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SSA JI

Dhanwaad Ji, saareya da..for sharing ur views

Par main theeth, ik vaari fer koshish karan gi ke main kehna ki chaundi haan. Ik hor example tuhade samhney rankhna chaundi aan...and like always im trying to get my point across, here i go again..i'll try to keep it short and simple.

Ok, so, when we talk to our friends or anybody who dnt knw, about what our dress "code" is or what we are expected to wear, when we go to gurudwaras, i would like to hear from you all, what do u tell them? I probably dont hav to state it all here, as u all already knw the answer...

BUT, here is an example that our own people/sikhs are presenting an image of themselves that others blv to b true, I found this image while surfing da web and on flickr a lady posted this picture and her words are:

(here's da link for the picture) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lavannya/146634240/

A few friends here and me took a trip to the local Gurudwara. We all wanted some insight into Sikhism.

What I experienced and felt was so much warmth and love, such sanctity and yet freedom, such a lot of sense of community and unity.. that i am moved!

You can be dressed however, and be whoever and yet be welcome at the Gurudwara... all you need to do is cover your head.

Is this true? Do you all seriously think it is ok for sikh man and woman to dress like they want to gurudwara sahib ji? Is it proper? isnt there somethin expected of us?

Thats why im saying that FORGET BOLLYWOOD FOR A SECOND, Think about what our own people are doing first...WHAT IMAGE ARE THEY PRESENTING OF THIER OWN, TO THE WORLD? Tomorrow this person would go on and tell others of this...which is not true at all.

(If any questions or concerns about my point of the dress "code"-plz do read the article i posted titled "PAGG KYON?" in the articles section on this forum)

DHANWAAD JI

BHULL CHUKK MAAF!

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Kaur Khalistani and Balti are correct! if these bollywood guys would stop degrading the image of a singh then alot of my person friends would probably have kesh.
But doesn't that bring out insecurity on our part? :s No offense but, we shouldn't balme "others" for our own shortcomings.

Yes everyone is at different levels, we can say that "hey, I can't keep kesh/read bani/take amrit etc... due to my own short comings" instead of saying, "hey, I can't do it because of the way sikhs are portrayed in society"

Exactly!

Dhanwaad ji, for makin that point..very clear.

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i agree with u kaur...there is no doubt that we need to fix things up, be strong sikhs ourselves...

but the way u presented the information...it gives the other the view that we shouldnt worry about what bollywood movie nd what movie makers are doing...instead shift that energy towards helping our own people know about sikhi.

(im not sure if thats what u are trying to say...cuz we all interpret things differently )

when u say that we shouldnt worry about what they are doing..that statement comes out to be totally not correct.

some people saw that bollywood is one of the things which is misleading the youth...thus they are trying to take action. and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT. lets not forget that there are many who are trying to teach people about what sikhi is ...the camps, retreats, sikhi workshops, and sikh associations.

and these are the few who are also takin action against bollywood movies. when u know something is causing a change...and know that ITS NOT A GOOD CHANGE...as a citizen u would want to put a stop to it...cuz u and ur own generations will be effected by it. bollywood has brought a lot of change in eastern community...and i am sure many of us would agree that its not a good kind of change.

i am not sure if u are talkin about the bombin of the cinema in Ludihana, well if its baout that....we know that its not something most people would approve of doin.

am i saying u are wrong when u say we need better media? no

am i saying u are wrong to say that we need to teach what sikhi is? no

all i see it as is that group of people see smething wrong ...and they wanna change it....do we need everyone to be teaching others sikhi? umm yes in an ideal world maybe, but reality is that not everyones capable of teaching sikhi to anyone

so again what u are saying is correct we do need to worry about teaching sikhi(its happning), but at the same time if our people see that something needs to be changed nd they take action against it...there is nothing wrong with it. i see it as thats what sikhs are suppose to do.

bhul chuk muaff karni

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!

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SSA JI,

Yea true, i agree with u as well.. we need to take action and most people are, and yea if they're seeing something wrong they're putting it up front. But again we can only take action and change othas' views if we knw somthin bout sikhi ourselves...

