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Like in that vid. :@

I've done it a few time myself, as with the motions of the naam simran being said and the "sound" of it.

Can anyone give me more info, like that is it called, if theres a better term, etc...

thanks

Surinderjit Singh

There is a difference between you making the movement and the movement happening on its own.

Simply the act of movement does not create more 'Anand' it is what causes the body to move is when you surrender your body and mind to the beat of the Music/Sound/Vibrations/Words.

But when movement does happen, get out of its way and allow it to happen and the truth of the matter is when it does happen on its own, you won't be able to stop it. You'd become an observer to the movement not the creator of it.

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

If someone is enjoying doing naam/simran it doesnt matter how or if they are expressing them self, just let them enjoy. But on the other hand if it becomes nothing more than a habit then it could become a method in which you could lose concetration.

Fateh ji

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Like in that vid. :@

I've done it a few time myself, as with the motions of the naam simran being said and the "sound" of it.

Can anyone give me more info, like that is it called, if theres a better term, etc...

thanks

Surinderjit Singh

There is a difference between you making the movement and the movement happening on its own.

Simply the act of movement does not create more 'Anand' it is what causes the body to move is when you surrender your body and mind to the beat of the Music/Sound/Vibrations/Words.

But when movement does happen, get out of its way and allow it to happen and the truth of the matter is when it does happen on its own, you won't be able to stop it. You'd become an observer to the movement not the creator of it.

good reply.

Sometimes it does happen by itself, other times its your body moving in rythm with the beat/music, and at other times its pure pakhand.

Either way, you would assume that the 'anand' which causes bodily movement is not somehow connected with the beat of the tabla. Unfortunetly for many of us it is ... the moment the fast table and fast vaheguru vaheguru stops, the heads also stop swinging and people return to their normal seated position, in a calm and collected manner .. until the next round of fast table that is!! Is this anand? or is it something else?

if maharajh says that sitting like a crane in water, or with your eyes closed etc is a pakhand if there is nothing inside, then equally jumping around and swinging your head is equally a pakhand if there is nothing going on inside.

In sri dasam granth maharajh describes how a bhagat should focus his dhiaan on vaheguru just like a hunter focuses on his prey. Once he has his target in sight of his arrow, no noise, no wind, no smell, no movement or anything will shift his attention, his whole being and mind is focused on the prey and the prey alone. But for fools like us, we sit eyes closed but they pop open every time a door opens or someone walks past us, and for the body poppers they snap out of their anand as soon as the tabla stops taking a beating or a kirtani that they dont 'like' starts doing kirtan.

How far are we from true samadhi!!

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I came across this video; I would request that people please reply with sensible answers, what does the Sangath feel about this video? these actions? Is it any different from the AKJ Kirtan/venue/smagam?

It’s not a question about being right or wrong; the person in the video has reacted according to what emotion has built up within him.

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I came across this video; I would request that people please reply with sensible answers, what does the Sangath feel about this video? these actions? Is it any different from the AKJ Kirtan/venue/smagam?

It's not a question about being right or wrong; the person in the video has reacted according to what emotion has built up within him.

WHY make a post liek that when YOU KNOW that akj kirtan darbas/rainsbhais are not like that? that video is just plain stupid, why even compare?.

In kirtan darbars people slightly move when really enjoying the kirtan or when it comes to simran, or when the simran gets a bit speedy and loud, its not a bad thing.

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I came across this video; I would request that people please reply with sensible answers, what does the Sangath feel about this video? these actions? Is it any different from the AKJ Kirtan/venue/smagam?

It’s not a question about being right or wrong; the person in the video has reacted according to what emotion has built up within him.

is it any diiferent? oh yhh like i saw sum old man jumpin around da last time i went to a akj kirtan.

yes it is a question of right and wrong, that is wrong, dacning infront of mahraj like a clown is wrong, stupid post

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"is it any diiferent? oh yhh like i saw sum old man jumpin around da last time i went to a akj kirtan.

yes it is a question of right and wrong, that is wrong, dacning infront of mahraj like a clown is wrong, stupid post"

pajji/pennjji not being bad or anything but dass and parvar have been going to rainsbai kirtans around the UK for along time and never seen people jumping up and down if they have please give exact details lik rainsbai year etc. For sikhs who want to know why people "shake" durin kirtan this link should hpefully awnser your question maff karo sangat jio if i have offended anyone.

http://akj.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3674...5ec9baf3729a805 heres the link :@:)

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