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any puratan granth of sikh itehas which covers the itehas of banda bahadur including panth parkash by rattan singh bhangu claims banda bhadur was told not to marry ...

And about ragra and jhatka it can also in found in almost all historic granths ...

The question should be which historic text or granth existed before 1930s which goes against this belief ...

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Gurfateh

I'll put my hands up and say I'm thinking about changing my stance in regards to medicinal bhang. Thinking about it, the kurehit is not to take nasha, even medicines contain (chemical) alcohol but aren't nasha or kurehit right? Jassa ji when you say it doesn't have any effect on the mind, is it just that it doesn't make you go completely high, OR absolutely no nasha effect, the only result is a healing one? An honest question, if it is just a medicine, then why take do nihang singhs take it every day? There isn't a medicinal need in day to day life.

Interested to hear sangats thoughts.

Fateh

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any puratan granth of sikh itehas which covers the itehas of banda bahadur including panth parkash by rattan singh bhangu claims banda bhadur was told not to marry ...

Let's not forget that Bhangu's work is not free from errors and his work written 100 years after Baba Banda Singh is not very reliable when compared to contemporary and eye witness sources written in Persian. None of these sources claim that Baba Banda Singh ate jhatka or drank bhang or even established himself as Guru. Such stories spread later on around 1834 but no sources written before 1834 mention any of this. Descendents of Baba Banda Singh to this day follow Guru Granth Sahib and preach Sikhi. Marriage is part of Sikhi and it makes no sense Guru Sahib telling Baba Ji not to get married. My question to you is why is Bhangu's work reliable in this matter?

And about ragra and jhatka it can also in found in almost all historic granths ...

There is a big difference between Sikhs taking bhang and Guru Sahib Himself starting this practice. Which granth states that Guru Sahib started all of this? One has to be a fool to believe in Gian Singh for saying Guru Sahib took afeem and ate horses without any veechar on this subject. I have not come across any that explicitly states that Guru Sahib Himself drank bhang. Could it be that authors of such statements themselves took intoxicants and justified it by using the name of the Guru? Very well so. I am asking for names of the sources so that I can study this subject with some scrutiny. Saying “all” is too many and I assure you not all say what you are claiming.

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Using something medically or everyday just to function is completely opposite. The doctor gives you a period of time of which you are prescribed to take a drug. The doctor doesnt just say take vicodin when ever you want, and however you want.

For a body that doesnt have thc through it, then its effect would be more medically inducing but to people who just get high they arent using it as a medicine anyway. Therapy using bhang as a mild pain reliever etc is correct but once your healed then move on and stop using the plant.

Ganjah is a medicine that has been growing in the wild well before the petroleum bi-product asprin was ever invented, people that use asprin allday everyday are in the same book as bhangis. If they need medicine daily then they have a major chemical imbalance and any drug is the suspect of abuse whether it be legal and/or socially acceptable.

Now a daze people use it to get high, not to relieve an ailment etc. People do it to be kewl, do you take asprin for a headache to be kewl.(for one I havent had a headache for at least 7-8 years) Do your friends say yeah you got some icy-hot medical rub? or is just bhang enough to celebrate??? People get too attached to a plant instead of Naam, and you will definitely get mixed up with anything you cant control.

Are you one who cares more about your next time you get to use bhang, or one who begs to be a chela of Guru Gobind Singh Ji??? Trying to say bhang is part of history is just an excuse to use bhang while you give up your Sikhi. Trying to say I can because some people in Sikh history used it for therapy against cutt-off arms and legs, post tramatic stress disorder, etc is like cutting your wrists and slowly bleeding yourself to death.

Do you need bhang or do you want bhang?? I dont think many here can tell the difference from the two. and I also dont think anyone that will answer has ever been to a doctor of medicine with a conversation of medical pros/cons to know if the person should use an alternative medicine for their problem.

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bhangis should really understand what they are doing or not doing. Is a plant more important than being rehatvaan????

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Maybe people are better off drinking it rather than spitting moral venom everywhere they go. What applies to you, does not apply to me nor the billions of other existing right now, never again will there be another one like me, you or any individual of the billions out there, celebrate your time here. The body, mind and emotion is the vehicle, Rehit is the fully loaded package and GuruJi is the Satnav…your rides been pimped out enjoy the journey of life and stop wrangling over nonsense.

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I think some people are getting it twisted. No one is saying "take bhang" instead some are simply saying "yes, SOME of our nihung ancestors took bhang."

Why people get their knckers in a twist is beyond me. Bhang taking in the late 1700s is widely mentioned by European sources. This doesn't excuse getting high today.

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