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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Well said Chatanga. This attitude can be seen everywhere. Rather than oppose what 'money-focusing' committees are doing in our Gurughar and try to do something about it, we see the best solution is to just boycott them and hope one day someone else will come along and remove the people in power or change the way our our Gurughars are run. But that aint guna happen. We have to do something. We have to show that we do care about what goes on in our Gurudwaras.

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can u imagine in what state the panth wuld be in now, if in 1920 the Sikhs had decided to Boycott Nanakana Sahib instead of throwing the mahants out? it would have been easier for the Sikhs to have jus gone elsewhere. But true to thier Guru they they did the rght thing. gave thier lives for Gurdwara and the restoration of maryada. its an example for us all.

but what are todays Sikhs made of? with thier " we'll go where this duznt happen" . it dont solve nufffin. i know that the akj have not held any progs at wedensfield cos of their party hall. This duznt make the akj any bigger or better, if anything it makes us losers, as the mahants of these times know that our stay away policy means they get a free ride...

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i am not any officIAL spokeperson for the 'akjs' as u say. Also it wasn't just akj who stopped dong progs there. Singhs moved Baba'jis barsi from there (i think 1 or maybe 2 yrs ago) because of this very practice.

but as i said before, personally i think it's okay to boycot something you don't agree with in the short term, espially a beadbi like party halls and sharab in gurdwara owned buildings but still try to resolve the issue in the long term

and with this particurlar issue at wednesfield. thats EXACTLY what happened

Singhs may have stopped doin progs there in the short term, but in the long run they did apply pressure and made their feelings known and were in communication with the Gursikhs who helped stop the practice. Just because you might not no who's been involved behind closed doors, doesn't mean the Singhs haven't in some way been involved. There's mores ways of stopping something than just 'makin a song and dance and goin in and kicking the bad guys' out'.

With wednesfield situation, if singhs from outside had got involved directly with the 'committee members' doing the beadbi, the committee members woudl have just put up more of a barrier. it's the old mentaltiy of 'it's our territory, so our choice, who are U!!'.

However there was one local Gursikh already involved in the committee, and thus it was the best and most logical way for him to try and change it from inside, and even though he got alot of hassle from both sides, with Guru's kirpa the practice as stopped.

In addition SInghs met with committee members to give other options of putting the hall to good use, such as turning it into a community centre etc and also offered sup[port to do this, and as far as i am aware, thats what is happening now

at the end of the day, the practice as stopped, MOST IMPORTANTLY GURU SAHIBs BEADBI HAS STOPPED, there's a potental of a community centre if local sangat support the sevadars trying to set it up and there's a rain-sbai happening this week, end of!

to me thats a result all round :s )))))))))

let us meet as sangat and get's guru sahibs blessings

Gurfateh ji

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Well said Chatanga. This attitude can be seen everywhere. Rather than oppose what 'money-focusing' committees are doing in our Gurughar and try to do something about it, we see the best solution is to just boycott them and hope one day someone else will come along and remove the people in power or change the way our our Gurughars are run. But that aint guna happen. We have to do something. We have to show that we do care about what goes on in our Gurudwaras.

Bhull Chuk Maaf

can u imagine in what state the panth wuld be in now, if in 1920 the Sikhs had decided to Boycott Nanakana Sahib instead of throwing the mahants out? it would have been easier for the Sikhs to have jus gone elsewhere. But true to thier Guru they they did the rght thing. gave thier lives for Gurdwara and the restoration of maryada. its an example for us all.

but what are todays Sikhs made of? with thier " we'll go where this duznt happen" . it dont solve nufffin. i know that the akj have not held any progs at wedensfield cos of their party hall. This duznt make the akj any bigger or better, if anything it makes us losers, as the mahants of these times know that our stay away policy means they get a free ride...

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