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I read about Raja Ranjit Singh (sorry but Maharaj is something we should use for only Gurujee, so I prefer to call him Raja) in the book "The Sikhs" by well-known Sikh author Patwant Singh. He writes that Ranjit Singh ji was very clever, and he signed a treaty with the British, as per which the British would not help the Afghans/Pathaans against the Sikhs in any way. The English officer said to Ranjit Singh ji "You will see the benefits of this treaty in 20 years". What happened after that? There were many battles between Sikhs vs Afghans/Pathaans. Those guys ran to the British asking for ammunition, but as the treaty was made, the British refused to help the Afghans/Pathaans militarily. Thus the Afghans/Pathaans got bashed up by the Sikhs, and after 20 years, the borders of Punjab were from Delhi to Kabul.

Now, if India had a leader like that today, te may kenna Amreeka India sammne apney goddeyaan te aa janda.

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The main gripe from people, including myself , against Maharaja Ramjit Singh was that in his time he vested more power in the non-sikh people than he did in Sikhs, or the 5 pyare. Gurmata was never done during his rule.

1 example. Hari Singh Nalwa wrote many letters to Maharaja asking for supplies in Naushera against the afghans. Dogra dhian hid all the letters that Nalwa sent. Maharaja on finding out the dogra hid the letters , still did not remove him from his position, even tho the dogra had comiiteed treason. things like this left power in the wrong hands, and within 10 years of Maharaja ji's death, sikh raaj completely went.

In these days with the Khalistan movement and the loss we've suffered since 1947, people say that if Maharaja Ranjit Singh had been more prudent with his raaj, we would never have had to see such days. I think they have a point.

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yh he might of been a bad sikh, but he was more of a sikh then nearly all of us today. why is it when a religious sikh does things, all his bad actions are looked at first. if a mona does seva but does some bad things too, them bad action will neverbe brought up.

look at ranjit singh dhadrianwale, yh he commited a mistake, wearing a kalgi. he was at a young age, today he still says sorry in every programe he does. but do we go to look at the person or to listen to bani.

When maharaja ranjit singh did commit sins, he went for pesh, how many of us can stand up with a rope tied around us facing the harmandir sahib with our hands joint for the whole day, after weve been beaten. how many of us can even admit that they need to go for pesh?

u guys who do hold somthing against him there wouldent be hazoor sahib if it wasent for him, guru gobind singh said any one who builds somthing here after he goes will have nothing left at all. maharaja ranjit said if guru ji can give up hes four sons for us, he surely can give up everthing of hes.

And that gold on harmandir sahib was placed by him, if he wanted to he could of built a gold house for himself, but have u seen his house it aint no palace, its a standard house.

Who are we to judge people.

And what sins did he commit that we dont commit today.

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yh he might of been a bad sikh, but he was more of a sikh then nearly all of us today. why is it when a religious sikh does things, all his bad actions are looked at first. if a mona does seva but does some bad things too, them bad action will neverbe brought up.

look at ranjit singh dhadrianwale, yh he commited a mistake, wearing a kalgi. he was at a young age, today he still says sorry in every programe he does. but do we go to look at the person or to listen to bani.

When maharaja ranjit singh did commit sins, he went for pesh, how many of us can stand up with a rope tied around us facing the harmandir sahib with our hands joint for the whole day, after weve been beaten. how many of us can even admit that they need to go for pesh?

u guys who do hold somthing against him there wouldent be hazoor sahib if it wasent for him, guru gobind singh said any one who builds somthing here after he goes will have nothing left at all. maharaja ranjit said if guru ji can give up hes four sons for us, he surely can give up everthing of hes.

And that gold on harmandir sahib was placed by him, if he wanted to he could of built a gold house for himself, but have u seen his house it aint no palace, its a standard house.

Who are we to judge people.

And what sins did he commit that we dont commit today.

