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6 minutes ago, Guest Golden said:

Whether you give a toss or not is not important! What’s important is whether he gives a toss about who you are. As far as he is concerned he doesn’t even know if you exist, whereas, no one in the Sikh world can say the same about him. Every Sikh has heard of his name and knows who he is lol!! Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? Why are you so bitter towards everyone? Has life treated you very badly or what? Why do you hate people and bear grudges towards them without any reason or cause? You are simply toxic and the knowledge you have acquired is not yours. It is all stollen from others. All you have just done is read what others have expressed or researched and published in their books or journals!! Why be so condescending towards others? People can sense your  lonely and empty life from the content of your posts. You must be leading a very sad life.

Haumai much?

I'm not sure infamous traitor is much of a claim to fame. Is it traitor or just enemy to the Paanth and humanity? 

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On 10/31/2020 at 8:47 PM, GurjantGnostic said:

Is someone's lineage important, if they're known as a criminal?

It’s important because it’s their very lineage that lead people to behave in the way they do. You are a good example. Judging from your posts one can easily construe that you don’t come from a lineage of boffins, because of your usage of the English language which is full of monosyllables, which I think can become rather boring! Are you a very boring individual? Perhaps your ancestors were not very clever when it came to forming sentences or engaging in somewhat intellectual conversations! You haven’t achieved any reasonable level of mental developmental yet to engage in any intellectual discussions or debates  How old are you?

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31 minutes ago, Guest Golden said:

It’s important because it’s their very lineage that lead people to behave in the way they do. You are a good example. Judging from your posts one can easily construe that you don’t come from a lineage of boffins, because of your usage of the English language which is full of monosyllables, which I think can become rather boring! Are you a very boring individual? Perhaps your ancestors were not very clever when it came to forming sentences or engaging in somewhat intellectual conversations! You haven’t achieved any reasonable level of mental developmental yet to engage in any intellectual discussions or debates  How old are you?

What does Gurbani say about lineage?

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On 11/2/2020 at 11:03 PM, Guest Golden said:

As far as he is concerned he doesn’t even know if you exist, whereas, no one in the Sikh world can say the same about him. Every Sikh has heard of his name and knows who he is lol!!

Yeah, everyone knows who Hitler is too, that doesn't mean it equates to some sort of greatness. I guess what you are saying is important to those who value fame - I'm not one of this type myself. 

Plus what has as all this got to do with DG?  

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On 11/2/2020 at 11:20 PM, Guest Golden said:

It’s important because it’s their very lineage that lead people to behave in the way they do. You are a good example. Judging from your posts one can easily construe that you don’t come from a lineage of boffins, because of your usage of the English language which is full of monosyllables, which I think can become rather boring! Are you a very boring individual? Perhaps your ancestors were not very clever when it came to forming sentences or engaging in somewhat intellectual conversations! You haven’t achieved any reasonable level of mental developmental yet to engage in any intellectual discussions or debates  How old are you?

So hang on, if you're correct Guru Nanak maharaj's sons would have gone the same way as them (which they didn't) and there would be no Dhirmal, or Ram Rai.

Is this how 'complex' and well thought out your arguments are? 

Is the captain your chacha or something?    

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On 10/12/2020 at 4:54 AM, dallysingh101 said:

Not that caste is a central feature of people behaving in this way, but all the Nijhers I've met haven't been chamars? 

No its a phenomenon in panjab. That low caste ppl adopt high caste last names. 

So now its a thing in jatt circles to say this name has been totally corrupted or ur guyss last name has been totally converted to low caste or nowadays one cant tell the caste cuz anyone will take any name etc

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7 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

No its a phenomenon in panjab. That low caste ppl adopt high caste last names. 

So now its a thing in jatt circles to say this name has been totally corrupted or ur guyss last name has been totally converted to low caste or nowadays one cant tell the caste cuz anyone will take any name etc

This 'thing' has been around for decades. I remember someone saying the same thing about murderer KPS Gill (and others) decades ago. Although the name changing thing might be a reality, 'besmirching' someone like this is also a ploy by certain 'proud' casteist people to deflect from the reality that some of their own have been up to dastardly, shameful deeds. 

