Mangle Charan

[kam1825]

What is the manglecharan.

I know there are many such as the mool mantra, first chuppai chand of jaap sahib, opening salok of sukhmani sahib and many more

but what does this mean.

any ideas

[Guest mehtab]

once i was listening to one lecture of gyani sant singh jee maskeen...although the lecture was not on manglacharan, but he talked bout it. i think the beginning of certain parts of bani, and its usually moolmantar from ikk oangkaar till gurparsad...plzz correct me if i m wrong.

[kam1825]

mangle charan for japji sahib is ik onkar to nanak hosi bhi sach.

as explained by taksal as the bani in guru sahib starts and finishes with the same letter. which is 's'.

Sochai soch na hovaie (start)

Athara das bees (finish)

[V]

So is Mool mantar - First pauri not considered as bani by them :T: ?

[kam1825]

yes it is considered bani. the mangle charan is the root or preface to the bani. It is very important that is why they emphasis on the manglecharans.

[V]

yes it is considered bani. the mangle charan is the root or preface to the bani. It is very important that is why they emphasis on the manglecharans.

so basically the mangalacharan is used as an arguement for RaagMalaa..

just wondering.

cause why else do the put so much emphesis on it

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[kam1825]

i'm not getting involved in this arguement. there is no need to bring this up gain and again. if you want proof for or aginst the raag mala i can direct you to other sites.

stops being so stubborn and ruining this board for those who want to learn something rather then reading posts where arguements are constantly brought up again and again

[V]

i'm not getting involved in this arguement. there is no need to bring this up gain and again. if you want proof for or aginst the raag mala i can direct you to other sites.

stops being so stubborn and ruining this board for those who want to learn something rather then reading posts where arguements are constantly brought up again and again

BHaji i think u missunderstood me..

I'm not bringing up the discussions about Raagmala bani or not..

What I'm asking is.

IS THAT WHY THE EMPISIS it or not?

yes or No |

theres no arguement about it..

I'm just asking :wub:

I'm not begining any arguement

bhull chukk maaf!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee

Kee Fateh!!

[kam1825]

sorry just get bothered with the same endless arguements

no the emphesis is on the root of the exact bani itself.

such as with sashtervidiya all the manglecharans and the old puratan ardas is manglecharans from dasam and sarbloh granth.

they do not use this in order to prove authenticity of the raag mala.

that is another matter altogether.

i am more interested in the actual meaning of the word mangle charan.

it comes up so often in the bani of the tenth master guru gobind singh ji

[V]

sorry just get bothered with the same endless arguements

no the emphesis is on the root of the exact bani itself.

such as with sashtervidiya all the manglecharans and the old puratan ardas is manglecharans from dasam and sarbloh granth.

they do not use this in order to prove authenticity of the raag mala.

that is another matter altogether.

i am more interested in the actual meaning of the word mangle charan.

it comes up so often in the bani of the tenth master guru gobind singh ji

thank u for explaining to me..

as I'm a Moorakh with little knowledge..

my intention was in NO way to begin this arguement

bhull chukk maaf!

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!