You'll probably think people on this forum know a lot about sikhi and some might be jst learning...but im sure no1 here is so much of an ignorant not to knw dat We, sikhs, dont put up Caste system in order to b frnds with anybody. im sure we all know that sikhs don't/shudn't care about caste system...we mainly look or should i say, we should look at everyone as human beings.. ya? We all are equal is what sikhi teaches, men and women are equal and so on. Not to mention any names, I came across one person on this very forum who was trying to put me down because of the caste system i belong in. I think s/he's an amritdhaari, and surely does kirtan, thought i'd probably learn somthin frm him/her but im not afraid to say, s/he's not much of a sikh himself/herself, s/he only shows to have that image "wears the 5ks" but really, how much of a sikh is s/he?

Another point i want to make here...yes bollywood is not presenting the right image of sikhs "Akshay kumar with a paggri but clean shaven" hehe, hey atleast he has a paggri on. I jst saw a song on our punjabi channel which our /sikh youth is most likely to watch..or listen to. The song is sung by Miss Pooja "MAINU PAGG WALA MUNDA PASAND MUNDEYA". Now, do i need to say more?

Bhull Chukk Maaf Ji!

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Guest PunjabSingh

Since people are particularly talking about the so called "Singh is King" I would like to inform that just 3-4 days back this Akhshay Kumar was in a village in Ropar district for this very movie but no one protested against this visit .

Hindi movie hero,heroines are icons of today's Punjabi youths where as their heros should be heros from our own Sikh history who fought valiantly against tyranny and for truth .

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Again i was jst lookin through threads/posts, i saw this thread titled "Singh is King" and many of you replied very hatefully towards da media..as if its all these bollywood ppl's fault...well..ya i agree they shudnt b comin up wid such movies but think about it...i blv dat it all depends on one's thinking..saadi soch te depend karda ke assin oh bollywood waleya de tareeke nu app-naunde aan ja thukraunde haan.. it all depends on us as individuals, ke do we want to adapt to what da media wants us to adapt to? It all depends on us, if we, sikhs, want to look or give ourselves da image dat da media presents sikhs as. Forget about what da world (non-sikhs) would think of us..forget about what kind of image they would or they hold in their heads...i think we should all think/worry bout our own ppl first, and give them da knowledege of a true sikh, of what being a sikh really means.

In a same way, as most of us are out here...far away from our homeland..Panjab. We see lots of sikhs/desi ppl adapting to da western culture...why?? Oh saadi rees nai karde taan saade lokki ohna pishey kion ghumde ne? ohna da culture kion appnaunde ne? who are we to blame? u think we should all together blame the westerns?? i dnt think so. Saade apneya di hee ghallti hai...its our own ppl who are being moderns. We shouldnt b blaming anyone for what our sikh youth is involved in...its well said ke "Kamal da phull chikkarr (mudd/pond) vich uggda par kadee gandaa nai hunda" it doesnt really matter da kind of environment we're growin up in...wat matters is, ke assi apne sabheyachaar nu chette rakheya hai ke nai..do we knw our roots or not??

APNE VICHAAR JAROOR SANJHI KAREYO JI!

DO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS/CONCERNS, PLEASE!

Bhull Chukk Maaf!

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SSA JI

Again i was jst lookin through threads/posts, i saw this thread titled "Singh is King" and many of you replied very hatefully towards da media..as if its all these bollywood ppl's fault...well..ya i agree they shudnt b comin up wid such movies but think about it...i blv dat it all depends on one's thinking..saadi soch te depend karda ke assin oh bollywood waleya de tareeke nu app-naunde aan ja thukraunde haan.. it all depends on us as individuals, ke do we want to adapt to what da media wants us to adapt to? It all depends on us, if we, sikhs, want to look or give ourselves da image dat da media presents sikhs as. Forget about what da world (non-sikhs) would think of us..forget about what kind of image they would or they hold in their heads...i think we should all think/worry bout our own ppl first, and give them da knowledege of a true sikh, of what being a sikh really means.

