Amritdharees Marrying Non Amritdharees

[Bored]

^ naa

and as u can see it is a about amritadi marrying non amritdari

im talkin about those that have one partner amritdari and the other aint

and alsso 4 those that wanna take who have never taken amrit shud take it b4 they get married

[jassa]

just giving info dont wanna argue or anything like that read it and forget it dont post ur views and questions ...

the mareyada followed at nihung dals sachkhand sri hazoor sahib and takth sri patna sahib regarding amritsanchar is that bibis are given amrit of kard reading japji sahib and 5 pauriyan of anand sahib ... and they are given khande da paul at later age ... why

when u take amrit both men and women become guru bhai and guru bhen ... that what punj peyare say from now you are brothers and sisters ... if both are amritdhari then form brother and sister relation then how come they make babies ???? whats defination of incest ???

till a women is in physical relation with her amritdhari husband she is not allowed to take khande di paul once both husband and wife decided not to have any more physical relation women should take khande di paul ...

thats the puratan mareyada which was followed at akal takth sahib which was changed in 1920s by scholars of SGPC ....

[Guest Akirtghan]

^^ why is that only women can't take amrit while men can? seems fishy to me

[Bored]

just giving info dont wanna argue or anything like that read it and forget it dont post ur views and questions ...

the mareyada followed at nihung dals sachkhand sri hazoor sahib and takth sri patna sahib regarding amritsanchar is that bibis are given amrit of kard reading japji sahib and 5 pauriyan of anand sahib ... and they are given khande da paul at later age ... why

when u take amrit both men and women become guru bhai and guru bhen ... that what punj peyare say from now you are brothers and sisters ... if both are amritdhari then form brother and sister relation then how come they make babies ???? whats defination of incest ???

till a women is in physical relation with her amritdhari husband she is not allowed to take khande di paul once both husband and wife decided not to have any more physical relation women should take khande di paul ...

thats the puratan mareyada which was followed at akal takth sahib which was changed in 1920s by scholars of SGPC ....

wats khande di paul ?

[Bijla Singh]

when u take amrit both men and women become guru bhai and guru bhen ... that what punj peyare say from now you are brothers and sisters ... if both are amritdhari then form brother and sister relation then how come they make babies ???? whats defination of incest ???

This is ridiculous. Sources much older than 1932 Rehat Maryada clearly state that only Amritdharis should get married. Kirpan Amrit is not valid. After taking Amrit, Sikhs are taught to respect women other than your spouse as your own sister, mother and daughter. Irrespective of woman's religion she must be respected the say way we would respect our own sisters i.e. never look at them lustfully. Joining the Khalsa Panth unites the humanity and breaks the barriers of caste and varna system. It gives equality and doesn't tie us in brother sister relationship. According to Bhatt Vahis, puratan women took Khaday Di Pahul including wives of Guru Sahib. Kirpan Amrit was used for new born babies and when they grew up, they were given Khanday Di Pahul.

[jassa]

then why was it being followed at akal takth sahib and even kessgarh sahib till 1930s ???

when ever a bibi ( non amritdhari/hindu ) gets married with amritdhari teyar bar teyar singh why kard di paul was made just before anadkarj not khande di paul even today among puratan singh communities living outside punjab since 200 - 100 years ago like in assam and hajjor sahib ????

yeah the women who took khande di paul even wives of guru sahib and other singhnis never had any physical relation after that .... even this comes in suraj parkash guru gobind singh ji followed 100 % brhamcharj after creating khalsa panth ...

[Bijla Singh]

then why was it being followed at akal takth sahib and even kessgarh sahib till 1930s ???

There were many anti-Sikh elements being practiced prior to 30s at Darbar Sahib. Should we bring back idols?

when ever a bibi ( non amritdhari/hindu ) gets married with amritdhari teyar bar teyar singh why kard di paul was made just before anadkarj not khande di paul even today among puratan singh communities living outside punjab since 200 - 100 years ago like in assam and hajjor sahib ????

This once again does not justify anything. Communities living outside Punjab have been isolated from Sikhi to a great extent. Look at followers of Guru Nanak Sahib in Nepal or at Hazoor Sahib. Their practices cannot be taken as authentic. Practice of one community does not justify it as being a Sikhi element.

yeah the women who took khande di paul even wives of guru sahib and other singhnis never had any physical relation after that .... even this comes in suraj parkash guru gobind singh ji followed 100 % brhamcharj after creating khalsa panth ...

Guru Sahib had decided not to have any kids years before Mata Sahib Kaur showed up. No historic source states what you are claiming. Many sources such as Mahima Parkash, Sau Sakhi, Sooraj Parkash and others talk about having marriage with only Amritdhari people but not a single one states that sexual abstinence is required after that. Take the example of Mayee Bhaag Kaur who was an Amritdhari and wanted to receive blessings from Guru Sahib to have a son. No historic source states that Amrit is for men only and once taken they cannot have physical relation with their spouse. Otherwise this would bring Amrit to the level of Buddhist celibacy. Amrit is for spiritual upliftment and mandatory for anyone who wishes to become guru-wala and get naam without which salvation is not possible. I am sure you know what Gurbani says about niguray people.

Kirpan Amrit has been refuted here - http://www.amritworld.com/kirpan_da_amrit.html

[CaptainC]

when ever a bibi ( non amritdhari/hindu ) gets married with amritdhari teyar bar teyar singh ..

ok so wait wait

"Tyar bar Tyar" Singhs married Hindus aswell?

something dont sound right man

[singhni wannabe]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

I think you bit confused both man and women should be amritdharis wen they get married! you shld see or girls as sisters and men as brothers until you get marries however wen u get married it changes and they no longer are their brother!! when you get married you marry your guru when amritdhari wedding has a stronger significance not just marrying husband but your guru as well.

sorry if i have defended any1

vaheguroo ji ka khalsa vaheguroo ji ki fateh :TH:

[Guest Narinder Singh]

I dont know if anyone else has noticed, but Jassa (who has a lot to say) uses everything OUTSIDE of Gurbani to justify his wacky beliefs.

Stick to gurmat man, not he-said she-said fairytales.

Fateh.