Tomorrow [bandhi Chor Or Diwali]

[TeriSharan.]

Guru Nanak is the highest and greatest of all!!!

Gur Nanak jinn suniya pekhiya, te phir garbhaas na pariya re||

(Whoever has listened to Guru Nanak (listened to his updesh i.e. Gur Shabad) and whoever has attained darshan of Guru Nanak, has never come back to the womb of mother (i.e. has been relieved from this cycle of birth and death).

JESUS CHRIST NEVER ACCEPTED VAAHEGUROO'S BHANNA WHEN HE WAS BE CRUCIFIED

MOHAMMED GOT EGO AND PRIDE BECAUSE HE WANTED ALL THE ARAB COUNTRIES

KRISHNA HAD 100 WIVES! (GUPES)

They were given limited power by vaaheguroo

IF ONE WORSHIPS JESUS, FURTHEST THEY CAN ONLY GET INTO IS HEAVEN

IF ONE WORSHIPS MOHAMMED, FURTHEST THEY CAN ONLY GET INTO IS HEAVEN (RIVERS OF WINE AND VIRGINS)

IF ONE WORSHIPS KRISHNA, FURTHEST THEY CAN ONLY GET INTO IS GIAN KHAND!!

IF ONE FOLLOWS THE TEACHING OF GURU NANAK (NAAM DE DAATE), THEY CAN GET INTO SACHKHAND!!

DHAN GURU NANAK DEV JEE WAS GIVEN UNLIMITED POWER BY VAHEGUROO JEE TO SAVE KALJUG!!

VAAHEGUROO AND OUR GURU SAHIBAN ARE THE SAME!!!

guru prmysru eyku hY sB mih rihAw smwie ]

gur paramaesar eaek hai sabh mehi rehiaa samaae ||

The Guru and the Transcendent Lord are one and the same, pervading and permeating amongst all.

gur pwrbRhm eykY hI jwny ]2]

gur paarabreham eaekai hee jaanae ||2||

one sees the Guru and the Supreme Lord God as one and the same. ||2||

[OhTwadi]

sikh_youth_uk, you are really really really really really lost mate. even after sangat has provided more than enough references from gurbani, you still dont want to back down

[sikh_youth_uk]

sikh_youth_uk, you are really really really really really lost mate. even after sangat has provided more than enough references from gurbani, you still dont want to back down

Chapter 1 Verse 1 Word 1

Ik Onkar = ONE GOD

[Bundha]

JAAP SAHIB (Guru Gobind Singh Ji ) - Anekh hey fir ekh hey - He is INFINATE in his forms, yet He is One.

[OhTwadi]

oh my good lord in heaven

did you even read the dasam bani link that was provided

"The people on the whole considered them as separate ones, but there were few who recognized them as one and the same."

- http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&...=t&id=68194

go back, re-read some of the bani tuks posted, if you still dont agree, then GOD HELP YOU !!!!

** throws in the towel and walks outta this thread **

[sikh_youth_uk]

To say all the Gurus are God is going down the Hindu DEITY route where everyone or even everything is God. Which Sikhi doesn’t follow.

If you follow the monotheism path, which is what Sikhi is, the Gurus again cant be God.

[Bundha]

<<< To say all the Gurus are God is going down the Hindu DEITY route where everyone or even everything is God. >>>

" Mann too jyote saroop hey, apna mool machaan "

[Guest peacemaker]

To say all the Gurus are God is going down the Hindu DEITY route where everyone or even everything is God. Which Sikhi doesn’t follow.

If you follow the monotheism path, which is what Sikhi is, the Gurus again cant be God.

You're very confused!!!!! You were trying to confuse me yesterday too, but not today. God help you!

[TeriSharan.]

To say all the Gurus are God is going down the Hindu DEITY route where everyone or even everything is God. Which Sikhi doesn’t follow.

If you follow the monotheism path, which is what Sikhi is, the Gurus again cant be God.

guru prmysru eyku hY sB mih rihAw smwie ]

gur paramaesar eaek hai sabh mehi rehiaa samaae ||

The Guru and the Transcendent Lord are one and the same, pervading and permeating amongst all.

If you believe in guru granth sahib jee as ur guru, it says in this tuk that vaaheguroo and guru are one = the same.

"gur paramaesar eaek hai"

[tableji]

did anyone ever think that gurbani is discourse between the Gurus, and their mind? What about when kabeer ji says,

sMqw mwnau dUqw fwnau ieh kutvwrI myrI ]

sa(n)thaa maano dhoothaa ddaano eih kuttavaaree maeree ||

I honor and obey the Saints, and punish the wicked; this is my duty as God's police officer.

idvs rYin qyry pwau plosau kys cvr kir PyrI ]1]

dhivas rain thaerae paao paloso kaes chavar kar faeree ||1||

Day and night, I wash Your feet, Lord; I wave my hair as the chauree, to brush away the flies. ||1||

hm kUkr qyry drbwir ]

ham kookar thaerae dharabaar ||

I am a dog at Your Court, Lord.

Baukih AwgY bdnu pswir ]1] rhwau ]

bhoukehi aagai badhan pasaar ||1|| rehaao ||

I open my snout and bark before it. ||1||Pause||

Also, no-one has yet proved that any of the gurus fulfill moolmanter.

This concept that guru and vaheguru are the same.

nwnk pRBu pwieAw mY swcw nw kdy mrY n jweI ]4]1]3]

naanak prabh paaeiaa mai saachaa naa kadhae marai n jaaee ||4||1||3||

O Nanak, I have found my True Lord God, who never dies, and is not born. ||4||1||3||

How can Guruji say he has found his True Lord God, if he is God himself?

also in respect of

guru prmysru eyko jwxu ]

gur paramaesar eaeko jaan ||

Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One.

jo iqsu BwvY so prvwxu ]1] rhwau ]

jo this bhaavai so paravaan ||1|| rehaao ||

Whatever pleases Him is acceptable and approved. ||1||Pause||

Did it ever occur that the tukh can be translated as, the Guru is parmesar? ie, Know that God is Transcendent

and in respect of this shabad:

Gur Nanak jinn suniya pekhiya, te phir garbhaas na pariya re||

(Whoever has listened to Guru Nanak (listened to his updesh i.e. Gur Shabad) and whoever has attained darshan of Guru Nanak, has never come back to the womb of mother (i.e. has been relieved from this cycle of birth and death).

Bhai Kulbir Singh on tapoban website has posted a shabad discussing the concept of bisrams! (like a comma)

imagine the shabad above with commas,

gur, nanak jin suniya, pekhiya, te phir garbhaas na pariya re

God, nanak says (guruji is talkin to himself) who has seen you, heard you, they will escape the cycle of birth and death.