In a same way, as most of us are out here...far away from our homeland..Panjab. We see lots of sikhs/desi ppl adapting to da western culture...why?? Oh saadi rees nai karde taan saade lokki ohna pishey kion ghumde ne? ohna da culture kion appnaunde ne? who are we to blame? u think we should all together blame the westerns?? i dnt think so. Saade apneya di hee ghallti hai...its our own ppl who are being moderns. We shouldnt b blaming anyone for what our sikh youth is involved in...its well said ke "Kamal da phull chikkarr (mudd/pond) vich uggda par kadee gandaa nai hunda" it doesnt really matter da kind of environment we're growin up in...wat matters is, ke assi apne sabheyachaar nu chette rakheya hai ke nai..do we knw our roots or not??

APNE VICHAAR JAROOR SANJHI KAREYO JI!

DO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS/CONCERNS, PLEASE!

Bhull Chukk Maaf!

agree

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SSA JI

Again i was jst lookin through threads/posts, i saw this thread titled "Singh is King" and many of you replied very hatefully towards da media..as if its all these bollywood ppl's fault...well..ya i agree they shudnt b comin up wid such movies but think about it...i blv dat it all depends on one's thinking..saadi soch te depend karda ke assin oh bollywood waleya de tareeke nu app-naunde aan ja thukraunde haan.. it all depends on us as individuals, ke do we want to adapt to what da media wants us to adapt to? It all depends on us, if we, sikhs, want to look or give ourselves da image dat da media presents sikhs as. Forget about what da world (non-sikhs) would think of us..forget about what kind of image they would or they hold in their heads...i think we should all think/worry bout our own ppl first, and give them da knowledege of a true sikh, of what being a sikh really means.

In a same way, as most of us are out here...far away from our homeland..Panjab. We see lots of sikhs/desi ppl adapting to da western culture...why?? Oh saadi rees nai karde taan saade lokki ohna pishey kion ghumde ne? ohna da culture kion appnaunde ne? who are we to blame? u think we should all together blame the westerns?? i dnt think so. Saade apneya di hee ghallti hai...its our own ppl who are being moderns. We shouldnt b blaming anyone for what our sikh youth is involved in...its well said ke "Kamal da phull chikkarr (mudd/pond) vich uggda par kadee gandaa nai hunda" it doesnt really matter da kind of environment we're growin up in...wat matters is, ke assi apne sabheyachaar nu chette rakheya hai ke nai..do we knw our roots or not??

APNE VICHAAR JAROOR SANJHI KAREYO JI!

DO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS/CONCERNS, PLEASE!

Bhull Chukk Maaf!

I totally understand what everyone is trying to say. Bollywood is indeed a big problem but I gotta say, it's not the ONLY problem. It's only in our way because we allow it to be. If we were all kesdhari's (at least) , wearing correct clothing, doing paath etc. then Bollywood would have no case. How can they take the mick out of people, if the people they portray are actually nothing like this? The problem is, most Sikhs I saw in Punjab when I went in October ARE how they're protrayed in the fims. Most believe in caste, go gurudwara once a month (my village gurudwara was always empty except for special occasions) and are more bothered about drink, meat and bhangra then anything else. I went to a wedding, and instead of people going to the Gurudwara, only about 20 people from each side went - whilst the rest were sat getting entertained at the hall! Punjab is getting worst and worst in my opinion and the Western Sikhs are actually getting better. I travelled all over Punjab and I didn't see half the amount of Girls I expected wearing a dastaar.

Men are cutting their hair by the day and kids who keep kes are starting to get bullied (including my 5 year old cousin.) This is why next time we go, we're going to do seva in the form of parchaar, it doesn't matter how long it takes. Things like 'how to tie dastaar' days, sikh history lessons, santhiyaa etc. are all very important but majority of the SIkhs today are too busy worrying about Politics and Khalistan then anything else.

IF we can do parchaar and be and inspiration for the youth, THEN we can have a leg to stand on when aguing with the media and other representatives out to change/take the mick out of sikhs.

I hope I made sense, I know I went on for a bit.

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Bhul Chukk Maaf

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