Well said, bro. d_oh.gif

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wow good points G.I. Jatt.

never saw it like that.

you know all this is tied to a sovereign sikh homeland in a way. hold on, hear me out....

great sikh leaders, great sikh writers of the past, great sikh warriors, who not only shaped the sikh community but also served the greater good of the whole hindustan region are not part of the Indian school system curriculum.

the education on great sikh personalities has solely been on the shoulders of dhaadis who sing from gurdwara to gurdwara, SGPC backed schools, and other instituions supported by private panthic organizations.

there is no national level backing of teaching sikh history as a national subject.

every person in india gets educated and quizzed on Nehru, Gandhi, because they are national icons. they are indian national figures.

thye sikh nation's figures have been wholeheartedly ignored and the burden of the education on sikh figures ahs fallen squarely on the likes of teh SGPC, which as we all know is not doing what it was originally set up to do.

in a way, only strong sikh nationalism can educate the masses about leaders such as Rajah Ranjit Singh. Our history, our present, and our future is something which India doesn't touch.

Indian always talks about integration, well real integration is respecting all of india's unique religions and cultures. why shouldn't rajah ranjit singh be studied by people in Chennai and Bangalore in schools? Why isn't sikh history an integral part of Indian history?

my relatives study in schools in India and they constanty learn about Gandhia nd Nheru and I ask them, do you guys learn any sikh history, they so No, not in schools, sometimes in the gurdwara when someone makes a speech or something.

think about it.

in america, we learn about native americans even though they are so small in number now. american history classes don't just ignore them as if they never had any part in the shaping of america.

how does india's history classes ignore sikhs?

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That is so well said yaar....respect to the Maharaja

yh he might of been a bad sikh, but he was more of a sikh then nearly all of us today. why is it when a religious sikh does things, all his bad actions are looked at first. if a mona does seva but does some bad things too, them bad action will neverbe brought up.

look at ranjit singh dhadrianwale, yh he commited a mistake, wearing a kalgi. he was at a young age, today he still says sorry in every programe he does. but do we go to look at the person or to listen to bani.

When maharaja ranjit singh did commit sins, he went for pesh, how many of us can stand up with a rope tied around us facing the harmandir sahib with our hands joint for the whole day, after weve been beaten. how many of us can even admit that they need to go for pesh?

u guys who do hold somthing against him there wouldent be hazoor sahib if it wasent for him, guru gobind singh said any one who builds somthing here after he goes will have nothing left at all. maharaja ranjit said if guru ji can give up hes four sons for us, he surely can give up everthing of hes.

And that gold on harmandir sahib was placed by him, if he wanted to he could of built a gold house for himself, but have u seen his house it aint no palace, its a standard house.

Who are we to judge people.

And what sins did he commit that we dont commit today.

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u guys who do hold somthing against him there wouldent be hazoor sahib if it wasent for him, guru gobind singh said any one who builds somthing here after he goes will have nothing left at all. maharaja ranjit said if guru ji can give up hes four sons for us, he surely can give up everthing of hes.

And that gold on harmandir sahib was placed by him, if he wanted to he could of built a gold house for himself, but have u seen his house it aint no palace, its a standard house.

Why did Guru ji said that...that seems like a "shraap". I have heard "shraap" only in devi devtas stories, why would guru ji give "shraap"...or say something like that. Guru ji very well know everything here is temporary and doesn't count at all......why would he care if something is built after him or not.

Also, Maharaja Ranjit singh tried to handover his kingdom to his son.....he was not under the impression that his family will not survive.

And what is the source of the above quote......do you have any reference from guru ji times or it is just that u have heard it somewhere?

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u guys who do hold somthing against him there wouldent be hazoor sahib if it wasent for him, guru gobind singh said any one who builds somthing here after he goes will have nothing left at all. maharaja ranjit said if guru ji can give up hes four sons for us, he surely can give up everthing of hes.

And that gold on harmandir sahib was placed by him, if he wanted to he could of built a gold house for himself, but have u seen his house it aint no palace, its a standard house.

Why did Guru ji said that...that seems like a "shraap". I have heard "shraap" only in devi devtas stories, why would guru ji give "shraap"...or say something like that. Guru ji very well know everything here is temporary and doesn't count at all......why would he care if something is built after him or not.

Also, Maharaja Ranjit singh tried to handover his kingdom to his son.....he was not under the impression that his family will not survive.

And what is the source of the above quote......do you have any reference from guru ji times or it is just that u have heard it somewhere?

reference: go to sri hazoor sahib sachkhand !

and also ever time they take out a weapon of sri guru gobind singh ji, the thank maharaja ranjit singh.

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