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Guest Nijjar Ramgarhia

Sardar Bishan Singh Ramgarhia was from the Nijjar clan.

Many Tharkhans are in fact Jatt by tribal ancestry with surnames such as Nijjher, Gill, Sahota, Sandhu etc.

But many more people classed as Jatt are in fact of non-Jatt tribal ancestry but simply classed as such via assimilation.

So plenty of Chamar-ancestry Sodhi's and plenty of Khatri-ancestry Uppals as examples have assimilated into the Jatt biraderi.

Even though around 21% of the Punjab population was classed as Jatt in 2011 (or say 40% of Sikhs in Punjab) by ancestry the fact remains that 80% of Jatts are Muslims like Bajwa the present leader of the Pakistani Army and a high percentage of Mirpuri groomers and Hindu's like Sajjan Kumar and other famous genocidal Jatt killers famous for murdering Sikhs in Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs (1947) and Delhi (1984). So it's confusing that Jatt and Tharkhan and Chamar circles and segregation and apartheid pathetically exist when Muslim Jatts and Muslim Brahmin groomers and terrorists all despise and hate all Sikhs without worrying about our various ancestries.

 

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On 11/6/2020 at 9:25 PM, Guest GuruManeyo AdiGranth said:

But how do you explain the fact that Guru Gobind Singh Ji would hardly advertise their supposed lineage as you claim given that they dedicated that they dedicated their whole life to attacking the very concept of lineage via Kul Nash.

Mata Gujjar Kaur themselves were of Gujjar ancestry proving that Dasmesh Pita had no singular ancestry of the sort claimed by Muslims and Hindu's proud of their caste by marrying their cousins and who stood to benefit from Bachitar Natak etc.

If you look at DG from a wider perspective, you might see it differently. You have to avoid literalism. 

If Guru ji were of this ancestry (that's if you take the narrative in literal terms), it just underscores their lifelong commitment and message - so if someone purportedly from this (in Indic terms) 'great lineage' could take amrit and make themselves accountable to the sangat - it sort of knocks the bottom out of anyone else clinging onto their caste baggage claiming some sort of superiority.  

Plus it does serve to instruct us, because as humans it acknowledges familial past, but also, how Guru ji changed it all by introducing Singh as a common surname and then breaking all caste conventions with making people drink out of a common bataa, shows us exactly what they felt about this.

A big part of DG (most conspicuous in CP) is all about narratives, adapting them, subverting them, playing with them. You can't start looking at Bachitar Natak with abrahamic style mindset.    

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

If you look at DG from a wider perspective, you might see it differently. You have to avoid literalism. 

If Guru ji were of this ancestry (that's if you take the narrative in literal terms), it just underscores their lifelong commitment and message - so if someone purportedly from this (in Indic terms) 'great lineage' could take amrit and make themselves accountable to the sangat - it sort of knocks the bottom out of anyone else clinging onto their caste baggage claiming some sort of superiority.  

Plus it does serve to instruct us, because as humans it acknowledges familial past, but also, how Guru ji changed it all by introducing Singh as a common surname and then breaking all caste conventions with making people drink out of a common bataa, shows us exactly what they felt about this.

A big part of DG (most conspicuous in CP) is all about narratives, adapting them, subverting them, playing with them. You can't start looking at Bachitar Natak with abrahamic style mindset.    

You can’t reason with those with limited knowledge or one track minds! They just want to believe their own interpretations of things, that means everything. Majority of visitors on this forum are not that intelligent to appreciate finer writings, they are beyond their grasp. I haven’t met even one person that can interpret the Dasam Banies properly let alone the whole granth! They don’t know the significance and have Abrahamic tendencies! Most forum members here are Moslems anyways. You can see how they love discussing their religion, even if most of what they mention is anti-gurmat.

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