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Gurfateh

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Bhai Amritpal Singh ji met Baba Balbeer Singh Ji on 29.09.2007 and requested for the same so as a result we find updating.

Main reason das finds for opposition to Baba Ji is due to these facts.

1.He is an out caste(Vratya).

2.He is not oppose to let out caste(Chandalas ie Ramdasiyas and Majhabis) have same bowl of amrit as other castes have.

3.He allows Chandalas to sit in same Langer as other castes.

4.He allows them to enter the Bibecki kitchen.

5.He has no opposition for Dasyus(people from non Hindu Back ground ie MUslims,Christians or Jews or black or white under going baptim with Budhadal).

inspite of being from Jaat Father das is with this out caste Jathedar.Salute him.ready to die for him if needed.Gurfateh

http://budhadal.com/pictures.htm

Bhai Amritpal Singh ji met Baba Balbeer Singh Ji on 29.09.2007 and requested for the same so as a result we find updating.

Main reason das finds for opposition to Baba Ji is due to these facts.

1.He is an out caste(Vratya).

2.He is not oppose to let out caste(Chandalas ie Ramdasiyas and Majhabis) have same bowl of amrit as other castes have.

3.He allows Chandalas to sit in same Langer as other castes.

4.He allows them to enter the Bibecki kitchen.

5.He has no opposition for Dasyus(people from non Hindu Back ground ie MUslims,Christians or Jews or black or white under going baptim with Budhadal).

inspite of being from Jaat Father das is with this out caste Jathedar.Salute him.ready to die for him if needed.

see the picture of Bhai Sangat Singh and Bhai Jewan Singh Ji Raghureta.This is start of deprived getting aware.Akal Bless.

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Very intelligent tactics, raise those issues that will undoubtedly increase Balbirs support. If Balbir Singh is so anti-caste, then please tell me why he along with many others has voiced his opinion against Baba Joginder Singh - the only Jathedar in Budha Dal who makes sure theres langar at samagams, despite Balbir and others criticising his stance of allowing Mazbhis and all others to participate in seva. I am very happy if Balbir has taken an anti caste discrimination position, but I am pretty sure that theres a clever attempt to gain mainstream support going on here.

You may want to include the following to your list of why Balbir lacks support of any Nihang Singh Dal (he is supported by SGPC and 'Sant' Joga Singh form Karnala and God forbid it appears sell outs from the sant samaj may also join him);

- Everyone knows it was Balbir who got Jathedar Baba Kharag Singh killed - a Nihang Singh who at the time was perhaps more resepcted by other Singhs even more so than Baba Santa Singh. He was loved by all but was hated by the government for openly giving langar to the Kharkhoo Singhs. There was no doubt that he would have succeeded Baba Santa Singh as Jathedar of Budha Dal, there would have been no challenge such was the resepect he demanded. He was incharge of the horse dal which was taken over by Baba Surjit Singh after he was murdered.

- Although theres a nice story about Balbir Singh leaving the Dal in opposed to Baba Santa Singhs stance during 1984, common sense begs the question why he waited so many years before leaving the Budha Dal. He was infact kicked out of Damdama Sahib by Baba Santa Singh Ji along with other Singh for doing something they shouldnt have been doing. Being the ex garvaee of Baba Santa Singh he was welcomed with open arms by Badals servants.

- Numerous Nihang Singhs which he tortured who have spoken out against him, forceflly taking over chaunees of the Budha Dal and having Nihang Singhs imprisoned.

- Selling off Budha Dal propery, who sold many acres of Budha Dal land which was on the main road in Ludhiana. Subsequently there is now a toilet where the Khalsa Nishan Sahib once proudly stood. And ofcourse he is also giving away much of Budha Dals property to the SGPC, who if I remember correctly announced last year that they will be selling extra land to raise funds, God knows what for.

- Where as other mahapursh in Budha Dal wake up at 12, he wakes up around 8 oclock and makes his way into the Durbar Sahib just before the Bhog at 10 oclock. Of course the circus that comes in with disturbs all those and makes those Singhs move which have been sitting in Durbar since 2 am.

- Putting false cases on Baba Surjit Singh and the dal Singhs whilst treating Baba Santa Singh in what can only be described as sub-human conditions.

- Claiming himself to be Jathedar, when he doesnt even have a farla.

I cant really be bother going on, the man has done so much nuksaan (negative effects) on the Panth over the past few years, any Nihang Singh in India can tell you of his kartootha. I think its pretty funny how people are now trying to portray him as the good guy who eliminates the bad elelements from Budha Dal. Hilarously dispicable!

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Everyone knows it was Balbir who got Jathedar Baba Kharag Singh killed - a Nihang Singh who at the time was perhaps more resepcted by other Singhs even more so than Baba Santa Singh. He was loved by all but was hated by the government for openly giving langar to the Kharkhoo Singhs. There was no doubt that he would have succeeded Baba Santa Singh as Jathedar of Budha Dal, there would have been no challenge such was the resepect he demanded. He was incharge of the horse dal which was taken over by Baba Surjit Singh after he was murdered.

If everone knows then why not he is tried under IPC 302 or 303 or which ever

- Although theres a nice story about Balbir Singh leaving the Dal in opposed to Baba Santa Singhs stance during 1984, common sense begs the question why he waited so many years before leaving the Budha Dal. He was infact kicked out of Damdama Sahib by Baba Santa Singh Ji along with other Singh for doing something they shouldnt have been doing. Being the ex garvaee of Baba Santa Singh he was welcomed with open arms by Badals servants.

