £100,000 in compensation.

The school denies all his allegations and claims he was rightly dismissed for misconduct. Opened in 1985 for the offspring of Saudi diplomats in London, it is named after the former Saudi king and funded by that country's government.

But the overwhelming majority of its 750 pupils are now the children of British Muslims. The school - which teaches pupils up to the age of 18 - devotes around half of lessons to religious education and teaches almost all classes in Arabic, with boys and girls following different curriculums.

In the past, parents have claimed that the school is teaching British children fundamentalist Islam while giving girls an inferior education.

Ofsted, which inspected the school in March 2006, made a series of criticisms of its performance and refused to give it full registration as an independent school.

It warned that while the quality of teaching was good, there had been "major changes in staffing" which led to disruption, and told the school to improve the curriculum.

In papers submitted to Watford employment tribunal, Mr Cook says that most of the school's teachers are Saudis who speak little or no English.

Mr Cook's lessons formed part of a British curriculum while a second Saudi curriculum was taught in Arabic. Mr Cooks claims that textbooks used on the Saudi curriculum, which are published by the Saudi government's ministry of education, prove that the academy "is institutionally racist".

He said: "The textbooks apparently state that the Jews are cursed. Pupils are asked to ' mention some repugnant characteristics of Jews'."

Mr Cook said pupils are taught that religions including Christianity and Judaism are "worthless". He said: "The teachers on the Saudi curriculum presumably either endorse this racist viewpoint or teach it without complaint."

Mr Cook claims he was sacked after he reported pupils cheating to exams board Edexcel. He said that staff allowed pupils to refer to their own, heavily annotated course books during an English language GCSE exam.

He said: "The Academy knows that cheating occurred. The boys who did cheat and those who probably cheated were not investigated or sanctioned.î Mr Cook was fired in December after being accused of gross misconduct.

He said: "It was unlawful to sack me for whistle-blowing in these circumstances. A Saudi national would not have been treated in this adverse manner."

The school claims that Mr Cook was rightly dismissed for misconduct connected to the exams procedure. His tribunal is due to take place later this year.

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True story that happened a Muslim Man was shot by someone but survived all the other Muslims at the place started saying it was a Sikh that shot him and escaped the rumour escalted.

.....it turned out to be a White man with a grudge against asians...........

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