This is again wrong.He is still not near to Badal but Chandu Majra.In Past he was near to Tohra.As per him only Bade Baba Ji invited him back.why should have he been invited then?

one more thing that why did Bade Baba Ji(Singh Sahib Santa Singh ji withdrew Baba surjit Singh ji and how Baba Uday rasied from a peon in factory to head of Budha dal?)

- Numerous Nihang Singhs which he tortured who have spoken out against him, forceflly taking over chaunees of the Budha Dal and having Nihang Singhs imprisoned.

These noumours Singhs did have grudes for his being Vrtaya and were conspiring since April2007.

- Selling off Budha Dal propery, who sold many acres of Budha Dal land which was on the main road in Ludhiana. Subsequently there is now a toilet where the Khalsa Nishan Sahib once proudly stood. And ofcourse he is also giving away much of Budha Dals property to the SGPC, who if I remember correctly announced last year that they will be selling extra land to raise funds, God knows what for.

There are more hoaxes.Yuo will soon find newer chavanis in western and eastern parts of India.Are you sure that Baba Uday Singh also did not sell any property of Budhadal.

- Where as other mahapursh in Budha Dal wake up at 12, he wakes up around 8 oclock and makes his way into the Durbar Sahib just before the Bhog at 10 oclock. Of course the circus that comes in with disturbs all those and makes those Singhs move which have been sitting in Durbar since 2 am.

Das has seen uper caste Jamindars making such false accusition against lower castes other like Churas eating dead animals,other trimming beard so far and so forth.Not new as per propoganda warfare.

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Putting false cases on Baba Surjit Singh and the dal Singhs whilst treating Baba Santa Singh in what can only be described as sub-human conditions.

If Baba Ji are true then why is is still running from police or has he surrerendered.Do not tell das who stands where.(kindly PM das for more unto this that how and why Baba Balbeer Singh Ji are at loggerhead with Badal sahib as on 21st Badal did not come to funeral of his familymembers).

- Claiming himself to be Jathedar, when he doesnt even have a farla.

He has pledge to take Pharla of Bade Baba Ji only(ie Singh Sahib Baba Santa Singh Ji).

I cant really be bother going on, the man has done so much nuksaan (negative effects) on the Panth over the past few years, any Nihang Singh in India can tell you of his kartootha. I think its pretty funny how people are now trying to portray him as the good guy who eliminates the bad elelements from Budha Dal. Hilarously dispicable!

This is the tranistion period of class conflict as while Baba Balbeer Singh run is parallel Budha Dal,there was no Chutha Paur(out castes).

15 days before his family was killed Das went to him and told him to open two centres of Hajuri Singhs so that Chautha Paur get baptism from them.or at least sepearte bowl for each as upper caste do not want to drink left over of lower caste.He said no.

He is for one bowl for all.

Das is not having the grudge for other side.and could be helping them also.But the way they have adopted by now is going to take them for doom.

Siding with those who are hell bent to dilute the unity of Sikhs.

Belive it that das is working for truce with other with Baba Balbeer Singh ji and due to this his men are not let him come in direct contact with das.

Yet there are mnay other forces whith which only Baba Balbeer Singh Ji can tackle.Weather others help him or not.(PM das for more details).

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the reason why people oppose balbeer is because

1) Hes a paedophile

2) He drinks alcohol

3) He's an associate of notorious NANG PHOOLA

4) Many of his cronies such as notorius 'waheguru singh' have raped young girls

5) He was bemukh from budha dal for 21 years

6) Hes an Indian Government Agent

7) He;s married only a celibate singh can be jathedar

8) He hasnt got a farlaa - because everyone knows about his paedophilic antics!

the list is endless - can the admin lock this thread as its going to be is BAQWAAS

And have you got any Facts to prove these accusations agaisnt Balbeer Singh? :@grin.gif

Not that I care who he is and what you guys are arguing about :lol:

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Gurfateh

Baba Chet Singh Ji used to take Panj Ratani in garhwa and only Baba Santa Singh Ji stopped Alchhal and das saw men of Baba Balbeer Singh Ji kicking out a drunkered Nihung from a Chavani.

Was Baba binod Singh of Jassa Singh Ahluwal unmarried?

others things needs prrof and police reports and Farla Thing das has alsready told.

Das repeats that he is not as much anti to other side but before getting Jathedari Baba Santa Singh Ji also told that he will stop separate Amrit.But he could not.

While he was away from manin budhdal ,Baba Balber Singh had only one bowl of Amrit.

Just for racial ego and get the things done.Das has seen Ladli Fauj telling all bunches of lies instead of doing anything contructive.

This is something anyway contructive.

OK let Baba Surjit Singh Ji when ever he surrenders or gets bail eat in same plate which has been already been used by Baba Kulwant Singh Sodi(Tarna Dal Raghureta Barnala) or Baba Baldev Singh(Tarna Dal Baba Sangat Singh).Then we will understand that he had no hidden agenda.

Behind the doors you guys call them Churha Chamar do not you? and make false accusation againt them as they are been made for Baba Balbeer Singh Ji.

There are laws in India and these outcastes do not know or sometime due to loyalty to you stay dumb.

But outsiders can snatch them from you and use them against you.

Das has already gave good account to Bhai Charandhur Singh Ji about this.

Das is mad and <banned word filter activated>.Das is making you all Malechh but you will still reamin in Dal Panth.

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